DrEvil

TurboTeeth,

Glad you are ok mate, I nearly had a similar experience a few weeks back.

90 degree bend, came round it to find a horse-n-cart blocking the otherside of the road.. not a problem - until the idiot starts to turn right across the road, directly infront of me after he saw me.. fortunately, even though he manoveured so late, I was still able to stop, albeit like an emergency stop... and guess what, he hurls abuse at me!.. Should of reported him.

Horse-n-carts, or horse-n-rider - either way, they should be forced to get insurance.

I hope you get yourself sorted soon, all the best, Alex

[Edited by DrEvil - 11/19/2002 6:19:31 PM]

Fuzz

this could have so easily been me about a month ago, only it was a drain cleaning truck not a horse, lots of chirping from the tyres and I went for the gap as it was obvious I wasn't going to stop. thank christ nothing was coming the other way....
makes you slow down for ...oh about a week

If your stuck for a lift anywhere in the near future gis a bell.

Andy

m18use

Its about time they banned horses from being on the road,keep
them in fields they would soon moan if we drove round
there fields.

Brun

Agreed.

Brendan Hughes

Glad all are OK, Turboteeth many thanks for posting this, I hope it slows people down.

Sorry to say, if a driver can't stop in the distance they can see, they are at fault. There may be some sort of contribution from the other party, but only a contribution, that's all. Hence driving without due care and attention.

I've done it in my Terzo - tried to search on here for my admission of guilt, but maybe search doesn't go that far back (it was in Spring 2000 IIRC). I came hacking round a bend on a B-road I knew really well to find an ambulance trying to reverse into a driveway, in other words parked (or so it seemed, as I did 50 round the bend) perpendicularly across the road, blocking all of my lane and half of the other. I still don't know how I missed it. Broadsiding an ambulance at 50 - quite a story for the press that would have been.

I think I tried to shift the blame at the time, saying it was dark and he didn't even have blue lights on, but I know now and fully acknowledge it was my fault.

I told this to the MasterDrive instructor, and he said a similar thing, when he'd come round a corner he knew to find an artic smothering the road trying to reverse into a drive

You can also, not without basis, blame the car; as already said, the scoob is so damn good around corners it makes a person think they are the driver that they, frankly, probably aren't. Certainly did with me.

Good luck to all, hope it sorts itself out for the best

Brendan

LG John

Oh dear!! Unless that cassette came with pictures I can see any justification for going back for it

Turboteeth

It's come to light that the white van may have actually been stopped directly opposite the horse when the first Scoob came round the bend...which may explain why he drove off, because he thought he had caused the crash?!

Is it a legal requirement to stop if you witness an accident???

TurboBoost

Not disagreeing totally, and after an ABS moment earlier today due to some **** in a lorry blocking a narrow lane I'm in no position to lecture anyone.
But isn't it pointless to buy a Scoob and pay large sums to run and insure it if you only go fast on motorways and dual carriageways.

babber

Mark,

I think it is mate, and that's why the copper said to me "so you left the scene of an accident to drop your children off".......******, I left the scene of the accident to go to the stables and get someone to come and collect the horse!!! I thought it was a good idea to drop the girls off, as they were frightend and worried

Cheers Phill C

Dave T-S

This "why should horses be on the road" etc bollox makes a regular appearance on here

They have a legal right to, and that's the end of it! If you don't like it, campaign the government....

"Horses should have insurance".....I don't disagree with you, and most have third party anyway, but lets get our priorities right and do something about the estimated million car users that have no insurance first......

I used to ride horses on the road, most of them current or ex steeplechase racehorses. When a 1500lb horse is spooked by a carrier bag in a hedgerow and jumps six feet sideways, there's not much you can do about it (Phil, you should know this). It was probably spooked by some turd in an car that didn't slow down enough/give a wide enough berth anyway

There are two riding stables in our area, and I drive round every blind bend assuming there is going to be a horse halfway round it. Not exactly difficult to do!

I'm not having a go at anyone, but it is ALL drivers' responsibility to be able to slow down in the distance we can see, and if any of us come round a corner and there is a horse in the middle of the road, and we crash as a result of it, it probably won't go too far as a defence saying it is the horse's fault.

Whether or not anybody agrees with horses being on the road (and I personally gave up riding on the roads because I didn't feel safe with some of the stupid drivers I encountered), they still do have a right to be there and we should expect to encounter them!

[Edited by Dave T-S - 11/21/2002 1:20:51 PM]

Phil Harrison

Thanks to Dave T-S for a very proper defence..... I wasn't going to rise to the rather intemperate remark, especially in the light of Webmaster's recent thread. Just one thing, tho' - the inference from the thread isn't that a horse spooked, rather that the woman rider was talking to the van driver, and the two had stopped in the middle of the road for the purpose! Also, is there a thread on another BBS...? There are some comments which seem to cross refer to things said elsewhere, and we seem to have only half the story!

Brave man, Dave, taking TB Racers on the road!!!

Phil

snowcrash

thoughts about the incident after it happened were:
1) why was the transit stopped?
2) why was the horse in the road (not to the side/edge? or to the massive grass verge on the other side)
3) why did the transit driver drive off?
4) why did the horserider leave without talking to the police (this still isn't 100% known if accurate, but no-one remembers the horserider's details being taken by the police or anyone else...)

cheers,
simon,

Dave T-S

Phil
LOL - they are even worse offroad

I used to ride out on Saturdays for a racing yard in Newmarket - I rode the stable hack, which everyone else refused to ride - as I was the Saturday boy (at the age of 38 ) I had no choice
It was a New Zealand ex chaser, 17.3 hands and a real wind up merchant - would specialise in getting along Henry Cecil or Michael Stoute's strings on the gallops, then spook the lot of them for a giggle - about 100 highly strung 2YO fillies spead out all over the gallops freaking out, and by this time dear old SID was walking along as if butter wouldn't melt in his mouth

Anyone that thinks horses don't come first should drive through Newmarket at 7am on a Saturday morning

P20SPD

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