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Old 18 October 2015, 10:22 PM
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Originally Posted by Moley_WRX View Post
Currently trying to convince the Mrs it's a good idea to have the M3 as a daily driver and the Evo as a toy. Wish me luck!
I would take your time in picking the right one. I looked two years ago and a 2005 plate was around 8k they seem to be asking more now. It's not that they are worth more it's just what people are asking as you will know Glasses guide will have those cars at far less than what they want.
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Really nice things to drive and easy to live with as a daily as it feels quite a mature car if driven gently...but as said you do really need to know how to pedal to get the best of it; traction control off it will bite you if you can't drive.

Spent ages looking for one, flirted with a E92 and then bought an S2000...go figure
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Old 12 November 2015, 10:52 AM
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Or supercharge it to 550 bhp. Wont feel tame then
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Great road cars . As someone mentioned you can pottle around like in a normal refined car and have a blast on the longer stretch . However it's not a fun car , unless you rev the nuts out of it. But where and how often will that happen in the real world? Coming from Impreza and Evo to such a lazy power delivery will be disappointing (as i have found out ) . It's a great all rounder but not a weekend toy .

On track it shines , it needs more precision and skill to make it fast , rear end feedback is great and controllable , balance in general seemed to be great with the right Geo to eliminate understeer. Once they roll , they don't need all that torque to keep them going , as we Turbo guys always brag about . It's a totally different machine to any Turbo charged jap car IMO. It's deffo an itch to scratch , just maybe not yet , as after a 1.5 year i'm still enjoying my 6 ( when it works )
Oh how things have changed since then , as the preferences ... 1.5 years later....

It's a great compromise when you need it to be used more often . It's totally different concept to any rally chassis so shouldn't be compared to MO. However it does more for my current circumstances and that automatically can be as a rewarding experience . DSC off , Sport Button on and the lazy kitten goes into Tiger mode , you have to work for it , but by doing so it is rewarding as well. Delivery is linear and speed sensation is not same due to sound isolation and lack of turbo lag , but comparing it to FQ330 @360ish it's up it's **** most of the time when rolling. In wet 4WD's will have more advantages in average hands , M3 requires huge ***** to be tamed in wet. But that's the only "disadvantage" which is not a disadvantage really as 40 mph skids are great fun on some empty forgotten country side roundabout
I've found my motoring satisfaction from it just from wanting to drive it everywhere , more often than i did any of the scoobs or evo . Driving it and not ****ting my pants for something to go wrong . Not doing idiotic service intervals and not listening to the missus rants when you have to travel a longer distance
It's not perfect , subframe cracks single pot brakes , old shocks or suspension components can give you negative impression once you drive it but all freshened up it's a fantastic perfomance platform which needs to be exploited to the limits to understand what huge potential these cars have.

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Old 16 April 2017, 06:51 AM
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Just came back to an m3 after a widetrack sti, such a special car to drive and the engine is a peach, you have to work them hard but they go very well.

Here's my recently acquired carbon black and my old silver grey.

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Old 18 April 2017, 06:41 PM
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Originally Posted by maff125 View Post
Just came back to an m3 after a widetrack sti, such a special car to drive and the engine is a peach, you have to work them hard but they go very well.

Here's my recently acquired carbon black and my old silver grey.



What would you say is a reasonable price to pay for a low mileage manual coupe these days.
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Old 18 April 2017, 07:23 PM
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Originally Posted by scooby k View Post
What would you say is a reasonable price to pay for a low mileage manual coupe these days.
12-15k going on the market
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Old 18 April 2017, 09:33 PM
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Originally Posted by Tidgy View Post
12-15k going on the market
This seems about right.. but what do you call low mileage? bodywork is everything for me followed by maintenance, but there's people asking stupid money, don't even mention m3 cs
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Old 18 April 2017, 10:11 PM
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Originally Posted by maff125 View Post
This seems about right.. but what do you call low mileage? bodywork is everything for me followed by maintenance, but there's people asking stupid money, don't even mention m3 cs
I would say 50k miles. Saw one yesterday for sale at 16k at 53k miles , the seller message me saying it been sold now.

Seen a phonix yellow convertible at around 40k miles going at 17k miles only problem is it a 4 hour drive away from me.
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Old 18 April 2017, 10:41 PM
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I bought one for 6700 and sold it last year at auction for 4800 a year later. It was 03, manual coupe with original 19s and sat nav, but yellow and 129000 miles. Excellent mechanically, but the bodywork had some paint and wings and boot rust. Everyone wants low mileage manual coupes that are not yellow.
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Old 19 April 2017, 06:06 AM
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Originally Posted by scooby k View Post
I would say 50k miles. Saw one yesterday for sale at 16k at 53k miles , the seller message me saying it been sold now.

Seen a phonix yellow convertible at around 40k miles going at 17k miles only problem is it a 4 hour drive away from me.
For me i wouldn't go anywhere near a convertible, the m3 is an old school drivers car, rear wheel drive with predictable handling, the convertible would be no where near as sharp as a coupe and what ever i bought i'd be looking at being able to sell it on easily if i had to.

People are obviously buying the big money m3's and if they are showroom with no rust and service history then i can understand it.

I bought my old silver grey car for 5500, kept if for two years spent a fair bit on it and sold it for 7300, well i gave it away as it wasn't rusty, just had an inspection 2 new smg pump etc, i had a que of people wanting to buy it and it sold within 12 hours so i undersold it.

