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18 February 2017, 06:20 PM
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The legality of Iraq is clearly a contentious issue and has been interpreted both ways. It will remain a hotly disputed issue.
Afghanistan was a NATO action following the triggering of article 5 of the NATO charter. Legality wasn't even a topic of debate.
Afghanistan was a NATO action following the triggering of article 5 of the NATO charter. Legality wasn't even a topic of debate.
18 February 2017, 06:43 PM
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I've often wondered whether those who were gullible enough to have voted for him at any point have felt any contrition after the event. I suppose mitigation could be put forward for 1997.
They should all get at least a custard pie in their faces.
Him, just thinking about the hypocrisy annoys me. We don't see much of George anymore, but this ****** just never stops rubbing it in.
They should all get at least a custard pie in their faces.
Him, just thinking about the hypocrisy annoys me. We don't see much of George anymore, but this ****** just never stops rubbing it in.
18 February 2017, 06:49 PM
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I've often wondered whether those who were gullible enough to have voted for him at any point have felt any contrition after the event. I suppose mitigation could be put forward for 1997.
They should all get at least a custard pie in their faces.
Him, just thinking about the hypocrisy annoys me. We don't see much of George anymore, but this ****** just never stops rubbing it in.
They should all get at least a custard pie in their faces.
Him, just thinking about the hypocrisy annoys me. We don't see much of George anymore, but this ****** just never stops rubbing it in.
Labours most successful leader in their history. 3 massive majorities.
Maybe if the Tories weren't such an utter shambles at the time things might of been different? Maybe they are the ones who should show some contrition?
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18 February 2017, 07:00 PM
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Seems somewhat back to front, but I am actually proud of the fact I can say that I never voted for that deceitful, insincere, two-faced, dishonest, manipulating, self-serving toad. I don't make a point of telling people I meet that I never voted for him in much the same way I don't tell them Thatcher got every vote I could give her either. I have no pride in having voted for her, just the conviction that my vote went to the most deserving candidate.
18 February 2017, 07:23 PM
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Seems somewhat back to front, but I am actually proud of the fact I can say that I never voted for that deceitful, insincere, two-faced, dishonest, manipulating, self-serving toad. I don't make a point of telling people I meet that I never voted for him in much the same way I don't tell them Thatcher got every vote I could give her either. I have no pride in having voted for her, just the conviction that my vote went to the most deserving candidate.
18 February 2017, 07:30 PM
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JT, the issue isn't the message, it's the messenger.
This whole thread is just one long poisonous, and at times completely irrational rant against Tony Blair.
It's the times we live in I'm afraid.
This whole thread is just one long poisonous, and at times completely irrational rant against Tony Blair.
It's the times we live in I'm afraid.
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18 February 2017, 07:45 PM
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18 February 2017, 08:04 PM
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Why?
The political establishment have kept that sponger in a job. The public would have joyfully seen the back of him long ago, making him the Middle East Peace Envoy has to be some sort of warped joke.
People don't want to hear anything from him anymore. Such that this 'message' he is currently trotting out no doubt hardens the resolve of those that voted 'out' and probably (in my case certainly) encourages many of those that voted to 'remain' to accept where we are more comfortably.
The political establishment have kept that sponger in a job. The public would have joyfully seen the back of him long ago, making him the Middle East Peace Envoy has to be some sort of warped joke.
People don't want to hear anything from him anymore. Such that this 'message' he is currently trotting out no doubt hardens the resolve of those that voted 'out' and probably (in my case certainly) encourages many of those that voted to 'remain' to accept where we are more comfortably.
18 February 2017, 08:12 PM
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Why?
The political establishment have kept that sponger in a job. The public would have joyfully seen the back of him long ago, making him the Middle East Peace Envoy has to be some sort of warped joke.
People don't want to hear anything from him anymore. Such that this 'message' he is currently trotting out no doubt hardens the resolve of those that voted 'out' and probably (in my case certainly) encourages many of those that voted to 'remain' to accept where we are more comfortably.
The political establishment have kept that sponger in a job. The public would have joyfully seen the back of him long ago, making him the Middle East Peace Envoy has to be some sort of warped joke.
