RS_Matt

you'll be able to change the catted uppipe to an STi one or aftermarket one without the need to map, it's a good mod that brings the turbo on 200rpm sooner and on mine added a slight growl to the exhaust note at around 4k, it also prevents an ageing catalytic converter going through the turbo or worse (though rare). Panel filter won't need mapping either.

This probably varies from car to car but my car uses a lot of oil when I run 10/40 but barely any when using 10/50, the car seems noticeably quicker with the thinner grade, so deffo monitor oil levels religiously until you get used to the depletion rate.

Sirspidey

Where is the best place to buy an up cat, filers, silicone y piece, fuel,pump etc?

Sirspidey

Well, I spoken to the current owner of the wrx and he tells me it has the prodrive exhaust and it has the prodrive silicone hoses. It also has ppp wrote in pen buy the ecu, but he feels that the ecu has not been remapped and there is no record of this. Should I buy the car, should I change the down cat to a sports cat before re mapping or continue with changing the up pipe? I'm not looking at getting 300+ bhp, but getting it above std would be nice.

Thanks for any advice

domino46

Wouldn't listen to ****-matt about how fast his Wrx is as he has been chatting ****e about it for ages on here and clearly has Sti envy or he wouldn't be posting about it being being faster than one in every other post

You could find more knowledge about subarus looking at the back of a Kellogg's box than what he spouts

LoganS

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Have a read of this for. 2 litre

http://www.racedynamix.co.uk/remap/subaru-remapping/typical-upgrade-path-newage-2-0-wrx/

Or this for a 2.5 litre

http://www.racedynamix.co.uk/remap/subaru-remapping/typical-upgrade-path-hawkeye-2-5-wrx/

LoganS

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He Might be faster then a standard STI but how much work has he had done to get it there?

Either way a wrx is still a fun capable car, and you can still modify them to get more if you want it.

LoganS

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Probably worth speaking to you chosen mapper and ask what brand parts they recommend.

domino46

Not knocking the Wrx as owned quite a few over the years and my main project car started life as a Wrx (blob) and owned it for 10+ years and is now being built into a Wrc spec Scoob with all the trimmings so I get what your saying 100% as a car is only what you make it but anyone that keep on about how much better there Wrx is compared to a STI clearly has issues

LoganS

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Agree

Ste333

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I had a WRX Wagon (2003) and it was a great car for the money. Super reliable, grippy, half sensible economy, practical. And with some basic mods on the original turbo, was mapped to 270-280bhp making it a great daily. I've got an STI now, but I definitely wouldn't knock the humble WRX, they're brilliant things. Especially if coming from a non-Subaru background.

Sirspidey

Thanks guys. I'm have great conversations with my mapper, who has been very helpful. If I decide to do any mods, I think I will decat the centre section and up pipe, change air filter, spark plugs, fuel filter and then remap. Think that's as for as I would like to take it. I'm not a racer anymore, been there 20 years ago, but I would like it to be a bit better that standard and maybe some where close to 300 bhp. Are these ok mods to do?

Many thanks for all the advise.

Ps the main reason I don't like the sti is the rear spoiler. Now I'm older I'd like a car that 'blends in' but has some hidden gems lol. The sti just screams ' look at me, I'm faster than you!'

Ste333

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if you get a WRX you'll only make it to about 280ish bhp tops on a TD04/L turbo. (which comes standard) but that is more than quick enough to humble some other cars on the road

As people have said, if you dont like the spoiler, you could either remove it, or get a spec D bootlid/spoiler which is a much lower lip type spoiler.

Sirspidey

280 bhp is plenty for me. If I could get it to 260 I'd be very happy. Like I said I just want to do a small amount to have it just up from standard.
Thanks

Ste333

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well if you buy a car with PPP then you won't be far off the mark straight away, 240-250bhp probably. The Prodrive exhaust that comes with the PPP pack makes a nice subtle rumble too

RS_Matt

Faster over better tbh, but continually and arbitrarily telling people that the WRX is sh*t and the STi is streets ahead is no help to someone who is set on buying a WRX.

There's no hiding from the fact the WRX is lighter, more efficient and has cheaper parts, this brings many benefits both from an economic and acceleration view point. The STi is stronger, more suited to sustained race speeds out of the box, and has an exclusivity within the community you won't ever get from owning a WRX.

I used to feel sad when I got the WRX, took to forums and realised I'd never be able to go beyond 360/350 without forging and swapping the box, reading about 450bhp STi's used to get me on a downer.

My car was just a WRX PPP when I first got it. It was noticeably faster than my EVO 4, I raced it, I beat it, I beat cars the Evo could not. I left a mates 380bhp Evo 5, I left classic subarus from the lights big time. I realised I had to get it rolling roaded!!!! I took it to AET and it was only 240bhp

I still wasn't happy with the lack of pace over 60mph so I had it mapped to 280bhp, soon after I nearly hit the back of an Audi RS4 that launched out of a junction in front of me due to sheer acceleration. (car still full weight at this point.) TBF the Audi, like many other opponents pulled away big time at 80mph. I took it drag racing from this point to back up my "wild tales", my launches were fast, I could see why I caught a 0-60 in 4.6 seconds RS4, but again top end was killing the car so I invested in a turbo that would pull hard to the redline.

I realised at this point a WRX doesn't need forging, strong 6 speeds, front mounts, big cone filters, heavy duty clutches and 450bhp, and the STi evny (if any) abated. ....and after many years of ridicule/snobbery I let the STi crew know.

