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Old 03 December 2020, 04:46 PM
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They wont landfill such a large resource.

The home storage batteries is as yet an untapped market

An Australian fella collected hundreds of scrapped laptop batteries with 18650 lithium cells. In the vast majority of dead battery packs were usually just one cell had failed. He separated the cells, sorted, tested each cell and now has over 40kW of home battery banks. This has been successfully running for over 2 years, all fed via his solar array.

This clearly shows the potential awaiting tired car batteries.
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CEO of Aston Martin was shocked to hear of this anti EV propaganda. He is launching an investigation.

Firefighting a disastrous PR position

Volvo's original comments have been called into question, over their methodology amd data analysis

https://www.theguardian.com/business...et-pr-firm-row
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He mut have spent thousands of hours wiring all those batteries up my god !

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Originally Posted by IdonthaveaScooby
He mut have spent thousands of hours wiring all those batteries up my god !

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His first battery packs was indeed hard work. Subsequently he developed a technique where he could spot weld couple hundred batteries in parallel in a 10-15 mins. There are battery form holders which simplify assembly. Truly a garden shed innovator, demonstrates the ingenious of some folk. All software battery manage monitoring. He can insert or remove packs that show any capacity issues.

He has a setup comparable to 3 or 4 Tesla walls for virtually nothing in outlay.
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Default End of oil exploration

Denmark is with immediate effect end new oil exploration.
https://www.wsj.com/articles/denmark...ls-11607098928

This is an excellent decision, hopefully others will follow soon

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10 % of its power from imported nuclear like us

30 % from fossil fuel burning Coal
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Originally Posted by IdonthaveaScooby
10 % of its power from imported nuclear like us

30 % from fossil fuel burning Coal
Vast majority is from wind. I presume they will promote more renewable energy sources
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Default Progress to 'Green Hydrogen' slow but determined

Hydrogen by electrolysis will take decades to be a major energy resource according this article from a company invested in hydrogen from renewables
https://www.cnbc.com/2020/12/04/gree...g-hurdles.html

It will get there
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Default Yet another surprised

Opel shocked at the demand for their new EV.

https://electrek.co/2020/12/03/opel-mokka-e-sells-out/

Why O' why don't legacy manufacturers accept people want EVs. There is huge pemt up demand for a well designed and priced vehicle. They will sell like hotcakes.

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50% is not actually a vast majority

unless perhaps youre donald trump
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Originally Posted by andy97
Opel shocked at the demand for their new EV.

https://electrek.co/2020/12/03/opel-mokka-e-sells-out/

Why O' why don't legacy manufacturers accept people want EVs. There is huge pemt up demand for a well designed and priced vehicle. They will sell like hotcakes.

the punters are being forced iinto it by gov legislation - not quite the same as Wanting it
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Originally Posted by IdonthaveaScooby
the punters are being forced iinto it by gov legislation - not quite the same as Wanting it
There is no forcing yet, people are more environmentally conscious that legacy manufacturers give them credit
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They look at the headline figure how much it costs to charge , you mean !
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Default Forecourt EV charging

Britain's first solar powered charging station is up and running.

https://www.theguardian.com/environm...opens-in-essex


We wilk forgive the Tesla network, seen as they are in carparks , 😁
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So 5 min charge would give you 50 milles ....?

i assumed it was the particular car that would decide this - not the charger


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Originally Posted by IdonthaveaScooby
So 5 min charge would give you 50 milles ....?

i assumed it was the particular car that would decide this - not the charger
Cars with capability to rapid charge probably over 100 kW will achieve desired rates

My model 3 could charge at 1000 miles per hour if I could find a 250+kW charger. I have to make do with 500 miles per hour.

Topping up like ICE is not really done, I have always run down to quarter tank and then fill up. Probably most EV owners who cover large distances. We drive 200 miles, stop have a proper break for 30-50 mins and continue for another 200 miles.

Considering most folk never drive anything like those distances per day its irrelevant.

