Will Trump Bottle It?
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He is! He's a cry baby who's finding excuses to blame others for his own self-sabotaging. Wait for the day he loses. The loser will cry more, blame everyone else and take his ball home (copyright Hodgy 
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One thing I must say that Hilary did look much slower (physically) in her second debate, which was a bit concerning. I know that idiot Trump puts her down by saying that she doesn't have stamina to run the country etc. His latest claim to defame her is that she was on drugs in the second debate. I don't know whether he means prescribed ones, self-prescribed or recreational ones. Whether she was on any drugs or not, she didn't look as healthy. Apparently she hasn't been out much since then and keeping a low profile. I wonder if she is in good health.
) One thing I must say that Hilary did look much slower (physically) in her second debate, which was a bit concerning. I know that idiot Trump puts her down by saying that she doesn't have stamina to run the country etc. His latest claim to defame her is that she was on drugs in the second debate. I don't know whether he means prescribed ones, self-prescribed or recreational ones. Whether she was on any drugs or not, she didn't look as healthy. Apparently she hasn't been out much since then and keeping a low profile. I wonder if she is in good health.
Originally Posted by David Lock
Heard Mrs Trump murdering the English language as she described her hubby's words about women as wholly "unappropriate" 
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When all's said and done, they're actually having the time of their lives
https://youtu.be/R8Wde1fFvPg
https://youtu.be/R8Wde1fFvPg
That's quite good. None the less i see he's taken a lesson from his mate Nigels book, if i don't win it's all a fix.
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Hillary Clinton has been proved to be a compulsive liar . For that reason alone she should not be president .
Okay all politicians lie so maybe it isnt important
Dead Broke – In an interview, Clinton stated that she “came out of the White House not only dead broke, but in debt.” Something even the left-leaning Politifact found to be false.
Sniper Fire – During the 2008 campaign, Clinton said she came under sniper fire in Bosnia during the ’90s. She went so far as to claim her group ran “with our heads down to get into the vehicles to get to our base.” Video of her actual arrival surfaced showing a very calm scene instead, and the Democrat would quickly say she simply misspoke.
Immigrant Grandparents – When discussing immigrant stories, Clinton asserted that “all my grandparents… came over here.” It was another story Politifact said was false, as only one of her grandparents was an immigrant.
Sir Edmund Hillary – Seems Clinton can’t even bring herself to tell the truth about her own name. She claimed to be named after Sir Edmund Hillary, one of the first men to climb Mt. Everest. One small problem though, the explorer didn’t climb Everest until Clinton was 6 years old.
The Few, The Proud, The Marines – Very recently, Clinton claimed to have been turned down by the Marines when she applied in 1975. Washington Post fact-checkers quickly realized the absurdity that a rising legal star at the time, and soon to be wife of Bill Clinton, would drop everything and ship off with the Marines. They gave her a couple of Pinocchios for her tall tale.
Secret E-Mails – Former Secretary of State Clinton claimed her infamous private e-mail server was set up in “accordance with the rules and the regulations in effect.” A federal judge disagreed, saying Clinton “violated government policy” when she used a private server to store official State Department messages.
Benghazi – Clearly the most reprehensible lie of them all – Clinton failed to tell the truth about a terrorist attack that killed four Americans in Benghazi. She claimed for weeks, standing over the flag-draped coffins of murdered Americans, that an insensitive YouTube video had incited the violence that occurred that night. Why? Because a terrorist attack on the anniversary of 9/11 – which it was – would have destroyed President Obama’s re-election chances. But hey, at the end of the day it’s worth it to Clinton to tell a politically expedient lie, so long as her party can stay in power.
After all, what difference does it make
Okay all politicians lie so maybe it isnt important
Dead Broke – In an interview, Clinton stated that she “came out of the White House not only dead broke, but in debt.” Something even the left-leaning Politifact found to be false.
Sniper Fire – During the 2008 campaign, Clinton said she came under sniper fire in Bosnia during the ’90s. She went so far as to claim her group ran “with our heads down to get into the vehicles to get to our base.” Video of her actual arrival surfaced showing a very calm scene instead, and the Democrat would quickly say she simply misspoke.
