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Old 07 January 2021, 02:57 PM
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Originally Posted by IdonthaveaScooby
Er...likely cos we dont have the infrastructure in place
Its already there. Every hoise with parking has EV capacity. Its only those living in high rise, flats etc. Street charging can be installed. Rapid charging for those wanting a quick top up. Its only going to get better from a high base of installation.

If I can charge a 100kw Tesla on a. campsite there's nowt to worry about.
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You could show some forethought and send your kids to school on the bus , somewhere In the same county
Old 07 January 2021, 07:09 PM
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Originally Posted by IdonthaveaScooby
You could show some forethought and send your kids to school on the bus , somewhere In the same county
We are in the same county. Dont use ICE vehicles wherever possible.
Old 07 January 2021, 10:00 PM
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Recently looked at a used Volvo D6 to use as a runabout:

Plug-in hybrid.
All wheel drive
Zero tax
£6000

and

The good ol' 5pot DIESEL for 45+mpg economy and unlimited range on the long jaunts.

None of this petrol hybrid nonsense.

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Old 11 January 2021, 09:18 AM
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Pro drive announce a electric hearse.

TBH, the concept seemed like a good idea.... BUT....

They based it on a fugly Leaf:





This is officially a car I will NEVER be seen dead in (I'm going to state that in my will).

(checks calendar...nope not April 1st )

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Old 11 January 2021, 11:30 AM
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Originally Posted by ALi-B
Pro drive announce a electric hearse.

TBH, the concept seemed like a good idea.... BUT....

They based it on a fugly Leaf:





This is officially a car I will NEVER be seen dead in (I'm going to state that in my will).

(checks calendar...nope not April 1st )
In fairness to Prodrive, its a demonstration of sustainable lightweight composites rather than EV technology.
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Adds a new level, quietly shuffle of this mortal coil
Old 11 January 2021, 12:21 PM
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You'd hope he would shuffled off before getting to this stage
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Deposit down on Model Y,. son has agreed to ditch his crappy A class Merc. 😁
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Elon laughing all the way to the bank
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Originally Posted by IdonthaveaScooby
Elon laughing all the way to the bank
He is the richest man on the Earth and Mars
Old 18 January 2021, 08:31 AM
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Rolls Royce to debut the Silent Shadow based on the BMW i7
Old 18 January 2021, 12:59 PM
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Well...i7's grill is just about big enough to be used on a Rolls
Old 18 January 2021, 02:11 PM
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Ssems to be BMW motors and battery tech, Rolls chassis
Old 18 January 2021, 02:27 PM
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I was watching something the other day about battery technology, and how much better the (and safer) the solid state stuff is, vs the Tesla 4680 battery which they are hoping to roll out this year. Was quite interesting, and it's clear that the solid state is the way to go, for various reasons, but it won't really be commercially available until 2025, which gives Tesla 4 years to tout the benefits of their new battery. I think that although Tesla are pushing what's capable of wet LiON batteries, the first gen solid state out perform it already, I imagine that in the next decade, we will see huge strides in the technology.

The Toyota one is claimed to be fully chargeable in 10 mins
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Lots of issues to overcome in solid state batteries. I wish them luck. Finally managed to find a decent chap to enjoy my much loved STi today so deposit going down on my Model 3 tomorrow.
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Originally Posted by Markyscoob
Lots of issues to overcome in solid state batteries. I wish them luck. Finally managed to find a decent chap to enjoy my much loved STi today so deposit going down on my Model 3 tomorrow.
Which model 3 are you going for? The 2021 models have some nice improvements,
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Ev adoption nears critical mass in 2023 overtaking ICE
Old 09 February 2021, 08:22 AM
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20% of deaths attributed to fossil fuel pollution research claims. Time to crush your polluting ICE vehicle
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Originally Posted by andy97
20% of deaths attributed to fossil fuel pollution research claims. Time to crush your polluting ICE vehicle
As much as I hope that's tongue in cheek, if we crushed all our cars to replace them with leccy stuff, the environmental impact of doing that would be catastrophic as well as unworkable. I'm sure I read the other day that the national grid would have to increase capacity by 4 times what it is today to deal with that.

