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Old Sep 14, 2019 | 11:18 AM
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Nobody likes Nige except Nige and his gang. Everyone else reconginises him as the 'orrible little opportunist that he is.

A smart bloke trading on the ignorance of others...karma will f**k him in the face at some point.

make no mistake, like him or loath him, in a GE right now he and his party would get alot of votes.
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Old Sep 14, 2019 | 11:25 AM
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make no mistake, like him or loath him, in a GE right now he and his party would get alot of votes.

Disagree; this is what everyone said last time...and what happened?
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Old Sep 14, 2019 | 01:50 PM
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Originally Posted by trails
Disagree; this is what everyone said last time...and what happened?
did you not see the local election result? that is far more relevant to the cuirrent situation
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Old Sep 14, 2019 | 03:10 PM
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Originally Posted by Tidgy
did you not see the local election result? that is far more relevant to the cuirrent situation
Local Council elections are entirely different to the GE.

Look at the UKIP results a few years back; they won council seats but nowt in the GE.
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Old Sep 16, 2019 | 11:47 AM
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I suspect a GE now will just result in a hung parliament, so unless HM The Queen invites Labour plus whoever to form a coalition, we will be in exactly the same mess we are in at the moment. I suspect he only real viable options are revoke or no deal, one of those will cause huge unrest, the other will ruin the economy, what a choice!
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I suspect a GE now will just result in a hung parliament, so unless HM The Queen invites Labour plus whoever to form a coalition, we will be in exactly the same mess we are in at the moment. I suspect he only real viable options are revoke or no deal, one of those will cause huge unrest, the other will ruin the economy, what a choice!
The only pragmatic approach given where we are is another referendum...I can't see what the leave camp have to fear if they have the support they believe they do.

Rioting in the streets no matter which way it goes though. Probably
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Old Sep 16, 2019 | 12:41 PM
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Originally Posted by trails
Local Council elections are entirely different to the GE.

Look at the UKIP results a few years back; they won council seats but nowt in the GE.
was a very very different political landscape back then
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Old Sep 16, 2019 | 12:44 PM
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Originally Posted by Tidgy
was a very very different political landscape back then
Nah, exactly the same...the same people even making the same noises!
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Old Sep 16, 2019 | 12:50 PM
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Originally Posted by trails
Nah, exactly the same...the same people even making the same noises!
only one way we'd find out. but that aint gonna happen lol
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Old Sep 16, 2019 | 12:57 PM
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Originally Posted by Tidgy
only one way we'd find out. but that aint gonna happen lol
Other that Boris talking BS I'm really unsure as to what is going to happen...lets see how good a strategist Cummings really is.
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Old Sep 16, 2019 | 01:00 PM
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Originally Posted by trails
Other that Boris talking BS I'm really unsure as to what is going to happen...lets see how good a strategist Cummings really is.
my money is on no deal, but i wouldnt put much on it right now lol
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It says in the news today that Boris won't accept an offer from the EU. Is this the loophole he is looking for, that although Parliament has forced him to ask for an extension if no deal is agreed, the wording of the bill is such that it does not explicitly state he has to accept the offer of an extension if the EU agrees to his demands?
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Originally Posted by Mr Fuji
It says in the news today that Boris won't accept an offer from the EU. Is this the loophole he is looking for, that although Parliament has forced him to ask for an extension if no deal is agreed, the wording of the bill is such that it does not explicitly state he has to accept the offer of an extension if the EU agrees to his demands?
there is gonna be legal wranglings no mater what happens.
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Old Sep 16, 2019 | 01:07 PM
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Originally Posted by Tidgy
my money is on no deal, but i wouldnt put much on it right now lol
If you are right then we are all gonna get fooked in the face for the next few years
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Originally Posted by Mr Fuji
It says in the news today that Boris won't accept an offer from the EU. Is this the loophole he is looking for, that although Parliament has forced him to ask for an extension if no deal is agreed, the wording of the bill is such that it does not explicitly state he has to accept the offer of an extension if the EU agrees to his demands?
Gawd knows...back top Cummings and his alleged planet sized brain I guess?
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Old Sep 16, 2019 | 01:13 PM
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Originally Posted by trails
If you are right then we are all gonna get fooked in the face for the next few years
i was watching an interview with david davies a couple of days ago, he has a very different opinion even in the event of a no deal. short version the negatives have been massively over egged.
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Old Sep 16, 2019 | 01:18 PM
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Originally Posted by Tidgy
i was watching an interview with david davies a couple of days ago, he has a very different opinion even in the event of a no deal. short version the negatives have been massively over egged.
It's all unknown Tidgy, nobody knows how negative the negatives are so it's all anecdotes. The only the facts are we lose trade deals...
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Old Sep 16, 2019 | 01:19 PM
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It's all going to be decided by lawyers from what I can see , and who's is best
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Old Sep 16, 2019 | 01:21 PM
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Originally Posted by trails
It's all unknown Tidgy, nobody knows how negative the negatives are so it's all anecdotes. The only the facts are we lose trade deals...

