Lost weight - now need to build muscle
are any of you "heavy" boys in your 30's?
i only wonder as i did the whole steroid, protein, mirror thing for years but by my mid 20's i couldnt be arsed!
im now approaching 30 and would rather go to my expensive gym where the weights are plastic and the floor has carpet, then go home and eat crisp!
t
ps- can still get a low 6 min time for 2000m on an ergo...i just do it with 25% more bodyfat now
i only wonder as i did the whole steroid, protein, mirror thing for years but by my mid 20's i couldnt be arsed!
im now approaching 30 and would rather go to my expensive gym where the weights are plastic and the floor has carpet, then go home and eat crisp!
t
ps- can still get a low 6 min time for 2000m on an ergo...i just do it with 25% more bodyfat now
I'm 30 in a couple of months but still weigh the same as I did when I was 22.
I'd say I'm fitter now than I ever was cos I realise that getting wankered every night and eating **** will do me in, unlike 5 yrs ago when I didn't care but still trained.
Plus, having 2 wks off at xmas made me realise how easy it is to put the lard on - 6lbs in 14 days!
Took me 3 wks of very hard labour to shift 4lbs.
I'd say I'm fitter now than I ever was cos I realise that getting wankered every night and eating **** will do me in, unlike 5 yrs ago when I didn't care but still trained.
Plus, having 2 wks off at xmas made me realise how easy it is to put the lard on - 6lbs in 14 days!
Took me 3 wks of very hard labour to shift 4lbs.
id say im the biggest ive being in the last 2 years. Stil only a wee 13.8 but never give up.
In reply to pslewis, id never pay £98 a month, sounds like its a posers gym. Ie office types trying to make them selves look good. Sounds like a gym i went to 2 years ago. your only a number to them, least where i am we know them persoanlly.
Si
In reply to pslewis, id never pay £98 a month, sounds like its a posers gym. Ie office types trying to make them selves look good. Sounds like a gym i went to 2 years ago. your only a number to them, least where i am we know them persoanlly.
Si
And in answer to my good friend Katana's earlier question;
Training to failure is in my opinion and experience the biggest single difference between making the reflection in the mirror change or not.
Forced reps, strip sets, even negatives on occasion. Of course you need a partner to be able to do these effectively, but it is undoubtedly extremely effective.
Try a strip set on the squat racks and you'll never forget it. I once did 8 reps on 140kg, then 8 reps on 130, 120 etc right down to 60kg. Couldn't walk properly for a week but my legs gained about 1/2 inch that month...
Training to failure is in my opinion and experience the biggest single difference between making the reflection in the mirror change or not.
Forced reps, strip sets, even negatives on occasion. Of course you need a partner to be able to do these effectively, but it is undoubtedly extremely effective.
Try a strip set on the squat racks and you'll never forget it. I once did 8 reps on 140kg, then 8 reps on 130, 120 etc right down to 60kg. Couldn't walk properly for a week but my legs gained about 1/2 inch that month...
main thing to appreciate with this is..... its a highly motivational form of exercise,
When single was training 5 times a week , played football dropped from 22 stone to 17 and was built like a brick sh1th0use. CV was great
Got married had a family and it's all fell to pieces can only make the GYm 3 times a week if lucky, muscle strength their but shape is crap,
I have been at this lark for around 5 years, 2 years serious.
The previous exercise thing about lift then slow release , we have that stuff in our place a whole level on it but seem only the girlies use it "Nautilus" or something like that.
Muslce build is basically , correct balance of food and really hevey weight with low reps, but there are guys in my place
could give Arnie a run for his money but cannot run the lenght of the floor
Anyway just my input
jase
When single was training 5 times a week , played football dropped from 22 stone to 17 and was built like a brick sh1th0use. CV was great
Got married had a family and it's all fell to pieces can only make the GYm 3 times a week if lucky, muscle strength their but shape is crap,
I have been at this lark for around 5 years, 2 years serious.
The previous exercise thing about lift then slow release , we have that stuff in our place a whole level on it but seem only the girlies use it "Nautilus" or something like that.
Muslce build is basically , correct balance of food and really hevey weight with low reps, but there are guys in my place
could give Arnie a run for his money but cannot run the lenght of the floor
Anyway just my input
jase
Hehehe, don't forget Si, when you went off on your "bodybuilders are weak fairies", i mentioned my single rep best squat 192kg! Now that's heavy!! I think the most reps i ever did with 140 was 32. That also hurt!
Rather you then me in speedo's 
Bloke at gym regualry does over 200kg, thats scary seeing him doing that.
Did you just squat once a week? Only ive being told to do, but i feel i could do it twice, doesnt seem to hurt me that much tbh.
Si
[Edited by super_si - 1/29/2003 11:23:13 AM]

