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Old 12 September 2015, 11:00 PM
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Originally Posted by hodgy0_2
Why do people insist on giving animals human traits, such as love, affection, respect, obedience etc etc

they are fvcking animals

Fine, have pets, have dogs, have cats, have whatever you fvcking want

But they are animals - not humans

We have a cat - its called Delilah, we "love" it, we treat as part of the family, we talk to it, we indulge its ridiculous predilections - it only seems to like the most exotic and expensive foods

But it is a fvcking cat - not a human,

They don't "love" you

If you were a pile of steaming meat on the pavement they would eat you - "love" get fvcking real "sheeple"

Yes, they do love you, in their own way, with their limitations. If you expect any more than what they're capable of, you need to get your faculties tested out.

Pet animal's attachment with humans has been tested and proven in studies. This attachment is known as 'love' for humans. Often, human-to-human attachment proves itself to be complete or partial bull$h1t, never mind animal-human one.

About them eating you if you were a pile of meat on the pavement, yes, they will fvcking eat you. What exactly do you expect? They are animals at the end of the day. You're right about that.

My cats aren't just fvcking cats, they're deeply meaningful to me with their non-verbal stance. Just like you and yours, I give my pet cats love, care, attention and all that what I give to my human children. I get that back from them as well. I know their limitations for that, and that's ok. But my love for them doesn't mean I'll let them maul me, my human children or other humans/pet animals. I'll give them a right slap if they do. To be honest, if my own human children maul someone, they'll also get a right hiding from me.

But yes, there're some seriously irrational people on this earth that put animal above humans, no matter how unpredictable and dangerous their animal might be. My own sister being one.

By the way, give our love to your cat Delilah from us. Lovely name.

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Originally Posted by dpb
isnt the whole point of a guard dog ,not to train it !
Depends. I guess that's how the scumbags do it with a mandatory chain and stake in the ground. A trained guard dog with a fight drive has an on and off switch. It knows how to act socially acceptable around people and it can distinguish between a genuine threat and what isn't. What makes a good dog is social interaction from the very beginning and continued social interaction. Also the professional ones are trained to "attack" (in reality it's just a game to them as they're trained by a bite sleeve which progresses onto an arm) on a command and will release on command too. There's a difference between a controlled guard dog and one that's completely crazed with no limitations that can go on and potentially kill someone. Think of police and security dogs, they are all trained to bark/guard on command, attack a threat and release when told.

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Originally Posted by LSherratt
Depends. I guess that's how the scumbags do it with a mandatory chain and stake in the ground. A trained guard dog with a fight drive has an on and off switch. It knows how to act socially acceptable around people and it can distinguish between a genuine threat and what isn't. What makes a good dog is social interaction from the very beginning and continued social interaction. Also the professional ones are trained to "attack" (in reality it's just a game to them as they're trained by a bite sleeve which progresses onto an arm) on a command.

Not quite true. Professional dogs can be clearly divided into arrest dogs as used by the police, and attack (war) dogs as used by sections of the military. The latter are trained to attack the groin and the throat with unfortunate consequences for the victim, unless they know how to deal with it. But the war dog remains a major threat to the infiltrator. Often only the trainer can handle these dogs, everyone else better stay clear.

I have been on the wrong end of these creatures and this has left me with a distrust of all things canine. And I used to really like dogs!
Old 13 September 2015, 05:32 AM
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Originally Posted by hodgy0_2
Why do people insist on giving animals human traits, such as love, affection, respect, obedience etc etc

they are fvcking animals

Fine, have pets, have dogs, have cats, have whatever you fvcking want

But they are animals - not humans

We have a cat - its called Delilah, we "love" it, we treat as part of the family, we talk to it, we indulge its ridiculous predilections - it only seems to like the most exotic and expensive foods

But it is a fvcking cat - not a human,

They don't "love" you

If you were a pile of steaming meat on the pavement they would eat you - "love" get fvcking real "sheeple"
Thats the biggest load of b0llocks ive read on this forum in a long time, if you love your pets they WILL love you back, they will jump all over you when you get home, they will come and lie on you for a fuss when your chilling out in front of the tv, they will bring the toys over to you to play with them and they will cry when you go out, these are not traits of something that dosen't LOVE you.

Admittedly cats are generally anti social and like to do their own thing, but ive always found my rotties to be the most loving dogs i could wish for.
Old 13 September 2015, 07:18 AM
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Originally Posted by gazzawrx
Thats the biggest load of b0llocks ive read on this forum in a long time, if you love your pets they WILL love you back, they will jump all over you when you get home, they will come and lie on you for a fuss when your chilling out in front of the tv, they will bring the toys over to you to play with them and they will cry when you go out, these are not traits of something that dosen't LOVE you.

