Notices
ScoobyNet General General Subaru Discussion
Sponsored by:
Sponsored by:

WRX STI - is it a risky £20K+ purchase?

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old 31 October 2017, 04:51 PM
  #31  
barnshaw
Scooby Regular
iTrader: (1)
 
barnshaw's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2010
Posts: 884
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

Theres a guy called TRL at Berry Heathrow on the forums, have a look at this link which has been made for more info , its very useful! -

https://jawshua.github.io/manmaths/#!/bmw-m140i/
Old 31 October 2017, 04:56 PM
  #32  
bioforger
Scooby Regular
iTrader: (1)
 
bioforger's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2002
Location: Pig Hill, Wiltsh1te
Posts: 16,995
Received 5 Likes on 5 Posts
Default

ah yea I know about him, recommended by joe archilles of utube fame
Old 31 October 2017, 05:13 PM
  #33  
bioforger
Scooby Regular
iTrader: (1)
 
bioforger's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2002
Location: Pig Hill, Wiltsh1te
Posts: 16,995
Received 5 Likes on 5 Posts
Default

Do you know if the TRL deals are finance packages only, or does he do cash sales? Probably not I guess and that's how he is able to offer such large discounts.

Last edited by bioforger; 31 October 2017 at 05:57 PM.
Old 04 November 2017, 12:00 PM
  #34  
Norman Dog
Scooby Regular
iTrader: (1)
 
Norman Dog's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2006
Location: South Shields Tyne & Wear
Posts: 3,036
Received 23 Likes on 16 Posts
Default

If I was spending £20k+, I'd have one of these.

https://www.motorpoint.co.uk/vehicle...0saloon/763836

AWD, 316BHP, 0 to 60 4.8 seconds.
Oh, and 55mpg.
Old 04 November 2017, 02:26 PM
  #35  
Sarg400
Scooby Regular
iTrader: (1)
 
Sarg400's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2014
Location: Devon
Posts: 524
Likes: 0
Received 1 Like on 1 Post
Default

Originally Posted by Norman Dog
If I was spending £20k+, I'd have one of these.

https://www.motorpoint.co.uk/vehicle...0saloon/763836

AWD, 316BHP, 0 to 60 4.8 seconds.
Oh, and 55mpg.
And a **** boring bmw diesel
Old 04 November 2017, 03:12 PM
  #36  
plenty
Scooby Regular
iTrader: (13)
 
plenty's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2012
Location: UK
Posts: 771
Received 44 Likes on 30 Posts
Default

Says it all really about the state of the brand when folks on a Subaru forum say they'd rather buy a diesel BMW.
Old 04 November 2017, 04:44 PM
  #37  
Norman Dog
Scooby Regular
iTrader: (1)
 
Norman Dog's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2006
Location: South Shields Tyne & Wear
Posts: 3,036
Received 23 Likes on 16 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by Sarg400
And a **** boring bmw diesel
I used to have a 320BHP STi and once tried taking one on, believe me they're no slouches.
Old 04 November 2017, 07:40 PM
  #38  
hedgecutter
Scooby Regular
iTrader: (5)
 
hedgecutter's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2010
Location: far, far west
Posts: 3,731
Received 640 Likes on 466 Posts
Default

Later jdm hatch or saloon, good resale , modding fun, sorted
Old 04 November 2017, 07:48 PM
  #39  
urban
Scooby Regular
iTrader: (1)
 
urban's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2002
Location: Never you mind
Posts: 12,566
Received 1 Like on 1 Post
Default

Originally Posted by trainer
If i had a budget of 30k my first choice would be a Merc C63 Coupe you can get a nice low millage example probably from a dealer with warranty Second choice would be a used A45 again you can pick these up for under 30k
For me Subaru have been left behind over the years I would never use a dealer for servicing on any car use a specialist they are cheaper and you get a better service
Having been there, and done that. I'd be inclined to say skip the C63, and go for an E63.
Fantastic car, and way ahead of the C63 in all departments in my opinion.
Old 04 November 2017, 08:17 PM
  #40  
lewis87
Scooby Regular
iTrader: (1)
 
lewis87's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2016
Location: Angus
Posts: 130
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by Norman Dog
I used to have a 320BHP STi and once tried taking one on, believe me they're no slouches.

​​​​It's still a white diesel BMW, looks like a travelling salesman's company car.

Wouldn't look out of place in your average car park alongside the hordes of white Audi's and VW's though.
Old 04 November 2017, 08:42 PM
  #41  
Norman Dog
Scooby Regular
iTrader: (1)
 
Norman Dog's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2006
Location: South Shields Tyne & Wear
Posts: 3,036
Received 23 Likes on 16 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by lewis87
​​​​It's still a white diesel BMW, looks like a travelling salesman's company car.

Wouldn't look out of place in your average car park alongside the hordes of white Audi's and VW's though.
Which is kind of the point really, certainly doesn't look like a fast car.

Miss mine every day, put a smile on my face every time I drove it, what I don't miss is the attention they attract from every wannabe racer who think they have something to prove.

If I were to get another Impreza, would definitely pay the extra and go for a JDM. The 2.5 is simply too much of a risk.

If I had the choice of a brand new car, would have to be the Merc A45 AMG, those things are seriously, phenomenally fast.
Old 04 November 2017, 08:48 PM
  #42  
bioforger
Scooby Regular
iTrader: (1)
 
bioforger's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2002
Location: Pig Hill, Wiltsh1te
Posts: 16,995
Received 5 Likes on 5 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by Norman Dog
Which is kind of the point really, certainly doesn't look like a fast car.