Bloke at gym regualry does over 200kg, thats scary seeing him doing that.
Did you just squat once a week? Only ive being told to do, but i feel i could do it twice, doesnt seem to hurt me that much tbh.
Si
[Edited by super_si - 1/29/2003 11:23:13 AM]
Yep, once a week. Re-read my post on your own previous thread, i think i made some points definitely worth keeping in mind.
One thing i didn't mention is the use of Tubigrip around the knees. Some people like it, others don't. I always used it and never had any problems with my knees (touch wood!).
A proper 200kg squat is very impressive. Probably less than 0.01% of the male population could do that i'd estimate. Even less on a "regular" basis...
One thing i didn't mention is the use of Tubigrip around the knees. Some people like it, others don't. I always used it and never had any problems with my knees (touch wood!).A proper 200kg squat is very impressive. Probably less than 0.01% of the male population could do that i'd estimate. Even less on a "regular" basis...
Guys - maybe you can help. I'm after a decent set of free weights for the gym at home (just converted the g/f's double garage). Can you recommend a decent make / supplier? She only has crap plastic ones at the mo.
Super_Si, I work in an office and train three times a week at my local Holiday Inn Health Club. I go to improve overall fitness and muscle tone but also for the stress relief it brings and the boost in self-confidence and well-being. I don't train so I have the muscle to lift a Transit van or the ability to run through brick walls. I like reading these threads as I find them interesting and informative.
I respect those who train hard to lift massive weights, attempt to understand their huge commitment and don't class them as meat-heads. Why so much hostility to us office types?
I would agree that seeing some gym users, who think they're the business, using the equipment incorrectly does wind me up too.
I respect those who train hard to lift massive weights, attempt to understand their huge commitment and don't class them as meat-heads. Why so much hostility to us office types?
I would agree that seeing some gym users, who think they're the business, using the equipment incorrectly does wind me up too.
I just hated the whole commercial thing of the gym, took the **** abit. I go to feel pain not powder my nose and drink champayne from a fountain.
Tel - never used knee supports 60kg isnt to impressive. Started free benching to day. Only managed 65ish and
it hurt something rotten.
Si
[Edited by super_si - 1/29/2003 3:12:04 PM]
Tel - never used knee supports 60kg isnt to impressive. Started free benching to day. Only managed 65ish and
it hurt something rotten.Si
[Edited by super_si - 1/29/2003 3:12:04 PM]
With regard to reps,
A)1-5 with super heavy weights (ones you can only just lift, powerlifter stylee) for power & strength
B)8-12 for bulk
C)around 30-40 for stamina.
A combination of A & C should see you with the body of a gymnast/top rock climber. IMHO the best of all worlds, strength, fitness and a toned female attracting body without the disadvantages of extra bulk and weight, which will haunt you later on in life.
EDIT: Forgot to add, I'm 6'2" and 13 stone and feel heavy, I guess you could go up to 14, maybe 15 stone as long as it's only muscle you put on.
[Edited by Toerag - 1/29/2003 3:27:15 PM]
A)1-5 with super heavy weights (ones you can only just lift, powerlifter stylee) for power & strength
B)8-12 for bulk
C)around 30-40 for stamina.
A combination of A & C should see you with the body of a gymnast/top rock climber. IMHO the best of all worlds, strength, fitness and a toned female attracting body without the disadvantages of extra bulk and weight, which will haunt you later on in life.
EDIT: Forgot to add, I'm 6'2" and 13 stone and feel heavy, I guess you could go up to 14, maybe 15 stone as long as it's only muscle you put on.
[Edited by Toerag - 1/29/2003 3:27:15 PM]
this is boring me now
I'm not 19 or more stone in weight
I'm only 5 feet 9 tall
so there
I can still lift my body weight above my head & on a bench press & I can squat to p155 or sh1t3 if I want
edit to say I'm 37 in may & heading towards old fart status
[Edited by barge - 1/29/2003 9:18:24 PM]
I'm not 19 or more stone in weight
I'm only 5 feet 9 tall
so there
I can still lift my body weight above my head & on a bench press & I can squat to p155 or sh1t3 if I want
edit to say I'm 37 in may & heading towards old fart status
[Edited by barge - 1/29/2003 9:18:24 PM]
Try this:
Pick a heavy weight (ie 80kgs) - do 6 lifts.
Reduce the weight slightly (70kgs) - do 10 lifts.
Reduce the weight by quite a lot (45kgs) - do as many as you can.
Also, if you like doing chin-ups, lift yourself up as normal but when coming back down go as slowly as you can - say 10 secs. This really ***** me up!!
Try to go for a swim afterwards as well - it helps you warm down and prevents your muscles from being sore the next day
Andy.
Pick a heavy weight (ie 80kgs) - do 6 lifts.
Reduce the weight slightly (70kgs) - do 10 lifts.
Reduce the weight by quite a lot (45kgs) - do as many as you can.
Also, if you like doing chin-ups, lift yourself up as normal but when coming back down go as slowly as you can - say 10 secs. This really ***** me up!!

Try to go for a swim afterwards as well - it helps you warm down and prevents your muscles from being sore the next day

Andy.
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