From the owners who post about charging habits, tiny handful regularly use rapid chargers day to day. I used one the other day, before that a month or two ago. I used it because I have free supercharging and had 30 mins to waste
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They promised us we were heading for a uk meditterean climate when i was at school , if nothing was done


jut look at it out there
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Global weather change, but with a consistent increase

Its latest annual State of the UK Climate report shows how the country continues to warm, with 2019's average temperature 1.1°C above long-term 1961-1990 levels. The most recent decade has been 0.9°C warmer across the UK than the 1961-1990 average,
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I fear all we can do now , is build many more coal fired power stations - like the Germans and others across the world
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The government have long wanted a return to full-speed-ahead nuclear reactor based energy production. They will use this 2030 deadline of a way of pushing this agenda, building the nuclear power stations and their 'get out of jail free' card will be the excuse that the public wanted to go 100% EV and this was the only way to do it.

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Originally Posted by andy97
Global weather change, but with a consistent increase

Its latest annual State of the UK Climate report shows how the country continues to warm, with 2019's average temperature 1.1°C above long-term 1961-1990 levels. The most recent decade has been 0.9°C warmer across the UK than the 1961-1990 average,

40 years, in the grand scheme of things is a crazy thin slice to base anything on
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Originally Posted by IdonthaveaScooby
40 years, in the grand scheme of things is a crazy thin slice to base anything on
https://www.theguardian.com/environm...study-suggests
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I support EVs, but, one thing I do wonder how they will solve is what to do when you run our of charge in a remote area? So, you're doing something like the North Coast 500, or driving from Whistler to Kamloops, and you run out of charge for whatever reason. In ICE, you could flag someone down and either get them to take you to (and if they're nice) and from a fuel station with a bit jerry can full of whatever. But there's no easy way to get enough charge into your battery to drive the possibly large distance to the nearest one.
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Originally Posted by Mr Fuji
I support EVs, but, one thing I do wonder how they will solve is what to do when you run our of charge in a remote area? So, you're doing something like the North Coast 500, or driving from Whistler to Kamloops, and you run out of charge for whatever reason. In ICE, you could flag someone down and either get them to take you to (and if they're nice) and from a fuel station with a bit jerry can full of whatever. But there's no easy way to get enough charge into your battery to drive the possibly large distance to the nearest one.

Keep one of these in the boot
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Originally Posted by Mr Fuji
I support EVs, but, one thing I do wonder how they will solve is what to do when you run our of charge in a remote area? So, you're doing something like the North Coast 500, or driving from Whistler to Kamloops, and you run out of charge for whatever reason. In ICE, you could flag someone down and either get them to take you to (and if they're nice) and from a fuel station with a bit jerry can full of whatever. But there's no easy way to get enough charge into your battery to drive the possibly large distance to the nearest one.

Most of the recovery services now carry an emergency generator for such, lets face it, quite rare occasions. If you're traveling in remote areas you would plan your journey a bit better.

Plus every property, well just about all of them has an electric supply. Im sure a local would nt turn down a few quid to plug into their socket.


I charged our 100kw models S whilst at a camp site from a 3 pin plug, knowing for a day I would not need the car. Following day I had near full charge for a sight seeing tour. Electric was included in camp site charges

Just looked up Whistler to Kamloops, its only 180 miles. Most average EVs and Tesla will do it no problems.

Edit British Columbia has more than a 1000 dedicated charge points with 70 rapid chargers with BC Hydro, also there is a Tesla network too. More and more EV points are being installed

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At 0 degrees ??

best take a few jerry cans spare for teh jenny - thus kind of defeating the object ....

looked into this when considering an engine for yacht - attractive easy installation , possible top up with solar while not there . All ultimatley flawed


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Got to say just found it irritating when someone would knock you up half way through supper

“Can we just plug in for ten minutes ....”.

ie .We can’t find any other sucker out there
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Originally Posted by IdonthaveaScooby
At 0 degrees ??

best take a few jerry cans spare for teh jenny - thus kind of defeating the object ....

looked into this when considering an engine for yacht - attractive easy installation , possible top up with solar while not there . All ultimatley flawed

Not heard of preconditioning, that Tesla and I suppose all liquid temperature controlled battery packs. With a little warmth, like 10 mins Tesla's range is near as good as summer range.

There are many kind hearted people, of you ask kindly and are in need.

Act like an **** treated like an **** DPB
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Default Pollution worse than before

lockdown!

Not surprising, given that most folk are steering clear of overcrowded public network trains an buses, by driving their own vehicle.

Terrible news for asthma, lung and heart condition sufferers.

https://www.theguardian.com/environm...ng-covid-fears

Zero tailpipe vehicles are needed in greater numbers now!!!!


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