Immigrant Grandparents – When discussing immigrant stories, Clinton asserted that “all my grandparents… came over here.” It was another story Politifact said was false, as only one of her grandparents was an immigrant.
Sir Edmund Hillary – Seems Clinton can’t even bring herself to tell the truth about her own name. She claimed to be named after Sir Edmund Hillary, one of the first men to climb Mt. Everest. One small problem though, the explorer didn’t climb Everest until Clinton was 6 years old.
The Few, The Proud, The Marines – Very recently, Clinton claimed to have been turned down by the Marines when she applied in 1975. Washington Post fact-checkers quickly realized the absurdity that a rising legal star at the time, and soon to be wife of Bill Clinton, would drop everything and ship off with the Marines. They gave her a couple of Pinocchios for her tall tale.
Secret E-Mails – Former Secretary of State Clinton claimed her infamous private e-mail server was set up in “accordance with the rules and the regulations in effect.” A federal judge disagreed, saying Clinton “violated government policy” when she used a private server to store official State Department messages.
Benghazi – Clearly the most reprehensible lie of them all – Clinton failed to tell the truth about a terrorist attack that killed four Americans in Benghazi. She claimed for weeks, standing over the flag-draped coffins of murdered Americans, that an insensitive YouTube video had incited the violence that occurred that night. Why? Because a terrorist attack on the anniversary of 9/11 – which it was – would have destroyed President Obama’s re-election chances. But hey, at the end of the day it’s worth it to Clinton to tell a politically expedient lie, so long as her party can stay in power.
After all, what difference does it make
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The Few, The Proud, The Marines – Very recently, Clinton claimed to have been turned down by the Marines when she applied in 1975. Washington Post fact-checkers quickly realized the absurdity that a rising legal star at the time, and soon to be wife of Bill Clinton, would drop everything and ship off with the Marines. They gave her a couple of Pinocchios for her tall tale.
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Hillary Clinton has been proved to be a compulsive liar . For that reason alone she should not be president .
Okay all politicians lie so maybe it isnt important
Dead Broke – In an interview, Clinton stated that she “came out of the White House not only dead broke, but in debt.” Something even the left-leaning Politifact found to be false.
Sniper Fire – During the 2008 campaign, Clinton said she came under sniper fire in Bosnia during the ’90s. She went so far as to claim her group ran “with our heads down to get into the vehicles to get to our base.” Video of her actual arrival surfaced showing a very calm scene instead, and the Democrat would quickly say she simply misspoke.
Immigrant Grandparents – When discussing immigrant stories, Clinton asserted that “all my grandparents… came over here.” It was another story Politifact said was false, as only one of her grandparents was an immigrant.
Sir Edmund Hillary – Seems Clinton can’t even bring herself to tell the truth about her own name. She claimed to be named after Sir Edmund Hillary, one of the first men to climb Mt. Everest. One small problem though, the explorer didn’t climb Everest until Clinton was 6 years old.
The Few, The Proud, The Marines – Very recently, Clinton claimed to have been turned down by the Marines when she applied in 1975. Washington Post fact-checkers quickly realized the absurdity that a rising legal star at the time, and soon to be wife of Bill Clinton, would drop everything and ship off with the Marines. They gave her a couple of Pinocchios for her tall tale.
Secret E-Mails – Former Secretary of State Clinton claimed her infamous private e-mail server was set up in “accordance with the rules and the regulations in effect.” A federal judge disagreed, saying Clinton “violated government policy” when she used a private server to store official State Department messages.
Benghazi – Clearly the most reprehensible lie of them all – Clinton failed to tell the truth about a terrorist attack that killed four Americans in Benghazi. She claimed for weeks, standing over the flag-draped coffins of murdered Americans, that an insensitive YouTube video had incited the violence that occurred that night. Why? Because a terrorist attack on the anniversary of 9/11 – which it was – would have destroyed President Obama’s re-election chances. But hey, at the end of the day it’s worth it to Clinton to tell a politically expedient lie, so long as her party can stay in power.
After all, what difference does it make
Okay all politicians lie so maybe it isnt important
Dead Broke – In an interview, Clinton stated that she “came out of the White House not only dead broke, but in debt.” Something even the left-leaning Politifact found to be false.
