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Old Jan 20, 2016 | 02:51 PM
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Originally Posted by Alan Jeffery
Come on then smart Alec tell me why an Impreza is going to break its gearbox if you spin one set of wheels while the others are stationary at 5 mph for 15 seconds or so.
I'm not here to teach.

There's a reason why the manual specifically says don't do that, there's a reason why activating the handbrake opens the diff.

I'd recommend you look them up as a courtesy to your customers. Just because you don't see an immediate consequence or catastrophic failure, doesn't mean what you're doing is fine. It's really not.
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Old Jan 20, 2016 | 02:52 PM
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Originally Posted by RB5_245
I'm not here to teach.

There's a reason why the manual specifically says don't do that, there's a reason why activating the handbrake opens the diff.

I'd recommend you look them up as a courtesy to your customers. Just because you don't see an immediate consequence or catastrophic failure, doesn't mean what you're doing is fine. It's really not.
when you pay the thick end of 2k plus for a 6 speed conversion, I dont think anyone would want their diffs risked regardless of how strong it is.
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Old Jan 20, 2016 | 03:30 PM
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Ditchy small piece of advice let this sort itself out now, I made the mistake of defending Chy/Pennine subaru a few years ago. It ended up causing me nothing but hassle defending him and in the end he still f**cked me over before he shut up shop.
Agreed and I shall leave it now as I feel like there's no point and it's been blown way out of proportion.
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Old Jan 20, 2016 | 04:10 PM
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Originally Posted by RB5_245
I'm not here to teach.

There's a reason why the manual specifically says don't do that, there's a reason why activating the handbrake opens the diff.

I'd recommend you look them up as a courtesy to your customers. Just because you don't see an immediate consequence or catastrophic failure, doesn't mean what you're doing is fine. It's really not.
You're putting words in my mouth, and I bet you have previous for this. Nowhere have I said what I do with my car or anyone else's. I don't run an MOT station. My point is that it really doesn't matter that much as you will not break an Impreza gearbox just by putting it on a brake tester. The tester is more likely to break the car when on some stupid road test. Of course the manual says "Don't do that" as they are going to assume you're going to be extreme about it and they don't want to get sued.
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Old Jan 20, 2016 | 04:41 PM
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Originally Posted by Alan Jeffery
You're putting words in my mouth, and I bet you have previous for this. Nowhere have I said what I do with my car or anyone else's. I don't run an MOT station. My point is that it really doesn't matter that much as you will not break an Impreza gearbox just by putting it on a brake tester. The tester is more likely to break the car when on some stupid road test. Of course the manual says "Don't do that" as they are going to assume you're going to be extreme about it and they don't want to get sued.

Would a roller brake testing machine not put strain on the gearbox/diff though, if just a little ?.

From personal experience, the two different garages I use to test my impreza won't run it on a roller brake tester.
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Old Jan 20, 2016 | 04:46 PM
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Whys this even a talking point??! If you dont mention it they would probably road test the brakes anyway.. They take your reg to get the details if they can't spot the obvious awd impreza in front of them.. Only car ive had to specifically say dont roller it is my old 205 with a plated diff
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Old Jan 20, 2016 | 04:46 PM
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I think the reaction is more to do with the after service or complete lack of it which justifies the saga, not to mention the pure arrogance in thinking you are bigger and better than your paying customers...fundamentals in running a business are don't take the **** out of your punters.....unless you work in a dialysis ward that is!!!
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Old Jan 20, 2016 | 04:46 PM
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Originally Posted by Alan Jeffery
You're putting words in my mouth, and I bet you have previous for this. Nowhere have I said what I do with my car or anyone else's. I don't run an MOT station. My point is that it really doesn't matter that much as you will not break an Impreza gearbox just by putting it on a brake tester. The tester is more likely to break the car when on some stupid road test. Of course the manual says "Don't do that" as they are going to assume you're going to be extreme about it and they don't want to get sued.
mine was in for mot on Monday, advisory on number plates, mot tester was telling me he got pulled when road testing a car he had failed on number plates but had to test the brakes. "I was doing a brake test on the road because it was a 4x4, and you can't brake test them on a rolling road" were his words in the conversation.

Originally Posted by Alan Jeffery
I'm sure your Mum laughs at that little story! We have to remember that cars are actually only bits of machinery glued together and any failure is possible at any time, and it's the owners who go around busting cars by and large. I don't know many people who would bother to take their car to a garage to have it checked out every time they hit a pothole. In certain parts of the country you'd be doing nothing else. Devon has some areas that are just as bad as they are in Northern parts and I only recall having one car in that had actually broken something and that was an old Honda with rusty coilovers. He drove it in dragging his subframe on the floor!
I'm pretty sure I omitted that information when I told her what had happened to the car, although it was over twenty years ago. Yes indeed cars are machinery that can go wrong at any time (hopefully all mine are bolted together, not glued!) but treating other peoples property in the way we have all seen on the video is not acceptable. What I did to my mums car happened as a consequence of my actions, not because a car can fail at any time. I am only glad the fault occurred immediately after, and not when someone else was driving it. I've hit potholes, my wife has hit potholes, and they do damage. One car I have had for four years, I am approaching the twentieth tyre that has been put on the car. Of those, two were instant blowouts, and two were a bulge and split in the tyre wall caused by hitting potholes hidden by puddles. The subaru has suffered a cracked alloy, to be replaced by a brand new alloy, and then four buckled alloys, all caused by the same thing.