I've just bought a carbon black car, 108,000 miles manual for not a lot and it's a great car
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Old 19 April 2017, 08:26 AM
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Originally Posted by maff125 View Post
This seems about right.. but what do you call low mileage? bodywork is everything for me followed by maintenance, but there's people asking stupid money, don't even mention m3 cs
low low milage under 50k, but i'd expect to be up towards 20k.

70k - 80k ish is low miles given the age. Subframe and service history are mega important with them in my eyes. Bodywork is an easy fix.
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Old 25 April 2017, 08:30 AM
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Originally Posted by Tidgy View Post
low low milage under 50k, but i'd expect to be up towards 20k.

70k - 80k ish is low miles given the age. Subframe and service history are mega important with them in my eyes. Bodywork is an easy fix.
Seen a carbon black with black interior with 54k miles going fot 16,000 what you think of the price, is it reasonable.

It a coupe
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Old 25 April 2017, 09:31 AM
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Originally Posted by scooby k View Post
Seen a carbon black with black interior with 54k miles going fot 16,000 what you think of the price, is it reasonable.

It a coupe
For that money would have to be spotless, full history, subframe sorted etc etc
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Old 25 April 2017, 11:33 AM
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Originally Posted by Tidgy View Post
For that money would have to be spotless, full history, subframe sorted etc etc
He said body work is mint, leather slightly worn on drivers side. Full history. Subframe not checked, he ain't drimych.it much.

Would you pay for it.
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Old 25 April 2017, 11:38 AM
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Originally Posted by scooby k View Post
He said body work is mint, leather slightly worn on drivers side. Full history. Subframe not checked, he ain't drimych.it much.

Would you pay for it.
Without the subframe being given the all clear personally i'd walk away. Even if it was given the all clear i'd drop the budget to allow the cost of reinforcing it (1800-2500 depending on where you go and whats done) because they all go sooner or later.

Leather seats can be sorted if you know where to go.

Is it manual or SMG? what options? vert or coupe? etc
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The prices have shot up for these. The 1st one I got was Jan 2013 52 plate with 70 odd miles coupe for just over 7k. That was mint too
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Originally Posted by Tidgy View Post
Without the subframe being given the all clear personally i'd walk away. Even if it was given the all clear i'd drop the budget to allow the cost of reinforcing it (1800-2500 depending on where you go and whats done) because they all go sooner or later.

Leather seats can be sorted if you know where to go.

Is it manual or SMG? what options? vert or coupe? etc
It's a manual coupe, not sure what extra options it has but there is no HK . it has the TV/DVD/ nav

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Biggest down fall as mentioned is the subframe, or for better words the tin foil that the subaframe attaches to. Speaking from experience, unless you drop the whole subframe you cant fully see the extent of the damage or hair line cracks just waiting to go pop.
Removing all of the underseal from around the mounting points will highlight most of the weakness.

Its not that bad of a job to strengthen, and a good time to refresh all the rear bushes.
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Biggest down fall as mentioned is the subframe, or for better words the tin foil that the subaframe attaches to. Speaking from experience, unless you drop the whole subframe you cant fully see the extent of the damage or hair line cracks just waiting to go pop.
Removing all of the underseal from around the mounting points will highlight most of the weakness.

Its not that bad of a job to strengthen, and a good time to refresh all the rear bushes.
I test drove one today, omg what a car. Don't know why I didn't get this sooner. Only issue is the rear subframe hasn't been checked. I've been told by someone to avoid. What shall I do.
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I test drove one today, omg what a car. Don't know why I didn't get this sooner. Only issue is the rear subframe hasn't been checked. I've been told by someone to avoid. What shall I do.
Ask the seller if they are willing to have it inspected.
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Originally Posted by Tidgy View Post
Ask the seller if they are willing to have it inspected.
I doubt very much he would do that now. You fink I should just got for or its too much of a risk.
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I would assume it is cracked, mine had some hairlines I could see and probably a lot more I could not.
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I would leave that one be. Plenty out there for that budget and below. Check out m3cutters, will be some on there worth looking at
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Have a read of this. quite a good article ref the subframe issues:

https://drivetribe.com/p/Pl7K58qaTcO...R2G5wGuEEUy_jQ
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Originally Posted by Ste333 View Post
Have a read of this. quite a good article ref the subframe issues:

https://drivetribe.com/p/Pl7K58qaTcO...R2G5wGuEEUy_jQ
Thanks for that. I actually spoke to Munich legends yesterday too. Was a woman that answered the phone and she was quite helpful and said better to get it checked as it would most likely need doing if not already done.

S​aved myself 2k I suppose if it needed doing but really feel like kicking myself for loosing out on the car. God knows when another good one will pop up.
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http://forums.m3cutters.co.uk/forumdisplay.php?f=61


try having a nosey through there
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Originally Posted by Tidgy View Post
I'm already on there tidgy, not much on there at the moment that catches my interest.
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I'm already on there tidgy, not much on there at the moment that catches my interest.


Ah k, wait till the right one comes along is by far the best bet.
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Originally Posted by scooby k View Post
I test drove one today, omg what a car. Don't know why I didn't get this sooner. Only issue is the rear subframe hasn't been checked. I've been told by someone to avoid. What shall I do.
Sorry mate, missed this.....if you really want one then just presume every one you look at will have cracks, unless its been strengthened at some point.
Im dubious when owners say 'subframe inspected' unless they can prove its been done by someone in the know, and not by BMW dealership or back street garage.

They are great cars and should appreciate, but if it was my money id get an E90 M3!
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