Sniper Fire – During the 2008 campaign, Clinton said she came under sniper fire in Bosnia during the ’90s. She went so far as to claim her group ran “with our heads down to get into the vehicles to get to our base.” Video of her actual arrival surfaced showing a very calm scene instead, and the Democrat would quickly say she simply misspoke.
Immigrant Grandparents – When discussing immigrant stories, Clinton asserted that “all my grandparents… came over here.” It was another story Politifact said was false, as only one of her grandparents was an immigrant.
Sir Edmund Hillary – Seems Clinton can’t even bring herself to tell the truth about her own name. She claimed to be named after Sir Edmund Hillary, one of the first men to climb Mt. Everest. One small problem though, the explorer didn’t climb Everest until Clinton was 6 years old.
The Few, The Proud, The Marines – Very recently, Clinton claimed to have been turned down by the Marines when she applied in 1975. Washington Post fact-checkers quickly realized the absurdity that a rising legal star at the time, and soon to be wife of Bill Clinton, would drop everything and ship off with the Marines. They gave her a couple of Pinocchios for her tall tale.
Secret E-Mails – Former Secretary of State Clinton claimed her infamous private e-mail server was set up in “accordance with the rules and the regulations in effect.” A federal judge disagreed, saying Clinton “violated government policy” when she used a private server to store official State Department messages.
Benghazi – Clearly the most reprehensible lie of them all – Clinton failed to tell the truth about a terrorist attack that killed four Americans in Benghazi. She claimed for weeks, standing over the flag-draped coffins of murdered Americans, that an insensitive YouTube video had incited the violence that occurred that night. Why? Because a terrorist attack on the anniversary of 9/11 – which it was – would have destroyed President Obama’s re-election chances. But hey, at the end of the day it’s worth it to Clinton to tell a politically expedient lie, so long as her party can stay in power.
After all, what difference does it make
quote the source (and link to it)
and lets go through it
btw I am sure some are lies or exaggerations at least, but lets examine them claim by claim
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I heard on the radio that Hilary has actually been very busy, rehearsing 24/7 for tonight's Fight Night behind her closed doors.
Not sure if the two will shake hands with each other at the opening, or leave it out again. The sure thing is that Hilary will grin as usual, wave and point her friendly finger out at some random audience folk that she has never seen or ever known in her entire life, and the cry baby will throw his weight around again. He's supposed to flash his trump card i.e. Obama's Republican half brother, who's being planted in the audience. I doubt if that'd help turn the table.
However, pop corn time.
Not sure if the two will shake hands with each other at the opening, or leave it out again. The sure thing is that Hilary will grin as usual, wave and point her friendly finger out at some random audience folk that she has never seen or ever known in her entire life, and the cry baby will throw his weight around again. He's supposed to flash his trump card i.e. Obama's Republican half brother, who's being planted in the audience. I doubt if that'd help turn the table.
However, pop corn time.
https://www.google.co.uk/url?sa=t&so...HT-HpEs3uZuZ9w
I suppose i need to find proof that she wasnt actually in debt and dead broke lol
Perhaps not an outright lie but clearly talking ****e to try and put herself on the same level as the average person
She is quoted to have said she regrets saying it and that ut was in-artful !
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Start at the start .
https://www.google.co.uk/url?sa=t&so...HT-HpEs3uZuZ9w
I suppose i need to find proof that she wasnt actually in debt and dead broke lol
Perhaps not an outright lie but clearly talking ****e to try and put herself on the same level as the average person
She is quoted to have said she regrets saying it and that ut was in-artful !
https://www.google.co.uk/url?sa=t&so...HT-HpEs3uZuZ9w
I suppose i need to find proof that she wasnt actually in debt and dead broke lol
Perhaps not an outright lie but clearly talking ****e to try and put herself on the same level as the average person
She is quoted to have said she regrets saying it and that ut was in-artful !
conspiracy !!!!! ;-)
Didnt take you long to go to that level hodgy
The first link was supposed to be the interview where she comments on how they were dead broke and in debt .
What part of it do you not believe
Got it this time .
The first link was supposed to be the interview where she comments on how they were dead broke and in debt .
What part of it do you not believe
Got it this time .