Miss mine every day, put a smile on my face every time I drove it, what I don't miss is the attention they attract from every wannabe racer who think they have something to prove.

If I were to get another Impreza, would definitely pay the extra and go for a JDM. The 2.5 is simply too much of a risk.

If I had the choice of a brand new car, would have to be the Merc A45 AMG, those things are seriously, phenomenally fast.
lol its not risky at all, most of us have 20K or above mileages so far, the 09/10 hatches that had the dodgy maps would have mostly all blown up long before that Or straight off the forecourt according to the snet massive

And the 140/240i are quicker than the A45 once rolling

Last edited by bioforger; 04 November 2017 at 10:13 PM.
Old 04 November 2017, 09:36 PM
  #43  
lewis87
Scooby Regular
iTrader: (1)
 
lewis87's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2016
Location: Angus
Posts: 130
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

The American seem to buy plenty of STI's and they've had the 2.5 since the blobeye was introduced I think?
Old 04 November 2017, 09:45 PM
  #44  
lewis87
Scooby Regular
iTrader: (1)
 
lewis87's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2016
Location: Angus
Posts: 130
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by Norman Dog
Which is kind of the point really, certainly doesn't look like a fast car.

Miss mine every day, put a smile on my face every time I drove it, what I don't miss is the attention they attract from every wannabe racer who think they have something to prove.

If I were to get another Impreza, would definitely pay the extra and go for a JDM. The 2.5 is simply too much of a risk.

If I had the choice of a brand new car, would have to be the Merc A45 AMG, those things are seriously, phenomenally fast.
Some diesel BMW's and the A45 AMG you mention might be fast but they do lack a bit of fun or character.
​​​​​​
Old 08 November 2017, 07:05 AM
  #45  
STI450
Scooby Regular
 
STI450's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2016
Location: Haz-Zebbug, Malta
Posts: 69
Received 4 Likes on 2 Posts
Default

Like it or not the EJ257 is not a great engine unless you baby it and ensure everything is 100%. 10W60 engine oil replaced on a regular basis, engine oil temp target 85-90C under load for max longevity and coolant temps 85C, max 90C under load. The key with these engines is to not let them get overly hot. Help them breathe (intake and exhaust mods) and be sensible with boost pressures.


Frankly for the amount of money you need to spend to get these 100% reliable long term and also to get some half decent gains they just aren't worth it anymore, unless that's your kind of thing to keep throwing money at them.


Whilst people may say a Golf 7R is boring, a 7R DSG running a Stage 1 map on factory hardware will leave most Scooby's behind! Plump for a good intake, downpipe and upgraded intercooler and run 400bhp/400TQ along with a DSG remap and it's one of the quickest sleepers on the road in this category/price range.


And yes I do own a Scooby! 2008 STI Hatch that had loads spent on it by the former owner and was running 450/450.
Old 08 November 2017, 10:19 AM
  #46  
Rusti
Scooby Regular
iTrader: (4)
 
Rusti's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2014
Location: Hampshire
Posts: 1,620
Received 157 Likes on 132 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by STI450
Like it or not the EJ257 is not a great engine unless you baby it and ensure everything is 100%. 10W60 engine oil replaced on a regular basis, engine oil temp target 85-90C under load for max longevity and coolant temps 85C, max 90C under load. The key with these engines is to not let them get overly hot. Help them breathe (intake and exhaust mods) and be sensible with boost pressures.


Frankly for the amount of money you need to spend to get these 100% reliable long term and also to get some half decent gains they just aren't worth it anymore, unless that's your kind of thing to keep throwing money at them.


Whilst people may say a Golf 7R is boring, a 7R DSG running a Stage 1 map on factory hardware will leave most Scooby's behind! Plump for a good intake, downpipe and upgraded intercooler and run 400bhp/400TQ along with a DSG remap and it's one of the quickest sleepers on the road in this category/price range.


And yes I do own a Scooby! 2008 STI Hatch that had loads spent on it by the former owner and was running 450/450.
I dont think people are saying the Golf is boring in terms of power figures, its boring because on the outside it looks like any other golf, inside its like a GTI and by all accounts numb to drive, can hear much, cant feel much feedback, just like a typical golf.

Certainly in the south they are everywhere as well, which also makes them dull.
Old 08 November 2017, 11:02 AM
  #47  
EddScott
Scooby Regular
 
EddScott's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2003
Location: West Wales
Posts: 12,573
Received 64 Likes on 32 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by lewis87
The American seem to buy plenty of STI's and they've had the 2.5 since the blobeye was introduced I think?
Americans aren't as swayed as us brits when it comes to a posh looking German interior and a flashy paddle gearbox. They're also quite loyal to a brand whereas we jump ship with the wind.

Every US review or comparison of the modern sporty-ish cars praises the STi. It might not always come first but there's a lot of love for it. There's a few where they can't decide between the Focus and the STi and one fairly decent review including the Golf R and last EVO where they rate it very highly and near enough dismiss the Golf - it does it all very well but just a bit too well so becomes numb (Had similar testing a GTR and 997 Gen 2 Turbo - GTR was quicker and more modern interior but the 997 felt like it wanted to be thrown through a hedge backward way more fun)




All times are GMT +1. The time now is 11:36 PM.