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Old 28 October 2004, 12:03 AM
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As it's now on dvd, are there any extras, deleted scenes, alternative endings on it?

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Old 28 October 2004, 07:34 PM
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Any chance of a teaser clip to see what we're missing?
Old 28 October 2004, 10:12 PM
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THE RING MASTER
Old 29 October 2004, 09:38 AM
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Hilarious

I make a tiny, tiny, tiny gag about the fact that "invaluable" is quoted three times on the back cover and it gets deleted!

I'm absolutely astonished. That is THE most Stalinesque moderation I think I have ever seen. Particularly in the light of some of the other stuff that gets posted in this place.

Can someone enlighten me as to why it was deleted?
Old 29 October 2004, 10:31 AM
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I never noticed your post but some ***** was less than complimentry!
Old 29 October 2004, 02:23 PM
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It was deleted because i used the report to moderator button on the posts made by yourself and Mart, and the moderators decided deletion was apropriate.
Old 29 October 2004, 04:24 PM
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Any Idea of a Price and date available ?

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Old 29 October 2004, 04:43 PM
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Hi Tony,

Yes, price is £16.99 plus £1 for postage/packaging.

We have the first batch back from the manufacturers now, the artwork for the cover/insert is going to be with us early next week so we will be able to despatch them from mid next week onwards.

I'll be setting up a shop account over the weekend with details of the DVD so check back there on monday and it should be updated by then.
Old 29 October 2004, 06:01 PM
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No disrespect, but why would you want to pay £16.99 to watch a std scoob go round the 'Ring, when for similar money you can buy Fazination?

And genuine question, what makes it an invaluable guide? Who is it invaluable to? Experience or novices? Is it like the Autosport Circuit guide or something made up by a fast amateur?

Thanks
Old 29 October 2004, 06:28 PM
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Old 29 October 2004, 06:37 PM
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Originally Posted by The Shrink
No disrespect, but why would you want to pay £16.99 to watch a std scoob go round the 'Ring, when for similar money you can buy Fazination?

And genuine question, what makes it an invaluable guide? Who is it invaluable to? Experience or novices? Is it like the Autosport Circuit guide or something made up by a fast amateur?

Thanks
And once you have watched Fazination 20 times, you want something a bit different.

I would think Subaru enthusiasts would rather watch a well driven Impreza than a well driven Porsche for example.

I would think it could be invaluable to a novice to learn some good lines, or to someone going through the winter without managine to do a lap, and wants to watch a few laps while supping on a Bitburger.
Old 29 October 2004, 06:41 PM
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Originally Posted by johnfelstead
It was deleted because i used the report to moderator button on the posts made by yourself and Mart, and the moderators decided deletion was apropriate.
LOL - I still find that hysterical. i.e. you told on me! Magnificent.
Old 29 October 2004, 06:50 PM
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And once you have watched Fazination 20 times, you want something a bit different
True. But then you can watch the 956 footage or something. Watching a std scoob go round is hardly exciting is it, let's be honest - and we're not talking about someone like Walter Rohl etc are we?
Old 29 October 2004, 07:14 PM
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...ok, I can see where this is going.
Old 29 October 2004, 07:46 PM
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who cares what else is out there...
a scooby footage dvd of the best circuit in the best scooby done by someone who loves the scooby and who can drive.

stop moaning - dont have to buy it

i say congrats to John for the imagination and patience to pull this off
Old 29 October 2004, 08:08 PM
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one man one german ring unedited full on action
Old 29 October 2004, 09:23 PM
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LOL @ Fuz

Its so simple - this DVD is uniquely about The Nurburgring. Plain and simple.

It is to help show the lines and give a feel for this extremely complex track. The DVD is uniquely illustrative with on screen graphics that feature corner names, lines, tips, warnings, incline info, plan view, rear view, time, maps etc etc. You dont get this from your showboat 'showbiz' drivers showing off videos!!! This is what makes this presentation UNIQUE. It is an enthusiast's guide for enthusiasts. There are also many other laps presented - tussling with Ferraris and split screen camera views etc.

The DVD is about driving in a real world car and is not about showing off in some car costing 6 times as much and with twice the power. Even I could lap J in one those (I wish ). It shows how it is NOT about power and spec but about knowledge, confidence, application, experience and control. If some of the long faces here aspired to some of those qualities they wouldnt have time to be wringing their sour grapes in public. Those that do, DO... Those that cant knock...

Also, pls note it is not compulsory to buy it FFS...
D (who can now name the corners - even if he still doesnt know the lines )
Old 29 October 2004, 09:36 PM
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better than spending £20 on internet **** ........
Old 29 October 2004, 09:59 PM
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Originally Posted by Gutmann pug
better than spending £20 on internet **** ........
Now 'ang on!
Old 29 October 2004, 10:06 PM
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what ave i told you about the 'ang on' lad????
Old 29 October 2004, 10:52 PM
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Boys, man! You are using the wrong sites!!! Now if you let me have your wives' names I can burn a li'l somethink special on the end of the DVD for you both
Old 29 October 2004, 11:27 PM
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Originally Posted by The Shrink
No disrespect, but why would you want to pay £16.99 to watch a std scoob go round the 'Ring, when for similar money you can buy Fazination?

And genuine question, what makes it an invaluable guide? Who is it invaluable to? Experience or novices? Is it like the Autosport Circuit guide or something made up by a fast amateur?

Thanks
I would for a Few reasons

1) Own a Scoob
2) I've driven it around the Nurburgring
3) been on the same Track and had a Passenger ride with JF

He maybe classed by some, as a fast amateur. He is always tackles everything professionaly. I am certain if the DVD has his name on it, it will be produced in that same mannner.