Admittedly cats are generally anti social and like to do their own thing, but ive always found my rotties to be the most loving dogs i could wish for.
A person that understands dogscould not agree moreI am surprised you even had the time to reply to that post I thought he was just having a laugh.SJ.
Old 13 September 2015, 08:28 AM
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Why didn't someone just run in with a blade/weapon etc and just kill the things, no way they would back down so just go in and kill the things.
Hell pick up by it's front legs and split them apart, or pin it and choke the thing.
Ok you'll probably get bitten, but the things needed to be taken out.
Instead people just watched, one thing i've learned from my car smack, is that many people are totally useless in a situation.
There i sat trapped in my car, and let it was the lorry driver that was panicking

No need for such dogs in an urban environment surely?

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Old 13 September 2015, 08:46 AM
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Originally Posted by hux309
Why didn't someone just run in with a blade/weapon etc and just kill the things, no way they would back down so just go in and kill the things.
Hell pick up by it's front legs and split them apart, or pin it and choke the thing.
Ok you'll probably get bitten, but the things needed to be taken out.
Instead people just watched, one thing i've learned from my car smack, is that many people are totally useless in a situation.
There i sat trapped in my car, and let it was the lorry driver that was panicking

No need for such dogs in an urban environment surely?
Loooool what area are you from,I doubt many normal people walk around everyday with Samurai sword's.By your post I know that you do not have any experience with dogs especially those breeds,they were in a frenzy and with all the people that were involving them self's just made them more excitable,when I tell my own dogs to stop,sit,stay,wait,they do so because they have been trained properly and respect me as their owner Simples! the owner of those dogs in this topic had no control over them I.e...inadequate training.SJ.
Old 13 September 2015, 10:26 AM
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Point is no one seemed willing to step in and do what is necessary, surely with it being the us, a gun owner wouldn't have been far away.
Training or no training, a bullet to the head would have stopped the two dead in their tracks regardless of any frenzy.
And yes i do own a katana
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Lol @ the hero's on this thread.

Just to add a little understanding, those dogs won't feel ANY pain if you whack them with a stick or metal baton /bar, grab it by it's front legs and it will bite your throat and probably kill you. pinning one let alone two dogs down well good luck with that.

To tackle two dogs like this you'd need 4 strong blokes that knew what they were doing.

Only thing you can do in a situation like that, is get them by the BACK legs and DON"T let go, then you need a sharp knife to cut some tendons, just stabbing them will not do very much, unless you go for the heart and that's tricky as the knife needs to be long enough, pointy enough and you'll need to be pretty precise, then it will still take a couple of mins before it has an effect.

Also bear in mind there's two of them to deal with, so expect to be loosing a couple of pint's of blood and the use of an arm or leg while all this is happening.

Everyones a hero on the internet.
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Originally Posted by ditchmyster
Lol @ the hero's on this thread.

Just to add a little understanding, those dogs won't feel ANY pain if you whack them with a stick or metal baton /bar, grab it by it's front legs and it will bite your throat and probably kill you. pinning one let alone two dogs down well good luck with that.

To tackle two dogs like this you'd need 4 strong blokes that knew what they were doing.

Only thing you can do in a situation like that, is get them by the BACK legs and DON"T let go, then you need a sharp knife to cut some tendons, just stabbing them will not do very much, unless you go for the heart and that's tricky as the knife needs to be long enough, pointy enough and you'll need to be pretty precise, then it will still take a couple of mins before it has an effect.

Also bear in mind there's two of them to deal with, so expect to be loosing a couple of pint's of blood and the use of an arm or leg while all this is happening.

Everyones a hero on the internet.
Old 13 September 2015, 11:09 AM
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Originally Posted by Ooperbum
You're a pr4t you are.

No need to explain, I get it and yes it is funny.
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its allready been stated guns aernt as available as other parts , and besides the way they are shifting around be just as likely empty the cartridge into the old man on the deck

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The ***** owner should have carried a breaking stick.

http://www.pbrc.net/breaksticks.html
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or simply a muzzle
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the owner should be heavily prosecuted otherwise , if this sort thing occurs
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Originally Posted by dpb
or simply a muzzle
END OF......SJ.
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Originally Posted by dpb
its allready been stated guns aernt as available as other parts , and besides the way they are shifting around be just as likely empty the cartridge into the old man on the deck
Well, that's another thing you point out. Almost everyone carries a gun in States. What happened to their guns this time at this incident?? Fancy soaking the dogs with the hose fekking pipe, to rid them from the victim! They're not cats, you know.
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Originally Posted by ditchmyster

Everyones a hero on the internet.
The irony
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Originally Posted by Tail Slider
The irony
Where exactly?

I don't ever claim to be a hero, far from it mate, I wouldn't have got involved, I have a Mrs and kid to think about, enough dangers out there without going looking for more, and I don't wander about the streets with a big blade or a 357 magnum, either.

