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Old Mar 28, 2003 | 05:25 PM
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i think 12-13k
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Old Mar 28, 2003 | 06:08 PM
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The challenge is on!



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Old Mar 28, 2003 | 06:28 PM
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Or just look at tomshardware for the marks
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Old Mar 28, 2003 | 07:49 PM
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Those figures always seem to be overinflated somewhat...

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Old Mar 28, 2003 | 08:12 PM
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My machine

Xp2200, 512mg crucial xms3500, asus mobo, saphire 9700 pro gets 14,500 on real 3d marks and 4992 3dmark 03, scored 11,000 with a 4200ti

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Old Mar 28, 2003 | 09:50 PM
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I haven't bothered publishing them, but I get just a hair under 19k in 3dm2k1 with defaults in the program, but I play at 1280x1024x32 4xAA and 15xAF
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Old Mar 29, 2003 | 02:38 PM
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world records 21/22k so your not far off nick

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Old Mar 29, 2003 | 04:29 PM
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I am not interested in records based on machines that are overclocked to the absolute limit, dropped in liquid nitrogen etc. Mine does that 24/7 so I am perfectly happy.
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Old Mar 31, 2003 | 06:53 PM
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Xp2200, 512mg crucial xms3500, asus mobo, saphire 9700 pro gets 14,500 on real 3d marks and 4992 3dmark 03, scored 11,000 with a 4200ti
14.5k seems a bit high for that spec. Have you overclocked it or set the drivers to performance?

I get 13,800 on default settings since I OC'd my XP2400+ with Crucial 9700Pro.
Since I put a Thermalright Heatsink & quiet 80mm fan on it,It runs 24/7 at 2.33Ghz (14 x 166) at a temp of 30c

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nothing overclocked daz, cooler is an slk800 temps are 42oC full load but there are 5 fans in there

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Old Mar 31, 2003 | 08:46 PM
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I have the same cooler. Well impressed with it. It has turned my XP2400 into an XP2900
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Old Mar 31, 2003 | 10:01 PM
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I use Globalwin CAK4-88T heatsinks when overclocking 2400's or 2600's. Gets almost all of them like Daz's chip up XP2930+ levels (2430mhx if memory serves). Run warmer than the big thermalrights, but in most cases a dam sight quieter.
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Old Apr 1, 2003 | 08:57 AM
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Run warmer than the big thermalrights, but in most cases a dam sight quieter
I have checked the specs on the Globalwin & it makes more noise than mine! My single speed fan pushes over 45cfm but only makes 34db of noise & being 80mm in size, doesn't make that irritating whine that smaller fans make.

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Old Apr 1, 2003 | 09:00 AM
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If you are using a decent quite fan then quiet possibly, but the Globalwin ones are actually quieter than the specs make out. Most people invest in SLK-800's and stick on loud, high cfm fans in an attempt to overclock every last few mhz out of their cpu, as I am sure you are aware m8.
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Old Apr 1, 2003 | 10:20 AM
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I know what you are saying but I am happy with the overclock I have now. My temps are now cpu 27c & mobo 24c. Fantastic cooler!!
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nice quiet one on the cpu 20db ys tech one others get turned on once system is doing anything other than surfing or downloading

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Old Apr 5, 2003 | 01:20 PM
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Some of you will be interested to hear that I've since had to cancel my order with Alienware.

They certainly talk the talk, but they failed to walk the walk - after the umpteenth failed promise, I totally lost all trust in them - the last straw was when I CATEGORICALLY told them NOT to charge my card until they would confirm both order and delivery date. I was disgusted to find out my card had been charged over £2000.00 as soon as I put the phone down to them - despite a 3 week lead time!

Call after call, they broke so many promises I have since gone to another company, www.kustompcs.co.uk.
Oh my, what a refreshing change it is to speak with someone who:

1) Takes pride in his job
2) Understand the product he sells (I asked Alienware why the Audigy sound card was better than the Live to which she replied "It's better for games" - "Why?" I asked - "It just is." I MEAN WTF!?
3) Lived up to every single promise they made.
4) Offered to provide services beyond the call of duty.
5) Stopped me from buying components which they claim would be a waste of money.

They even told me to send my existing components to them so they would fit them for free! How cool is that?

Rock and roll for Kustom PC's and a big thumbs down for Alienware!

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Old Apr 5, 2003 | 01:30 PM
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What spec have you choosen in the end.

Bought a bit of my Kit from them too. Prompt with delivery

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Old Apr 5, 2003 | 02:02 PM
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Hi Si,

Asus P4T533-R (P4 Socket 478, PC4200 RIMM)
Intel Pentium 4 3060 Retail 512k (478) 533 HT
Zalman Silent 'Flower Cooler' P4 Cu
DIGN HTPC Case Black
512mb PC4200 32bit RIMM Samsung
512mb PC4200 32bit RIMM Samsung
UDMA100 120Gb 7200rpm WD Caviar SE 8mb cache
16x40x DVD-ROM Pioneer IDE Slot Black
ATI Radeon 9700 Pro 128mb (Connect3d)
ZM-80-HP Silent Video Card Heatsink
Creative SoundBlaster Audigy2 Player Retail
ATX PSU 400w Silent Zalman
Windows XP Professional OEM
System Build and Test

Removed prices to protect the innocent
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Old Apr 5, 2003 | 02:15 PM
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Nice Zalman is quite and looks quite smart. had one before.

Nice fast stock system, i was put off rimm because it wont be much use in 6 months time. I stuck with DDR400. I reckon 13-14k with rimm

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Old Apr 5, 2003 | 02:31 PM
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Not completely unrelated, but I have just had the photographer from Futurenet finish 4 hours worth of shooting my rig in detail and me in detail for the Pc Pro article that is being done on her. Bloody amazing what a decent photographer can do. Just a shame that I have to spend 4 hours in darkness on such a beautiful day.
Still chuckling over the fact that they are going to all of this trouble for a Pooter!LOL
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Old Apr 5, 2003 | 05:02 PM
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Let us know which article to buy
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Old Apr 5, 2003 | 05:04 PM
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Let us know which article to buy
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Old Apr 6, 2003 | 03:12 PM
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lol Whens it off in Nick??

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Old Apr 6, 2003 | 03:17 PM
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I am doing the spec and modification write up for them atm. I dunno which issue this is going into yet.
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Old Apr 6, 2003 | 03:37 PM
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Did you master the ATX conditioner in the end?

My b@st@rd condenser has given up. Still waiting on chip-con response. Majorly pi55ed off with the time its taking

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Old Apr 6, 2003 | 03:40 PM
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Yeah, I got the conditioner working perfectly.
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Old Apr 6, 2003 | 03:52 PM
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Kustom PC's are the boys, should know I stay just round the corner from em

You wont have any probs with those lads BD

GL with your new PC m8.
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Old Apr 10, 2003 | 03:04 PM
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Just got an email from the fab boys at Kustom PC's (what great folk).
They have just got a 3D Mark score on my set up - 15,900 points.

Im pretty chuffed with that, now they're gonna overclock it - let's see where that takes us

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Old Apr 10, 2003 | 03:14 PM
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HT or not?
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