Skoda Octavia 4x4 Turbo (OK and the vRS)
18 April 2003, 07:30 PM
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hey MBC, don't you go laughing.
Have a look at http://www.madfavorit.co.uk
Given the money, time, and workshop, my Favorit wouldn't be for sale, it would be turned into this, and used to rattle Scoobs when they least expect it.
Have a look at http://www.madfavorit.co.uk
Given the money, time, and workshop, my Favorit wouldn't be for sale, it would be turned into this, and used to rattle Scoobs when they least expect it.
23 April 2003, 10:26 AM
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That was why I like the classic Saab thrtead before.
I love Scoobs, and while I could probably raise the cash to buy an older ropey one, I couldn't afford to insure or maintain it properly.
Likewise the Octavia vRS (had a test drive, beautiful), but too pricey new, and holding prices used. I've always loved Skodas, but the new ones are out of my league (brother is recent convert, having bought an ex taxi Octavia TDi with 180k on the clock from a snatchback, for £2500, not bad for a 3 year old car with SH upto 130k, he's planning to bring the history back upto date).
So when it came to time to replace the Favorit with something a little beefier, and with an Octavia vRS, or a Fabia GT out of the picture, I had to look for something older, cheaper, another misunderstood brand, but with the same power/specs as the vRS.
Conculsion was a classic Saab 900 T16 Aero. Managed to find a '84 with just 118k on the clock, and service history upto 108k, only 3 owners from new, but the current owner had it as a second car, and couldn't get a reasonable quote for isnurance so had to sell, before the MOT ran out. Got it for £325, needed a new set of tyres, some work on the handbrake, and new front number plate for MOT.
Beautiful drive, some creaks, some wear on 1st and 2nd synchro, and some breaks/flaking in the laquer, and a couple of small rust bubbles on the wheel arches, but it is great for a near 20 year old car.
Can't be many cars you can find, with 175bhp, and 0-60 in arround 7 seconds, for under £700 all in and legal, that will hold 4 people, and should keep going for atleast another 70-90k before any serious work is needed.
I love Scoobs, and while I could probably raise the cash to buy an older ropey one, I couldn't afford to insure or maintain it properly.
Likewise the Octavia vRS (had a test drive, beautiful), but too pricey new, and holding prices used. I've always loved Skodas, but the new ones are out of my league (brother is recent convert, having bought an ex taxi Octavia TDi with 180k on the clock from a snatchback, for £2500, not bad for a 3 year old car with SH upto 130k, he's planning to bring the history back upto date).
So when it came to time to replace the Favorit with something a little beefier, and with an Octavia vRS, or a Fabia GT out of the picture, I had to look for something older, cheaper, another misunderstood brand, but with the same power/specs as the vRS.
Conculsion was a classic Saab 900 T16 Aero. Managed to find a '84 with just 118k on the clock, and service history upto 108k, only 3 owners from new, but the current owner had it as a second car, and couldn't get a reasonable quote for isnurance so had to sell, before the MOT ran out. Got it for £325, needed a new set of tyres, some work on the handbrake, and new front number plate for MOT.
Beautiful drive, some creaks, some wear on 1st and 2nd synchro, and some breaks/flaking in the laquer, and a couple of small rust bubbles on the wheel arches, but it is great for a near 20 year old car.
Can't be many cars you can find, with 175bhp, and 0-60 in arround 7 seconds, for under £700 all in and legal, that will hold 4 people, and should keep going for atleast another 70-90k before any serious work is needed.
23 April 2003, 11:28 AM
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There's a lot to be said for buying an older solid car that's been very well looked after.
I've thought a few times in the past about going for an original 92 Legacy Turbo estate as a second family (and dog) car for around the £1500 mark because I once had one and it was massively under-rated.
But parts prices even through breakers can be pretty horrendous so I guess that now I've gone for the modern day equivalent with the Octavia 4x4 estate (plus more power).
With the Saab you do have much more choice / avenues to parts because the build was so good when they first came out, and Saab did attract more 'sensible' (not old!) owners who looked after them. And... excellent seats !
I've thought a few times in the past about going for an original 92 Legacy Turbo estate as a second family (and dog) car for around the £1500 mark because I once had one and it was massively under-rated.
But parts prices even through breakers can be pretty horrendous so I guess that now I've gone for the modern day equivalent with the Octavia 4x4 estate (plus more power).
With the Saab you do have much more choice / avenues to parts because the build was so good when they first came out, and Saab did attract more 'sensible' (not old!) owners who looked after them. And... excellent seats !
23 April 2003, 11:46 AM
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Yep. Did actually consider a Legacy, rather than a Scoob (if I could have a found a decent (older) saloon), or one of the older Mitsu Galant Turbos that can be found for a few hundred quid when they come up. But thing is they tend to be "The ram raiders choice", or so I heard, which tends to load the insurance abit.