The car now stands at 333/307, has headroom for more and is recording times that I'm struggling to convince people on even with strong evidence!!!! On MLR they say the times aren't possible with my power levels, plenty of lads on here still won't accept my wheelspinning 0-60mph time of 3.8 secs.

People do say 'Matt has done a lot to his car, it's not a WRX' but for an Evo 6 to soar past me at the Traffic Light Grand Prix it will have needed more doing! I have scoured the net to see which 330bhp JDM 4x4 cars have posted similar times to mine and they are few and far between, the early evo's and some lighter classics are just edging me.

RS_Matt

Bustamoves once made over 300bhp on a TD04, the progress thread was on a forum long gone but you could PM him what he did. I saw his WRX takeoff and it was impressive, crackled between gearchange.

Ste333

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That is the most laughable paragraph I've read in quite some time. I've had both standard and PPP WRX's. And I've had a 300bhp Evo 4, and been out in a friends 376bhp Evo 6.

A 240bhp WRX is never going to "leave" a 380bhp Evo 5 if he's actually trying. A standard Evo 4 GSR would comfortably destroy a PPP WRX. Fact.
I don't want to clutter this poor blokes thread with an argument about it, but that is just absolute nonsense. And not really relevant to the OP who states as well he's not interested in boy racing and traffic light GP's

Sirspidey

Ok thanks for posts that have aided me in my choice. To the ones that are intent on saying anything other than an sti is not worth it - first sti, what else does that stand for? And I wouldn't want on of those lol. Now I guess most of you are in your 20's and 30's?, when I was in that age group wrx and sti' we're brand new. So we couldn't afford them. Always wanted one, but could only dream. We raced around in things from 1.3 astra's to (for me) 309 gti's. Had great fun. And at the time if a car went passed me I saw the red mist and did what ever was needed to overtake, sometime indangering life. Since growing up, my racing days are long over and I've have learnt to respect any car that is quick than what I have (crappy diesel car now), but if I have a wrx and an sti comes along side, first I wouldn't even bother racing and second I would give it respect. Something you young guys will learn. Also to say unless it's an sti is not worth it is rubbish, surely once a scooby fan any scooby is 'worth it'? I do t have £10-£15k to play with, I've never had money and I've just had a small win fall. So I'm looking at what I have and will make the best of it! Also saying a wrx is crap unless it's an sti is just disrespectful to wrx drivers, let's face it without one could the other be possible???
For those of you who have not read all the thread, I'll say it again. I'm a scooby fan, I'd be happy with just a 2.0 sport, but I have a few grand so why not get a wrx. I wanted a hawkeye, but with the reported engine problem I'll give it a miss. I wanted as new as I could get, so a 55 plate wrx is what it is. Very happy with choice and the advice I've used to get me there. Also I would just like a standard car with a couple mods to take it just above standard.

Ste333

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Get an 05 or 55 plate Blobeye WRX mate, you'll love it. Get an "SL" model if you can as well - optional sunroof and leather

RS_Matt

Stay true to your guns mate. Like I say this is a very STi leaning forum, other balanced Scoob forums I'm on accept the WRX stats and claims.

You'll not go wrong with a WRX, but what both the STi boys and I do agree on is the WRX brakes do need uprating at any power level!
I was getting bad fade after just 3 miles at 240bhp, it was cured with braided brake hoses and 5.1 brake fluid. Bite was still crap though and that has been sorted with DS2500 pads and grooved disks. I'm glad it worked as stepping up to STi Brembos meant going from 6.8kg per disk to a whopping 11.5kg!

LoganS

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That's the right attitude, sorry your advice thread has turned into yet another pissing match.

You will genuinely enjoy a wrx and it will bring a smile to your face.

I use mine on track with nothing to prove to anyone but me, I have made some changes that I feel improve mine, but im still enjoying ppp power (dynod at 259bhp) which is plenty for now.

Sirspidey

Thanks. Sorry for my rant, but a couple of posts here nearly put me of getting one. Nearly went for a focus st or similar, but I love scobbies.
Ideally I'll get a ppp, but this car he is bring it to my area to view, it look how I want it and low mileage. Also I can make the mods I want, if any. I love the blue colour that most are, but it does say ' look at me, I've git a scooby' whereas I want to blend in. One think I hate is boy who have small engine cars and they kit the out to look fast with big bite exhausts - what the point. In my eyes it better to have a fast ish car that doesn't stand out as one. Gives a great surprise to people.

Ash Webster

no-one likes ricers, trust me!

The Trooper 1815

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Or buy a JDM WRX Newage with 250 as standard

The Trooper 1815

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My old car.

https://www.scoobynet.com/subaru-444...dm-newage.html

Ste333

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yes, or that

RS_Matt

This is mine, (ignore the reg plate, it's photoshopped) I'd like to replace the rear spoiler for a lip for a cleaner look but the wife won't let me as it's her car too. Stickers on scoobs don't really bother me but classic boot spoilers on a Newage or black bonnet vents and door handles etc on a non-black scoob look a bugger imo.

VTA Dump valves are a contentious area too on here! I have listened and mine won't vent around town due to stiffer spring rate!

DaveGB270

Mine is up for sale....Saw this car on Auto Trader’s Android App. Thought you might be interested. http://www.autotrader.co.uk/classifi...01606255259139

Sirspidey

Nice car but it's a hawkeye, didn't want one due to head gasket probs,,and too much money for me. Is it yours? If not haw much is your?

Rs_matt nice looking car

DaveGB270

Head gasket problems lol? What scaremongerers you been listening to? That is mine.