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Old Apr 28, 2016 | 01:43 PM
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My lunch Left over Chinese from last night

Farming will burn that off no problem, semi-retired office chair dwellers not so much.
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Old Apr 28, 2016 | 01:57 PM
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I can see the logic Mart diet - you don't nee the calories before bedtime

I reckon he must commute between his lounge and home office however
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Old Apr 28, 2016 | 05:51 PM
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Lots of empty carbs there Jack?
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Old Apr 28, 2016 | 06:09 PM
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Originally Posted by alcazar
Lots of empty carbs there Jack?
Definitely need to work on my carb game. I don't notice it right now as I only go out for an hour maybe two but I'll suffer later as I increase my range.
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Old Apr 28, 2016 | 07:21 PM
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I've watched some stuff that said to avoid potatoes, white bread and white rice, as empty carbs, which the body stores as fat.

I've tried to eat wholemeal bread, seed bread etc, brown rice, and so far, one baked potato. Not had noodles yet, but I do quite like super-noodles, LOL.
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Old Apr 28, 2016 | 10:57 PM
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Originally Posted by dpb
I'm a bit surprised you had energy to do anything at all Mart, that's 600 cals a day net !
Indeed, but the remaining 1800 are coming from the fat store i'm carrying around my middle


I;m not saying its perfect, but it works for me.


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Old Apr 29, 2016 | 09:44 AM
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Went again last night, up to two a week now.

Last night was five squats, five leg lifts and five press-ups, per minute, repeated for twenty minutes. I broke sweat this time, but wasn't gasping.

We always warm up and warm down too, the jogging makes my heart rate go up a bit

Still only lost 4lb.
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Old Apr 29, 2016 | 09:55 AM
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My weight and body fat spiked over Christmas last year, heavier than I've ever been despite quite an intense regimen of exercise (running 2-3 times a week; biking/ spinning 2-3 times a week burning 5k-6k calories a week through exercise alone). At 6'1", my weight was around 78kg and body fat was about 18%


I changed my diet moderately, I cut out the biscuits and doughnuts that were 3-4 times a week and replaced them with having a proper cereal breakfast every day (I was a serial cereal skipper).


I've also included early morning swimming in the regimen, 2-3 times a week covering 80x25m and kept up with the running and biking.


Weight is now down and holding around 71kg-72kg, body fat seems pretty stable at around 8%, the downside is I'm permanently hungry and always cold! It's a double edged sword I guess...


You've got to go in for the long term Alcazar, the day on day comparison is affected by what you eat the day before. Stuff yourself with a bucket of KFC and you'll see your weight and body fat rocket the following day, equally if you starve yourself then your body will go into a conservation mode and you won't lose much either.
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Old Apr 29, 2016 | 11:28 AM
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Originally Posted by SJ_Skyline
My weight and body fat spiked over Christmas last year, heavier than I've ever been despite quite an intense regimen of exercise (running 2-3 times a week; biking/ spinning 2-3 times a week burning 5k-6k calories a week through exercise alone). At 6'1", my weight was around 78kg and body fat was about 18%


I changed my diet moderately, I cut out the biscuits and doughnuts that were 3-4 times a week and replaced them with having a proper cereal breakfast every day (I was a serial cereal skipper).


I've also included early morning swimming in the regimen, 2-3 times a week covering 80x25m and kept up with the running and biking.


Weight is now down and holding around 71kg-72kg, body fat seems pretty stable at around 8%, the downside is I'm permanently hungry and always cold! It's a double edged sword I guess...


You've got to go in for the long term Alcazar, the day on day comparison is affected by what you eat the day before. Stuff yourself with a bucket of KFC and you'll see your weight and body fat rocket the following day, equally if you starve yourself then your body will go into a conservation mode and you won't lose much either.
11stone 4lb for 6'1" you must be like a twig, I weigh 15st7lb at 6', muscular build, not huge though
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Old Apr 29, 2016 | 11:55 AM
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At 15 7 muscle you should be huge!
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Old Apr 29, 2016 | 11:59 AM
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At 15 7 muscle you should be huge!
Well I have a 48" chest 38" waist. So compared to an average chap quite big, but I don't carry the muscle mass I had when I was in my 20s. Have a flat stomach though
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Old Apr 29, 2016 | 12:02 PM
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Originally Posted by andy97
11stone 4lb for 6'1" you must be like a twig, I weigh 15st7lb at 6', muscular build, not huge though
LOL, I wouldn't say a twig but I would say fairly lean. Shaping up nicely for triathlon season.
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Old Apr 29, 2016 | 02:29 PM
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Originally Posted by SJ_Skyline
LOL, I wouldn't say a twig but I would say fairly lean. Shaping up nicely for triathlon season.
Are you Matty in disguise ..!!!
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Old May 3, 2016 | 09:09 AM
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Still eating lightly, still hardly any alcohol, now exercising twice weekly....and still only lost 4.5lbs.
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Old May 3, 2016 | 09:22 AM
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4.5lbs is 4.5lbs in the right direction. Keep it up and you`ll get there.
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Old May 3, 2016 | 09:24 AM
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That's 2kg ! id be happy with that myself .

Also you may be swopping round fat for muscle !
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Old May 3, 2016 | 09:48 AM
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I'm not doing very well with weight loss at the moment.