People don't want to hear anything from him anymore. Such that this 'message' he is currently trotting out no doubt hardens the resolve of those that voted 'out' and probably (in my case certainly) encourages many of those that voted to 'remain' to accept where we are more comfortably.
18 February 2017, 08:15 PM
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He needs to go away.
18 February 2017, 08:17 PM
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Meanwhile Tony is playing everyone , in the hope more aggrandisement ( kerching )
( where was he during the campaign )
( where was he during the campaign )
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18 February 2017, 08:20 PM
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18 February 2017, 08:21 PM
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If I don't see him, after a while I forget about how he has and how he still is taking the p@ss out of everybody.
If he intends to keep lining his pockets, I would prefer it if he would do it off-camera and keep his head down.
Find a different messenger that is less objectionable and the message might generate a more positive response, although the ship has sailed on this one and everyone needs to get to grips with that.
If he intends to keep lining his pockets, I would prefer it if he would do it off-camera and keep his head down.
Find a different messenger that is less objectionable and the message might generate a more positive response, although the ship has sailed on this one and everyone needs to get to grips with that.
18 February 2017, 08:25 PM
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18 February 2017, 08:37 PM
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If I don't see him, after a while I forget about how he has and how he still is taking the p@ss out of everybody.
If he intends to keep lining his pockets, I would prefer it if he would do it off-camera and keep his head down.
Find a different messenger that is less objectionable and the message might generate a more positive response, although the ship has sailed on this one and everyone needs to get to grips with that.
If he intends to keep lining his pockets, I would prefer it if he would do it off-camera and keep his head down.
Find a different messenger that is less objectionable and the message might generate a more positive response, although the ship has sailed on this one and everyone needs to get to grips with that.
18 February 2017, 08:59 PM
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It's just a fact that he's Labours most successful leader.
it's also a fact that he was one of the most remarkable politicians of our time. Something even his enemies sometimes agree on.
He dragged the Labour Party to the centre, forced the Tories further to the right and smashed them in 3 general elections. Something he's really hated for by dyed in the wool Tories.
18 February 2017, 09:15 PM
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Where did I say I think the Iraq war was good. I'm not in a position to regret anything, as I wasn't the one who made the decision!
It's just a fact that he's Labours most successful leader.
it's also a fact that he was one of the most remarkable politicians of our time. Something even his enemies sometimes agree on.
He dragged the Labour Party to the centre, forced the Tories further to the right and smashed them in 3 general elections. Something he's really hated for by dyed in the wool Tories.
It's just a fact that he's Labours most successful leader.
it's also a fact that he was one of the most remarkable politicians of our time. Something even his enemies sometimes agree on.
He dragged the Labour Party to the centre, forced the Tories further to the right and smashed them in 3 general elections. Something he's really hated for by dyed in the wool Tories.
Post 35 - you have "no contrition" for voting for him?
Of course you can regret putting a person in power who DID make the decisions.
It's a FACT that he was one of the most remarkable politicians of our time!?!? What?
According to who?
18 February 2017, 11:24 PM
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Honestly,every single one of you,pro or against Blair or whoever,when or who was the last person you could really say was an honest politician with his true beliefs on behalf of a country,genuinely put forward?
I thought it was Blair once and how wrong I was.
TBH,despite his comedic appearance,I think Corbyn is genuine.Well away from my political standing,but I think he is.
Blair has just disappointed me massively.And I think he is a liar
I thought it was Blair once and how wrong I was.
TBH,despite his comedic appearance,I think Corbyn is genuine.Well away from my political standing,but I think he is.
Blair has just disappointed me massively.And I think he is a liar
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18 February 2017, 11:31 PM
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I realise you're intellectually challenged, but, even by your lofty standards, you're being a bit daft here. Read the first page of this thread; Alcazar and Paben have stated they don't agree with the content of the lying rat's speech. scunnered strongly implied he doesn't agree with it. I don't agree with it. Almost all Leave voters will disagree with it; they don't have to explicitly state it - it's obvious.
Comprende, sweet cheeks?
Comprende, sweet cheeks?