But then I also save my arguing with people that have 2 killer dogs in tow for the internet.
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Originally Posted by Turbohot
Well, that's another thing you point out. Almost everyone carries a gun in States. What happened to their guns this time at this incident?? Fancy soaking the dogs with the hose fekking pipe, to rid them from the victim! They're not cats, you know.
As already pointed out several times now, New York is just about the one place in the US where people are generally not allowed to carry guns around on the street, and this incident happened in New York.

See for yourself if you're not convinced.
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Originally Posted by markjmd
As already pointed out several times now, New York is just about the one place in the US where people are generally not allowed to carry guns around on the street, and this incident happened in New York.

See for yourself if you're not convinced.
I know, man! Even dpb's post involves that; the one I quoted. I was just bantering with dpb, on the basis that it still seems like matter of the sort where 'carved on stone' could be different from the real 'reality'; knowing the US's reputation with guns.
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Originally Posted by hodgy0_2
We have a cat - its called Delilah......
I've just found out that Fredie Mercury also called one of his cute cats Delilah. He had many cats in his life time. He loved them and even had their oils done for his walls. He even wore a waistcoat with all his cats' pics printed on it; apparently for his last performance.






I'm sure his cats loved him, too. It couldn't have been a one-way traffic, although there's no way his cats could get Freddie's oil done for their walls, nor could they ask the family tailor to stitch them a waistcoat each; with Freddie's picture on it.

One has to appreciate the limitations and differences, and celebrate them on the name of the thing called 'love' and diversity.
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Originally Posted by markjmd
As already pointed out several times now, New York is just about the one place in the US where people are generally not allowed to carry guns around on the street, and this incident happened in New York.

See for yourself if you're not convinced.
What about those in the apartments busy filming it
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Originally Posted by ditchmyster
Lol @ the hero's on this thread.

Just to add a little understanding, those dogs won't feel ANY pain if you whack them with a stick or metal baton /bar, grab it by it's front legs and it will bite your throat and probably kill you. pinning one let alone two dogs down well good luck with that.

To tackle two dogs like this you'd need 4 strong blokes that knew what they were doing.

Only thing you can do in a situation like that, is get them by the BACK legs and DON"T let go, then you need a sharp knife to cut some tendons, just stabbing them will not do very much, unless you go for the heart and that's tricky as the knife needs to be long enough, pointy enough and you'll need to be pretty precise, then it will still take a couple of mins before it has an effect.

Also bear in mind there's two of them to deal with, so expect to be loosing a couple of pint's of blood and the use of an arm or leg while all this is happening.

Everyones a hero on the internet.
I worry that some people on SN are smoking some serious sh#t! It's like the script from a Monty Python sketch, the Holy Grail knight who gets dismembered springs to mind.
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Originally Posted by The Trooper 1815
I worry that some people on SN are smoking some serious sh#t! It's like the script from a Monty Python sketch, the Holy Grail knight who gets dismembered springs to mind.
It was in response to those people who think beating 2 frenzied pit bulls with a stick or stabbing it with a knife is going to do something to help a situation like that.

When the reality is what's actually written in the last paragraph of my post.
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Hmm..something weird about those events in that video. For whatever reason the dogs were really focusing on the one guy (and not really on the others as had been suggested)


Someone who appears to be the owner has one dog on a lead and one off? Perhaps one slipped its collar.


Anyway - all he had to do was tie the dog on the lead to something solid and get the other dog off the guy - as he appeared to able able to do one at a time.


I'd love to know the back story to this.


I've seen the damage caused to a grown man from one pitbull type dog attack and he literally was torn limb from limb. If those two dogs had been hell bent on their "attack" that street would literally have been a pool of blood with body parts scattered and the victim would not have been limping away. He was either very lucky or those dogs were far from frenzied.
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Originally Posted by LSherratt
This time in America and amazingly no one was killed. 2 pitbulls savage a man and then attack passers by trying to help. Why the hell did no one shoot them??

http://www.dailystar.co.uk/news/late...limb-from-limb
That's shocking.
I cannot stand these types of dogs.
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http://www.unilad.co.uk/articles/wat...ls-maul-a-man/
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Originally Posted by LSherratt
This time in America and amazingly no one was killed. 2 pitbulls savage a man and then attack passers by trying to help. Why the hell did no one shoot them??

http://www.dailystar.co.uk/news/late...limb-from-limb
Guns don't kill people, people do

Dogs don't kill people, people do.

Cats kill birds, people don't.

Society is backwards.
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Cats poo in people's garden, and therefore they are slagged off by some cat haters here. I don't think they raid anyone's bins anymore, because most councils have started to provide plastic containers to stick your garbage in. So, no one can slag cats off for that anymore.

I've never heard of a domestic cat mauling anyone. There was one random woman who went crying to the Daily Fail, saying that her cat who she treated like her own kid mauled her. She was just making a mountain out of a doughnut According to the media, there have been some people imprisoned and threatened by their humongous Himalayan cat or alike, but come on, cats wouldn't harm a fly, metaphorically speaking.


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