I hope you make your customers sign a disclaimer when they ask you to drive their cars through potholes

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Old Jan 20, 2016 | 05:04 PM
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Originally Posted by WRXrowdy
mine was in for mot on Monday, advisory on number plates, mot tester was telling me he got pulled when road testing a car he had failed on number plates but had to test the brakes. "I was doing a brake test on the road because it was a 4x4, and you can't brake test them on a rolling road" were his words in the conversation.


I'm pretty sure I omitted that information when I told her what had happened to the car, although it was over twenty years ago. Yes indeed cars are machinery that can go wrong at any time (hopefully all mine are bolted together, not glued!) but treating other peoples property in the way we have all seen on the video is not acceptable. What I did to my mums car happened as a consequence of my actions, not because a car can fail at any time. I am only glad the fault occurred immediately after, and not when someone else was driving it. I've hit potholes, my wife has hit potholes, and they do damage. One car I have had for four years, I am approaching the twentieth tyre that has been put on the car. Of those, two were instant blowouts, and two were a bulge and split in the tyre wall caused by hitting potholes hidden by puddles. The subaru has suffered a cracked alloy, to be replaced by a brand new alloy, and then four buckled alloys, all caused by the same thing.

I hope you make your customers sign a disclaimer when they ask you to drive their cars through potholes
I still rely on common sense. Call me old fashioned, go on..
20 tyres? flippin' eck. I have never burst a tyre despite 47 years of driving and twenty years of various motor sport. Where do you live? The Giant's Causeway?
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Old Jan 20, 2016 | 05:09 PM
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Originally Posted by MattyB1983
Would a roller brake testing machine not put strain on the gearbox/diff though, if just a little ?.

From personal experience, the two different garages I use to test my impreza won't run it on a roller brake tester.
No more than driving it about on ice/mud/gravel/tarmac or all four, no. Of course they won't, they'd be letting out a little bit of wee with all these serial litigants about. The whole MOT test is a farce anyway.
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Old Jan 20, 2016 | 05:13 PM
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Originally Posted by Alan Jeffery
I still rely on common sense. Call me old fashioned, go on..
20 tyres? flippin' eck. I have never burst a tyre despite 47 years of driving and twenty years of various motor sport. Where do you live? The Giant's Causeway?
No but it bloody feels like it some times. Most of the roads going into my village are not much better than farm tracks. You get accustomed to knowing where the potholes are but when new ones appear masked by puddles your fvcked. On one of the blowouts, I stopped, obviously, and the next car down the road clouted it too. A fair few of the tyres are down to worn suspension bushes (heavy volvo that is notorious for wearing through bushes like they are tyres) and at least a couple are from screws, nails, debris in the road. Will be going poly bush next time, might save a bit in tyre wear!
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Old Jan 20, 2016 | 05:23 PM
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Originally Posted by WRXrowdy
No but it bloody feels like it some times. Most of the roads going into my village are not much better than farm tracks. You get accustomed to knowing where the potholes are but when new ones appear masked by puddles your fvcked. On one of the blowouts, I stopped, obviously, and the next car down the road clouted it too. A fair few of the tyres are down to worn suspension bushes (heavy volvo that is notorious for wearing through bushes like they are tyres) and at least a couple are from screws, nails, debris in the road. Will be going poly bush next time, might save a bit in tyre wear!
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Old Jan 20, 2016 | 05:28 PM
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i might be right i might be wrong but with headphones on i took that video to be , the customer is a **** if we break his car hard fvcking luck kev may or may not pay for it, but it will need fixing either way, but as a added bonus it might make kev fix the potholes, most company bosses these days are as tight as a ducks chuff trying to cut corners every way poss, so they can line their own pockets, if its true it worked to a point cos he said he had staff out filling in the holes, pot holes are not created by moles and do no appear overnight the size of them holes they have been there ages
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Old Jan 20, 2016 | 05:54 PM
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Originally Posted by madscoob
i might be right i might be wrong but with headphones on i took that video to be , the customer is a **** if we break his car hard fvcking luck kev may or may not pay for it, but it will need fixing either way, but as a added bonus it might make kev fix the potholes, most company bosses these days are as tight as a ducks chuff trying to cut corners every way poss, so they can line their own pockets, if its true it worked to a point cos he said he had staff out filling in the holes, pot holes are not created by moles and do no appear overnight the size of them holes they have been there ages
wonder if i can get hold of a program to enhance the audio on this
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Old Jan 20, 2016 | 05:59 PM
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Right, I've just fitted my new dash cam and it's one of the smallest ones available on the market. You would have to be practically blind not to see it! I can not honestly see how it's physically possible for 2 people, the driver and a passenger not to see a dash cam! It beggars beliefs! Surely one of them must have at least clocked it but thought nothing of it? The 2 in the car must be seriously stupid, but I guess that shows based on their driving and comments made.....
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Old Jan 20, 2016 | 06:00 PM
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Originally Posted by G4rfo
wonder if i can get hold of a program to enhance the audio on this
ime not saying that they said that it was just my gut feeling, one of them can be heard clear as day, MAYBE HEEL MEND THE LANE at the 57 second mark

