Ho ho...told you so....
27 September 2017, 03:16 PM
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I am no expert and really have no idea or really care for that matter but surely the planet warming up is also melting permafrost and so on which is releasing methane and other gasses trapped for millions of years due to decaying plants and dinosaurs which is also escalating the issue so not all of this problem is man made.
If we are causing the permafrost to melt (by AGW), then yes it would be totally man made.
27 September 2017, 03:24 PM
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The key word here being "If"
The planet was warming up and cooling down a long time before we came along, it is a natural cycle that can be confirmed by even the most rookie scientist. Or are you disputing that aswell?
maybe we might just possibly perhaps be contributing to it but do you seriously think we are responsible for it?
We produce CO2, plants breath in CO2 and breath out Oxygen, are you suggesting we are producing so much that this has gone out of balance? If so then surely we would suffocate long before we all melted due to increased temperatures.
27 September 2017, 03:29 PM
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The key word here being "If"
The planet was warming up and cooling down a long time before we came along, it is a natural cycle that can be confirmed by even the most rookie scientist. Or are you disputing that aswell?
maybe we might just possibly perhaps be contributing to it but do you seriously think we are responsible for it?
We produce CO2, plants breath in CO2 and breath out Oxygen, are you suggesting we are producing so much that this has gone out of balance? If so then surely we would suffocate long before we all melted due to increased temperatures.
The planet was warming up and cooling down a long time before we came along, it is a natural cycle that can be confirmed by even the most rookie scientist. Or are you disputing that aswell?
maybe we might just possibly perhaps be contributing to it but do you seriously think we are responsible for it?
We produce CO2, plants breath in CO2 and breath out Oxygen, are you suggesting we are producing so much that this has gone out of balance? If so then surely we would suffocate long before we all melted due to increased temperatures.
Oh god not this nonsense again!
27 September 2017, 03:32 PM
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27 September 2017, 03:40 PM
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It's the very fact that climate cycles are (very well) known that makes using them as reason why AGW isn't happening look ridiculous.
27 September 2017, 03:45 PM
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"maybe we might just possibly perhaps be contributing to it but do you seriously think we are responsible for it?"
If we are resonsible for it could someone please improve the weather in Germany so it isn't so fecking cold all the time.
Anyway my OVA file is ready so happy arguing chaps
27 September 2017, 03:53 PM
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I never said it wasn't happening, what I said was.
"maybe we might just possibly perhaps be contributing to it but do you seriously think we are responsible for it?"
If we are resonsible for it could someone please improve the weather in Germany so it isn't so fecking cold all the time.
Anyway my OVA file is ready so happy arguing chaps
"maybe we might just possibly perhaps be contributing to it but do you seriously think we are responsible for it?"
If we are resonsible for it could someone please improve the weather in Germany so it isn't so fecking cold all the time.
Anyway my OVA file is ready so happy arguing chaps
For clarity, yes the climate goes through cycles, yes solaractivity affect our climate, and yes to most other bleeding obvious things youcan think of.
Are you people really suggesting that these factors arebeing ignored by people who are experts in the field of climatology? This workis then peer reviewed, by the global scientific community, and no-one therepicks up on your GCSE hypothesis? It kind of beggars belief that you would evenconsider this an option.
27 September 2017, 04:02 PM
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For clarity, yes the climate goes through cycles, yes solaractivity affect our climate, and yes to most other bleeding obvious things youcan think of.
Are you people really suggesting that these factors arebeing ignored by people who are experts in the field of climatology? This workis then peer reviewed, by the global scientific community, and no-one therepicks up on your GCSE hypothesis? It kind of beggars belief that you would evenconsider this an option.
Here is a question for you, if North Korea detonates a hydrogen bomb under ground and the intense heat melts some ice that was trapping a billion tons of green house gasses trapped there, whose fault is it? North Koreas for melting the ice or the planets for creating the gas in the first place?
Or if a volcano errupts and spews billions of tones of greenhouse gasses trapped in the earth crust into the atmospheare, whose fault is it?
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27 September 2017, 04:05 PM
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Here is a question for you, if North Korea detonates a hydrogen bomb under ground and the intense heat melts some ice that was trapping a billion tons of green house gasses trapped there, whose fault is it? North Koreas for melting the ice or the planets for creating the gas in the first place?
Or if a volcano errupts and spews billions of tones of greenhouse gasses trapped in the earth crust into the atmospheare, whose fault is it?
Or if a volcano errupts and spews billions of tones of greenhouse gasses trapped in the earth crust into the atmospheare, whose fault is it?
I've literally no idea what you're talking about now
29 September 2017, 06:39 PM
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I am no expert and really have no idea or really care for that matter but surely the planet warming up is also melting permafrost and so on which is releasing methane and other gasses trapped for millions of years due to decaying plants and dinosaurs which is also escalating the issue so not all of this problem is man made.
simply google "climate forcings"
wow you are sounding like an idiot
google "what is the global carbon budget"
which ironically was what the original science paper was about
and the "Climates always changed" argument - amazing !!!!!!!
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