Anyway, lets get that new coal mine open in Cumbria, we'll need it to help produce the steel for all these new cars
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Originally Posted by ^Qwerty^
As much as I hope that's tongue in cheek, if we crushed all our cars to replace them with leccy stuff, the environmental impact of doing that would be catastrophic as well as unworkable. I'm sure I read the other day that the national grid would have to increase capacity by 4 times what it is today to deal with that.

Anyway, lets get that new coal mine open in Cumbria, we'll need it to help produce the steel for all these new cars
National grid has already conducted assessment of their ability to support EV expansion to 2040. They said they are more than able.

Stupid decision to open a coal mine run a local plant.

Did you read that to produce green hydrogen to run our replace our house gas boilers would require 40 times the amount of wind turbines currently in operation. Now to have 40 times the number of turbines would be excellent for everything but further development of hydrogen production is drastically needed
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How is the planet going to support another 20 % of people to be around that much longer ?

on Mars perhaps ?
Old 09 February 2021, 09:53 AM
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Problems for Tesla in China

https://www.bbc.com/news/business-55990821


Improvements in Hydrogen are ongoing. By the end of the decade Hydrogen will be the norm and EV's will be history!

There was an interesting development in the press this week with Hydrogen paste which can be used in small vehicles like bicycles and scooters where a hydrogen gas fuel tank is not practical.
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Originally Posted by andy97

Stupid decision to open a coal mine run a local plant.

Did you read that to produce green hydrogen to run our replace our house gas boilers would require 40 times the amount of wind turbines currently in operation. Now to have 40 times the number of turbines would be excellent for everything but further development of hydrogen production is drastically needed
So you think it's a better idea and greener to ship the coal required to produce the steel halfway around the planet on what is widely recognised as the dirtiest form of transport available, although I didn't quite understand your response - run a local plant?

On the hydrogen front, one of my work colleagues lives in the Orkneys - says they are doing some wonderful things with hydrogen up there.
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So it’s ok for west to do business in China but not Russia - despite human rights abuses
Old 09 February 2021, 10:48 AM
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Originally Posted by andy97
20% of deaths attributed to fossil fuel pollution research claims. Time to crush your polluting ICE vehicle

Better off taxing people who use car travel to a fixed place of work, incorporating it into their tax code (simple calc; distance from work, extra percentage if partly driven in a car or taxi, bigger tax if fully driven, reduction for public transport use). Especially targeting those that live in far flung commuter belts. Employer and employee both held responsible for checking and verifying this (tracking via mobile phone geolocation, submitting ticket purchases etc). NO tax breaks for cars that use renewable or electric.

For retail; Enviro tax on goods based on distance transported (bit like Spain's enviro tax on online purchases). Promoting a shift towards local retail. Big duty on needless transporting stuff, like importing water from overseas unless done via 100% renewable (not carbon offset ).

Oh yes, reduction or a ban on tax breaks for carbon offset; Planting a tree does not make your 737 'green'.

Tax gained of course should be directly placed into public infrastructure to maintain public mobility. Nationalisation/subsiding of routes for areas that are poorly served. It should be ring fenced on a political level as so not be used to fill black holes (like the NHS) and not for vanity projects that only serve the Capital (except completion of the Lower Thames crossing to give better access with the North to/from Folkestone).

By reducing vehicle reliance via punitive taxation we should see a reduction of overall vehicle use; Covid lockdowns have shown that vehicle use for commuting can make a massive difference for both infrastructure overloading and consequently the environment (noise as well as air). As even fossil fuel vehicles become less polluting as they operate in free flowing traffic conditions, they also become more reliable and suffer less wear. It's a win on many levels.

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Old 10 February 2021, 09:17 PM
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It has been announced

The coal mine application is being reviewed before final decision.
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Elon Musk/Tesla has invested $1.5Bn in climate unfriendly energy sapping bit-coin! Their green credentials just went down the potty!
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Originally Posted by BMWhere?
Elon Musk/Tesla has invested $1.5Bn in climate unfriendly energy sapping bit-coin! Their green credentials just went down the potty!
As if his megafactory is eco friendly
Most corporations "caring" for the environment appears to be a trend to sustain business.
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Originally Posted by BMWhere?
Elon Musk/Tesla has invested $1.5Bn in climate unfriendly energy sapping bit-coin! Their green credentials just went down the potty!
I never actually thought of that, but I assume you're talking about the GPU's required for the processing?


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