Tony

Ps. This DVD won't out sell 'Lord of the Ring' DVD but I like to support Scoobynetters JF & Scoobymag etc better them, than 'Mex Power' etc.
Old 30 October 2004, 03:49 AM
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As diesel says, this DVD is aimed to give something different than the norm. The car featured is the lightweight JDM STi5 TypeRA Limited with Leda Coilover suspension, AP Racing brakes, Uprated ARB's, ALK, Bumpsteer mod and fast road geometry, 17" wheels, Bridgestone SO2 PP tyres and uses the 280PS 8200rpm engine mated to the close ratio DCCD equiped transmition with front/rear LSD's, i am not sure that would be classed as standard.



The idea for the video came from people asking me to provide some higher resolution footage from my onboard cameras. I have been posting onboard footage from my car for years on my website, which is available for free and people seem to enjoy watching that footage. Once the idea of making a Video was raised and I thought it might be interesting and fun to do I contacted Diesel to see if he would help me put something together. Diesel is a professional TV producer who also happens to be a Subaru enthusiast and all round good egg, he had the misfortune of sharing a lap at the ‘ring with me in my Westfield so had a great insight into what I wanted to do so was the perfect person to help make this a reality. At the time I had no idea how much work or time was involved in producing a Video, it’s been a massive learning curve for me, I can’t thank Diesel enough for all the work he put into this.



We then took onboard ideas from lots of people who either drove at the ‘ring or enjoyed watching the footage and decided rather than just copy my footage onto a Video, we would produce something a little different that nobody to date has. There are lots of videos out there of people driving the ‘ring but there is nothing that is aimed at giving people an insight to what driving the circuit is really like for the majority of drivers who have never visited the circuit and wish to do so in their road cars. I remember my first trip to the ‘ring and I had no idea what to expect, it’s easy now to forget how daunting those first few laps were. The great attraction of the circuit for me is how you never stop learning, it’s a major challenge and hopefully that comes across in the video.



Diesel and I then decided to produce two laps with detailed circuit information with additional graphics showing the racing line, corner names, inclination of the road, location on the circuit etc all in real time, so you can compare where you are to the footage you are watching. We also decided to have one of the laps with a commentary explaining the way I prefer to drive the circuit, with the lines I take, information such as where it is extra slippy in the wet, where to late apex and why, where i use the kerbs and why, plus some background info on the track that people might find interesting. This is what took the majority of the time because we had to create all the graphics and effects and then make them sync up to the footage.



The remaining footage on the video is made up of various laps to give you a feel for the type of things you are likely to encounter such as superbikes that leave you on the straights but hold you up “in the twisties”, Ferraris that are easily overtaken when driven by someone unfamiliar with the circuit, how you can catch Porsche Turbo’s by carrying more speed through the high speed corners, that sort of thing. It should be entertaining and at the same time informative showing you what goes on during a public access day at the Nurburgring. It shows really well what a fantastic car the Impreza is, soaking up the most challenging race circuit there is where you can be doing speeds in excess of 140MPH, hard braking into 30MPH corners or airborne over crests at over 100MPH. My Impreza never let me down once in hundreds of laps there, that’s an amazing thing to say when I look back.





There are eight laps and an Introduction giving a DVD of 1 hour 14 minutes:

The first lap features two camera angles, forward facing mounted at eye level on my crash helmet synchronised with a rear view, additionally there is an active circuit map which follows the direction of travel, so as you turn a corner the map rotates to show you what is ahead. You also have the corner name displayed and an indication of the gradient of the road either up or downhill in % and finally a lap timer running.


The second lap has footage from the offside door mirror which is synchronised to graphics showing you the racing line, plus an overall circuit map so you can see where on the track you are at any particular time. It also features full commentary (sorry about the accent Matt. J ) set to some music. You also have the corner names displayed.


Lap three is a from a camera mounted on the rear window pointing forward, which shows some good footage of how a Ferrari and Ducati are no match for an Impreza driven by someone with circuit knowledge. You also get to see a typical Yellow Flag situation which you can come across very quickly.

Lap four is a multi camera angle combination lap, with cameras mounted on my crash helmet, rear window pointing rearward, roof vent pointing forward, front bumper a few inches off the ground, side of the rear wing pointing forward, rear window pointing forward.


Lap five has forward facing footage that shows well how some drivers on track don’t know the rules and how this can frustrate other riders/drivers. There is also a good illustration of the traffic you can encounter which you have to be patient with.

Lap six is a full lap of the circuit from the rear facing camera, this shows better than anything how severe some of the elevation changes can be.

Lap Seven is a horizontally split screen lap with synchronised forward/rear facing footage.


Lap Eight is a vertically split screen lap with synchronised forward facing cameras from the rear window and roof vent, it shows really well how when you get the lines right you can carry a lot of speed by linking all the small corners and making them into a straight run. It also shows really well what an incredibly stunning circuit the Nurburgring is.


Hopefully you enjoy the DVD and find it entertaining and informative.
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'sub' 8m 34s? Is that all?
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Originally Posted by RedFive
'sub' 8m 34s? Is that all?
Old 02 November 2004, 04:19 PM
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Looks good John
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Hopefully the DVD will be in the shop tonight/tomorrow, i am just finalising the shop account setup with Shaun.
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Old 02 November 2004, 05:05 PM
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** Not a constructive reply **

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Originally Posted by RedFive
'sub' 8m 34s? Is that all?
Unless you have something constructive to contribute to this thread, may I suggest you desist from posting on it again.

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