I'm 5'8 and will be 39 next month. Last time I weighed myself I was 80Kg and it's pretty much all in my gut. My frame overall is quite thin so a gut on me is terrible.

I've been going to the gym pretty much every other day since March. Up till now I start on the rower and then free weights although I've mostly only really focused on chest and arms. I've been given a couple of routines which I'm going to add into my current routine this week.

Eating wise I've cut out biscuits and sweets. No sugar in tea and coffee. Have a little porridge on the morning. Apple, banana and a cereal bar at 11ish. Yogurt, apple, banana, cereal bar for lunch and then a meal in the evening - I have two kids and on my own so although I cook every night it's quick easy stuff so quite a bit of pasta, rice etc. Steak and jacket with salad is on the menu for this evening. I do keep my servings to a minimum.

Been like this for over a month and have seen weight gain rather than loss. So my arms and chest are a little bigger but so it would seem is my stomach.

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Old May 3, 2016 | 12:53 PM
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Originally Posted by EddScott
I'm not doing very well with weight loss at the moment.

I'm 5'8 and will be 39 next month. Last time I weighed myself I was 80Kg and it's pretty much all in my gut. My frame overall is quite thin so a gut on me is terrible.

I've been going to the gym pretty much every other day since March. Up till now I start on the rower and then free weights although I've mostly only really focused on chest and arms. I've been given a couple of routines which I'm going to add into my current routine this week.

Eating wise I've cut out biscuits and sweets. No sugar in tea and coffee. Have a little porridge on the morning. Apple, banana and a cereal bar at 11ish. Yogurt, apple, banana, cereal bar for lunch and then a meal in the evening - I have two kids and on my own so although I cook every night it's quick easy stuff so quite a bit of pasta, rice etc. Steak and jacket with salad is on the menu for this evening. I do keep my servings to a minimum.

Been like this for over a month and have seen weight gain rather than loss. So my arms and chest are a little bigger but so it would seem is my stomach.
Looks like too many calories going in compared to being burnt. Your workout needs to be high repetitions and little rest between exercises to elevate metabolism. Do more cardio if possible.

Drop the cereal bars and one banana, mid morning and lunch. Eat a small sandwich or soup with a little bread. Evening meal have fish or chicken with salad, no or little carbs. drink water before each meal.
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Old May 9, 2016 | 07:51 PM
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LOL at you lot, I'm 5'11" and 87kg at the moment, which is about alarm time, or it would be if I'd not spent the last couple of months cutting wood, planting potatoes and generally humping rocks about the place. I think I have swapped about 5kg of fat for around 10kg of muscle in the last 3 months, still have a bit of a gut though, mostly because I love beer, white bread, white rice and potatoes, good thing is though if I cut out the beer and bread for 10/15 days my stomach goes pretty flat, my legs have put on a fair bit of muscle during that time as has my upper body.

Best advice I can give as an older chap is lots of reasonably fast walking 10km a day does it for me, it's low impact on old bones and by keeping myself at around the 120bpm mark I burn fat, have very good heart lung fitness, plenty of stamina and the graft takes care of my physic when I lay off the beer.

I also do a bit of stretching, kick bag and punch ball work just because I like it and it gets my heart beating nicely, green tea and lots of water, generally don't worry too much about diet as I eat really healthy and stay off the sweet stuff and consume as little salt as possible.

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Old May 9, 2016 | 09:20 PM
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get a iwatch Jeff , itll not only free you up the burden carrying round all that silver but itll also tell you how many steps you should have taken since your last pint
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Old May 10, 2016 | 04:10 PM
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Well, I'm now down 6lbs. At the weekend, despite more alcohol and bigger meals, it was 7.5lbs. Smaller meals and less alcohol has put 1.5lbs back ON!!!

Added to that, I have very loose motions now, whether or not I eat fruit.....
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Old May 10, 2016 | 06:08 PM
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1.5lb is trivial, variations throughout the day can affect that. You have lost 1/2 stone, so should start to see a change in your shape. Try a little extra roughage/bran to aid digestion. Everything should settle down given time.
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Old May 11, 2016 | 08:55 AM
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I just lost 1.5lb in about 3 minutes.
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Went again last night, killing workout, the guy who runs it for us is an ex-Para PT trainer.

Down another 3/4 lb this morning, but he's given me a load of stuff to check out about reverse dieting and metabolic damage.

And I still have the runs.
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Runnings good for you !
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Old May 11, 2016 | 11:17 AM
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You have the runs and you've only lost 3/4lb? Sounds more like a trickle.




Seriously though, stick with it mate you're only just starting to see the results.
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Old May 11, 2016 | 11:38 AM
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Old May 11, 2016 | 11:43 AM
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It's progress, Alcazar.
Stay with it!
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Stick with it, big differences take big time.


Your weight isn't a good gauge of your progress either, with your new found HITT classes and other working out you will add some muscle, and muscle carries more weight than the fat it's burnt off.
In the early stages of training your weight will not change that much, but your fat % will start to drop. As mentioned already, if you're in a negative calorie deficit you can only lose weight.
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Old May 11, 2016 | 12:22 PM
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It's progress OK, but the liquid motions and cramps before I go in the morning, worry me. Too much fruit, or fruit juice? Not enough carbs?
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