Yep, you are so right about the seats. 20 years on, and really comfy and supportive (although a little worn in places, and one *** burn). Shame they are burgundy velour, instead of tan or black leather. Maybe upgrade the whole interior one day, although while the burgundy seats/door cards/carpet are common, I've been told having a burgundy kick panels(carpetted) and burgundy dash is quite rare. So I may keep it. now if I could find Burgundy leather seats, and keep the rest, that would clinch it.
And yep, Saabs tended to be bought by fast doctors, judges, lawyers, rather than office workers, factory workers, and sportsmen. Not saying there is any thing wrong with the others but insurance companies seem to think the first group are "respectable" occupations. I've noticed from some of the Saab boards I'm on, IT workers tend to be as Saab owning group as well.
BTW, you don't want to know what sort of people traditionally own Skodas, and no it isn't flat cap wearing old men, quite the opposite. The south coast mob practiced skoda skiing, towing a poor unfortunate on a mono ski accross the campsite at the last OC national camp. One of the Favorit owners posted the fastest lap time at Curborough sprint circuit. Some of his competition on the day were two Scoobs, an Elise, a TT coupe, and an Octavia RS. this isn't a standard Fav BTW, it is a stage rally prepped, heavily tuned one, but it was running forest height suspension that day.
have a look at http://www.skoda-owners-club.co.uk and click on Special events for photos from that day. The green bumpered Favorit is absolutley mental.
Yep, you are so right about the seats. 20 years on, and really comfy and supportive (although a little worn in places, and one *** burn). Shame they are burgundy velour, instead of tan or black leather. Maybe upgrade the whole interior one day, although while the burgundy seats/door cards/carpet are common, I've been told having a burgundy kick panels(carpetted) and burgundy dash is quite rare. So I may keep it. now if I could find Burgundy leather seats, and keep the rest, that would clinch it.
And yep, Saabs tended to be bought by fast doctors, judges, lawyers, rather than office workers, factory workers, and sportsmen. Not saying there is any thing wrong with the others but insurance companies seem to think the first group are "respectable" occupations. I've noticed from some of the Saab boards I'm on, IT workers tend to be as Saab owning group as well.
BTW, you don't want to know what sort of people traditionally own Skodas, and no it isn't flat cap wearing old men, quite the opposite. The south coast mob practiced skoda skiing, towing a poor unfortunate on a mono ski accross the campsite at the last OC national camp. One of the Favorit owners posted the fastest lap time at Curborough sprint circuit. Some of his competition on the day were two Scoobs, an Elise, a TT coupe, and an Octavia RS. this isn't a standard Fav BTW, it is a stage rally prepped, heavily tuned one, but it was running forest height suspension that day.
have a look at http://www.skoda-owners-club.co.uk and click on Special events for photos from that day. The green bumpered Favorit is absolutley mental.
14 May 2003, 04:32 PM
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By the way, Skoda are doing 0% over 3 years at the moment
What you save on interest you can spend on a remap and brake/ suspension upgrade (See the group buys on Briskoda.net)
What you save on interest you can spend on a remap and brake/ suspension upgrade (See the group buys on Briskoda.net)
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I would love to get in on that, but keeping the Saab rolling is expensive. but now I've bought it, It stays.
my Bucket Seated Favorit is off to York for a new life of Saloon trialising with a Skoda Nutter who I owed a Favor to, when I needed a set of Alloys and a Carb, he dug me them out of his Garage, and donated them to the cause. So now he is in need, and getting helped out.
Adn to add to the fun, we won't be a Skodaless family, because the missus has just agreed a £2k trade in value for her R plate 1.2 Corsa against a 3 year old 1.4 Fabia. Top buggery I say.
my Bucket Seated Favorit is off to York for a new life of Saloon trialising with a Skoda Nutter who I owed a Favor to, when I needed a set of Alloys and a Carb, he dug me them out of his Garage, and donated them to the cause. So now he is in need, and getting helped out.
Adn to add to the fun, we won't be a Skodaless family, because the missus has just agreed a £2k trade in value for her R plate 1.2 Corsa against a 3 year old 1.4 Fabia. Top buggery I say.
03 June 2003, 05:00 PM
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It would be exactley the same as getting a 4 pot Turbo Golf, or an Audi TT there, and probabley need as much work.
Any reputable VW/Audi Tuner will do the job, and if they turn up their nose at the Skoda badge, instead of taking your money, would you really have wanted them to do it in the first place?
Any reputable VW/Audi Tuner will do the job, and if they turn up their nose at the Skoda badge, instead of taking your money, would you really have wanted them to do it in the first place?
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03 June 2003, 08:06 PM
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Sly Fox,
I gather it can be done
Most I've seen is a conversion which meets TUV standards (noise, emissions, longevity etc) at 420.
Above 280 traction can become an issue on the RS
I gather it can be done
Most I've seen is a conversion which meets TUV standards (noise, emissions, longevity etc) at 420.
Above 280 traction can become an issue on the RS
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