Notices
Drivetrain Gearbox, Diffs & Driveshafts etc

porting exhaust manifold

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old 05 February 2003, 11:28 PM
  #31  
Bob Rawle
Ecu Specialist
 
Bob Rawle's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 1999
Location: Swindon
Posts: 3,938
Likes: 0
Received 1 Like on 1 Post
Post

ok guys pics will be mailed out tomorrow evening, problems cleared up by then.

thanks

bob
Old 05 February 2003, 11:54 PM
  #32  
pat
Scooby Regular
 
pat's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 1999
Posts: 679
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Post

As Floyd has already pointed out, the main improvement from porting the headers is that it makes the manifold entry larger than the exhaust port exit. This creates a "lip" between the collector and the head, which will present a flow restriction from the collector into the head. The exit from the head is the same diameter as the collector hole, but the stud holes are larger than the studs; this allows asymmetric expansion of the collector with respect to the head, but it also means that one can "misalign" the collector onto the head, thus creating a "lip" from the head to the collector; with the collector ported, it becomes impossible to get such a lip in the normal flow direction.

Another result of porting the headers is a reduction in cabin noise. The reduction in turbulence will increase gas velocity, reducing pressure and thus also noise. It's an old trick, I ported mine a few years ago and reported the effects at the time; closely thereafter Mark, Bob and Branko ported their collectors with similar effects observed It won't magically transform the car into a fire breathing monster, but it does improve flow, I remember having to add a few percent more fuel to comensate. Bang for buck it's remarkably good Not a patch on a good set of headers though... one set needed about 25% extra fuel!

Cheers,

Pat.
Old 06 February 2003, 02:21 AM
  #33  
Nathan L
Scooby Regular
 
Nathan L's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2001
Posts: 5,502
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Post

Pat Cheers for that, makes it easy to understand.

Is getting the standard manifold off a DIY job or is it a pain in the **** ?
Old 07 February 2003, 10:40 PM
  #34  
Floyd
Scooby Regular
iTrader: (9)
 
Floyd's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2000
Posts: 5,470
Received 9 Likes on 5 Posts
Thumbs up

Nathan

I've done a couple now and soon to do another so I've a little experience. It really depends on the mileage of the car and the sort of treatment it's had. If it's had a hard life then there's a good chance that the heat shields will be rusted on solid. That will be your main problem so you'll need a good soak in WD40 for those bolts the night before.

It is possible to re-use the head gaskets if you remember which way they came off too. If you decide to port the intermediate joins then I'd advise new gaskets there.

Pat has a good point regarding the possible mis-match due to stud alignment.

F
Old 07 February 2003, 11:28 PM
  #35  
harvey
Former Sponsor
iTrader: (48)
 
harvey's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2001
Location: Darlington
Posts: 10,419
Likes: 0
Received 1 Like on 1 Post
Post

Hi Richard: What headers are you running?
Old 07 February 2003, 11:35 PM
  #36  
ScoobyWhite
Scooby Regular
 
ScoobyWhite's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2002
Posts: 386
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Cool

Mr. Bob Could you please send to me by mail your fotos too......

Thanks
Old 02 March 2003, 07:34 PM
  #37  
hades
Scooby Regular
 
hades's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2002
Location: From Kent to Gloucestershire to Berkshire
Posts: 2,905
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Talking

Effectively, the manifold is actually smaller than the outlet in the cylinder head, so you get a square lip which doesn't help flow. There are a few other minor issues in the mainfold, but I believe that is the biggest thing.

Scoobysport will port and fit headers for you too, although IIRC they charge more for that than David was talking.

Noise wise? It is unequal length headers that gives the characteristic burble, you lose it with equal length headers. Smoothing the flow doesn't alter the lengths.

IMHO, porting did make the burble a little less deep / boomy / resonant on my car, although it did release a little more "snarl" at higher revs and throttles. The noise suited me by seeming quieter when cruising, still sounding great when you floor it point of view.

Edit to add re: power gain. My MY02 gave very little more bhp peak power but a much wider power spread than very similar spec cars, and significantly more torque - about 10-15lbft through the 2000-3500 range. Therefore, I'd say IMHO well worthwhile difference in the real world, although it doesn't help much with figures to bandy around the pub

[Edited by hades - 2/3/2003 7:40:59 PM]
Related Topics
Thread
Thread Starter
Forum
Replies
Last Post
KAS35RSTI
Subaru
27
04 November 2021 07:12 PM
fatboy_coach
General Technical
15
18 June 2016 03:48 PM
Mattybr5@MB Developments
Full Cars Breaking For Spares
28
28 December 2015 11:07 PM
FuZzBoM
Wheels, Tyres & Brakes
16
04 October 2015 09:49 PM
Ganz1983
Subaru
5
02 October 2015 09:22 AM



Quick Reply: porting exhaust manifold



All times are GMT +1. The time now is 09:58 AM.