yep, verr much unknown. however it isn't going to be anywhere near as bad as was being made out. We keep being told leave lied, but then we've had nothing but lies from remain since saying how bad things will be etc etc etc

https://www.lbc.co.uk/radio/presente...t-really-like/
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Originally Posted by dpb
It's all going to be decided by lawyers from what I can see , and who's is best
'who knows loopholes the best'

is prob more accurate.
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Originally Posted by Tidgy
yep, verr much unknown. however it isn't going to be anywhere near as bad as was being made out. We keep being told leave lied, but then we've had nothing but lies from remain since saying how bad things will be etc etc etc

https://www.lbc.co.uk/radio/presente...t-really-like/
Come on man, that's just logistics...that will get worked out. Trade deals on the other hand...?
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Originally Posted by trails
Come on man, that's just logistics...that will get worked out. Trade deals on the other hand...?
Time will tell, sounds like stuff we buy will get cheaper though
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Old Sep 16, 2019 | 02:06 PM
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Originally Posted by Tidgy
Time will tell, sounds like stuff we buy will get cheaper though
No idea...and nobody else really has either, its all just guess work but you can be sure as hell there will be no net gain for the populous at large for a number of years and it may never offset the immediate impact. Except of course if you are rich...
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Old Sep 16, 2019 | 03:33 PM
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Originally Posted by Tidgy
Time will tell, sounds like stuff we buy will get cheaper though
Not sure I follow that logic? If we go with no deal, we revert to WTO, which is increased tarriffs on EU goods? Have I missed something?
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Well Nothing much happening in Luxemburg....

No doubt we'll be told there's an incredible amount action behind the scenes, again lol
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Originally Posted by Mr Fuji
Not sure I follow that logic? If we go with no deal, we revert to WTO, which is increased tarriffs on EU goods? Have I missed something?
Chlorinated chicken and rip off Chinese goods are gonna be well cheap though
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Originally Posted by trails
Chlorinated chicken and rip off Chinese goods are gonna be well cheap though
What a fantastic place the UK is going to be to live
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Originally Posted by Mr Fuji
What a fantastic place the UK is going to be to live
Taking back control in the moat spectacular manner...it's gonna be great
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Old Sep 16, 2019 | 03:49 PM
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Originally Posted by Mr Fuji
Not sure I follow that logic? If we go with no deal, we revert to WTO, which is increased tarriffs on EU goods? Have I missed something?
tarrifs go the other way lol

the uk gov has already said its reducing tariffs on more goods than the eu currently does
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Originally Posted by Tidgy
tarrifs go the other way lol

the uk gov has already said its reducing tariffs on more goods than the eu currently does
This doesn't make any sense at all. No deal means WTO rules, which we have to abide by as a member of the WTO, no favourites, no exemptions, so all of our trade will have the same tariff. If you are saying that we will unilaterally reduce our tariffs across the whole shooting match, and at the same time hoping the world will do the same to us, then that seems rather optimistic. Sure we will potentially have very cheap imports, but will have no power over our exports, our economy will be at the mercy of foreign countries, our industry (what is left of it) will be out competed by cheap imports!
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