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Old Jan 20, 2016 | 06:02 PM
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Originally Posted by madscoob
ime not saying that they said that it was just my gut feeling,
ya i know bud just looking into some audio progs just for hell of it lol enhance it a little i will rip vid and just have audio file
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Old Jan 20, 2016 | 06:04 PM
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Originally Posted by LSherratt
Right, I've just fitted my new dash cam and it's one of the smallest ones available on the market. You would have to be practically blind not to see it! I can not honestly see how it's physically possible for 2 people, the driver and a passenger not to see a dash cam! It beggars beliefs! Surely one of them must have at least clocked it but thought nothing of it? The 2 in the car must be seriously stupid, but I guess that shows based on their driving and comments made.....
easy to hide m8y

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Old Jan 20, 2016 | 06:08 PM
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Ok, that's probably even more discreet but that still has to fit over an existing rear view mirror which I'm sure you'd still notice? I highly doubt Ben had a cam like that though anyway.

Btw, I bought the A118-C, you'd still have to be blind not to notice it.
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Old Jan 20, 2016 | 06:38 PM
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So to some up did Jeff respond?

Also going get a camera fitted to mine. Wonder which is the best stealth one.
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Old Jan 20, 2016 | 06:43 PM
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I trust very few with my cars and from a review of all the evidence Scoobyclinic certainly isnt one of them.
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Old Jan 20, 2016 | 06:43 PM
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Originally Posted by jaygsi
So to some up did Jeff respond?

Also going get a camera fitted to mine. Wonder which is the best stealth one.
Surely you'd want one that is clearly visible.
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Old Jan 20, 2016 | 06:49 PM
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I'm looking forward to finding a camera in a customers car when I do my usual 50 mile running in trip on a new engine. They'll have to sit and watch while I adhere to the speed limit, avoid any kind of incident, and listen to current affairs on Radio Four. Borring.. The only highlight will be me ranting at that bloody John Humphries when he goes off on one.

Or maybe I'll moon at it? what do you think?
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Old Jan 20, 2016 | 06:54 PM
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No, think i'd like to see what people got upto without knowing i'm watching. Plus couldn't they just delete video footage if they new it was there?

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Surely you'd want one that is clearly visible.
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Old Jan 20, 2016 | 06:56 PM
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Bit of insulation tape over the lense should do the trick.
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Old Jan 20, 2016 | 06:58 PM
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Originally Posted by Alan Jeffery
I'm looking forward to finding a camera in a customers car when I do my usual 50 mile running in trip on a new engine. They'll have to sit and watch while I adhere to the speed limit, avoid any kind of incident, and listen to current affairs on Radio Four. Borring.. The only highlight will be me ranting at that bloody John Humphries when he goes off on one.

Or maybe I'll moon at it? what do you think?
You could send a copy to SC to show how it's supposed to be done
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Old Jan 20, 2016 | 07:01 PM
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Sounds good Alan

So long as you don't test the brakes on a 2wd roller
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Old Jan 20, 2016 | 07:10 PM
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for anyone interested in a nosey through Scooby Clinic: just go into google maps and street view or better google earth, will let you walk through the whole lot.
Obviously a major player with so many scoobys around and the amount of work going on.
the view is from May 2011, drive appears in much better shape and drying up in the spring weather
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Old Jan 20, 2016 | 07:41 PM
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Ben has recently posted again on MLR, this is what he has said;


"Apparently I intentionally hid the camera out of site, let's bust this one too.

Below is a picture of the actual dashcam that caught the footage. It's a Transcend DashPro 200 and it costs £80 off eBay.
It was mounted on the suction arm to the left of the rear view mirror ( as it doesn't fit behind ) and is plugged into the 12v socket.
It bleeps once when ignition is turned on and twice when turned off. It also has a constant flashing red light on the rear of the unit whilst recording and the rear screen shows the recording angle for three minutes after turning on."


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Simply impossible not to spot his dash cam. Idiot driver and passenger.
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Does it matter if he did or didnt hide it they still shouldnt have driving it the way they did
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