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but I will watch it
although is seems to hinge on the term "dead broke"
can you tell me how much money Trump would have to be down to - to consider himself "dead broke"
1 million, 10 million, 50 million in the bank?
how much Gary?
what would you say if I said I could not survive on less that 120K a year - and would be "dead broke" if I had to do so
although is seems to hinge on the term "dead broke"
can you tell me how much money Trump would have to be down to - to consider himself "dead broke"
1 million, 10 million, 50 million in the bank?
how much Gary?
what would you say if I said I could not survive on less that 120K a year - and would be "dead broke" if I had to do so
Last edited by hodgy0_2; Oct 19, 2016 at 10:11 PM.
Im calm . Perhaps the conspiracy thing wasnt aimed directly at me but it usually is .
Anyway. What are your thoughts on the first "lie" technically its not a lie but can someone that is dead broke and in debt (in the normal understanding of those claims) be able to get a mortgage of 1 million dollars ?
Anyway. What are your thoughts on the first "lie" technically its not a lie but can someone that is dead broke and in debt (in the normal understanding of those claims) be able to get a mortgage of 1 million dollars ?
but I will watch it
although is seems to hinge on the term "dead broke"
can you tell me how much money Trump would have to be down to - to consider himself "dead broke"
1 million, 10 million, 50 million in the bank?
how much Gary?
what would you say it I said I could not survive on less that 120K a year - and would be "dead broke"
although is seems to hinge on the term "dead broke"
can you tell me how much money Trump would have to be down to - to consider himself "dead broke"
1 million, 10 million, 50 million in the bank?
how much Gary?
what would you say it I said I could not survive on less that 120K a year - and would be "dead broke"
The point is why would she make that claim ? I believe it was with the aim of trying to be relatable to the average person. But really it was her talking ****e
It was a rediculous claim im my opinion considering the amount of money they would be capable of earning in a very short time. At least one mortgage lender agrees considering the lent them 1 million dollars at the time
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okay alongside Cameron, Osborne, and Keith Vaz et all
Politicians - who Knew
shall we move on to the next claim
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The claim is she said she was dead broke . And in debt. Their is no doubt she said it.
Regardless of what anybody considers the point they are dead broke is irelevant to me . The point is that they could easly earn huge amounts of money and did so in a very short time .
I find it a rediculous claim for her to make and
Id give it at least a 6 out of 10 for talking ****e for effect
Regardless of what anybody considers the point they are dead broke is irelevant to me . The point is that they could easly earn huge amounts of money and did so in a very short time .
I find it a rediculous claim for her to make and
Id give it at least a 6 out of 10 for talking ****e for effect
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Round 2
Sniper Fire – During the 2008 campaign, Clinton said she came under sniper fire in Bosnia during the ’90s. She went so far as to claim her group ran “with our heads down to get into the vehicles to get to our base.” Video of her actual arrival surfaced showing a very calm scene instead, and the Democrat would quickly say she simply misspoke.
Sniper Fire – During the 2008 campaign, Clinton said she came under sniper fire in Bosnia during the ’90s. She went so far as to claim her group ran “with our heads down to get into the vehicles to get to our base.” Video of her actual arrival surfaced showing a very calm scene instead, and the Democrat would quickly say she simply misspoke.
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well I am not going to argue it tbh
it seems a pretty trivial point
they had no money, but had earning potential
okay lets move on - next claim
edit - this is a reference to the "dead broke claim"
not round 2
it seems a pretty trivial point
they had no money, but had earning potential
okay lets move on - next claim
edit - this is a reference to the "dead broke claim"
not round 2
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Round 2
Sniper Fire – During the 2008 campaign, Clinton said she came under sniper fire in Bosnia during the ’90s. She went so far as to claim her group ran “with our heads down to get into the vehicles to get to our base.” Video of her actual arrival surfaced showing a very calm scene instead, and the Democrat would quickly say she simply misspoke.
Sniper Fire – During the 2008 campaign, Clinton said she came under sniper fire in Bosnia during the ’90s. She went so far as to claim her group ran “with our heads down to get into the vehicles to get to our base.” Video of her actual arrival surfaced showing a very calm scene instead, and the Democrat would quickly say she simply misspoke.
