The 2015-2016 Arsenal Thread
#94
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Should of announced it after last nights game. Why should we wait a year for a replacement?. He earns £8.5 mill a season, one of the highest paid managers in world football. Get rid and sign another manager during the summer. I'm sick to death of him, we are getting worse and worse every game.
#95
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I've been saying for the last 8 or so years on here he needed to go and it will only get worse until he does yet here we are after a 3-0 loss to Palace and the worst league finish since he took over and he is about to sign a new 2 year contract
The board are to blame as they are the ones tolerating this situation and so until they go it won't get better. The board is only interested in money not trophies, as long as their business model is profitable that's all they care about. Wenger has not got a clue how to manage a team of average players, his tactics are non existent. £35 million was it for Xhaka? What an utter waste of money that was. Just an example of the utter lack of experience in the market without David Dein controlling the transfers.
I have given up with Arsenal football club and won't care about them until Wenger is gone and the board changed or lead in a different direction. This season has proved everything I said years ago would happen. The club has been ruined and are no more than a mid table outfit now. It's disgraceful.
The board are to blame as they are the ones tolerating this situation and so until they go it won't get better. The board is only interested in money not trophies, as long as their business model is profitable that's all they care about. Wenger has not got a clue how to manage a team of average players, his tactics are non existent. £35 million was it for Xhaka? What an utter waste of money that was. Just an example of the utter lack of experience in the market without David Dein controlling the transfers.
I have given up with Arsenal football club and won't care about them until Wenger is gone and the board changed or lead in a different direction. This season has proved everything I said years ago would happen. The club has been ruined and are no more than a mid table outfit now. It's disgraceful.
#96
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EVEN hill wood initially said that "he didn't want that kind here", meaning kroneke, then what happened ?. Lady bracewell smith said that she wouldn't sell out to an American, and what did she do ?, now look at the state we are in. Even our second highest shareholder usmanov isn't allowed a spot on the board.
Your right, until things change top too bottom we are never gonna compete for the big trophies. I'm worried that if the board did get rid of Wenger who will they bring in ?. They have no experience on running a winning football club, money side of things they are great, But the rest, absolute incompetence.
Your right, until things change top too bottom we are never gonna compete for the big trophies. I'm worried that if the board did get rid of Wenger who will they bring in ?. They have no experience on running a winning football club, money side of things they are great, But the rest, absolute incompetence.
#97
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Usmanov is a David Dein fan and wanted him brought back and to spend huge amounts of money on players to replace the likes of Henry Bergkamp and Vierra but the board didn't want his investment or David Dein to come back as it didn't fit their model of top 4 with little expenditure. Look where that's got them.
I want Kroenke gone, the board replaced and Usmanov to buy the club outright and invest and bring back David Dein to run the club like he did before as strangely enough whilst he was at the helm we were a successful club. Since they got rid of him the club has suffered immensely and Wenger has gone massively down hill without Dein's guidance. Not a coincidence.
I'm hugely tempted to get to a match with a banner saying "Bring back David Dein" and see if the cameras pick that up as to my knowledge the fans haven't done that yet it's always Wenger out. It's a bigger picture than that.
I want Kroenke gone, the board replaced and Usmanov to buy the club outright and invest and bring back David Dein to run the club like he did before as strangely enough whilst he was at the helm we were a successful club. Since they got rid of him the club has suffered immensely and Wenger has gone massively down hill without Dein's guidance. Not a coincidence.
I'm hugely tempted to get to a match with a banner saying "Bring back David Dein" and see if the cameras pick that up as to my knowledge the fans haven't done that yet it's always Wenger out. It's a bigger picture than that.
Last edited by An0n0m0us; 11 April 2017 at 11:57 AM.
#98
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I've been saying that for years. There's no one at the club anymore who are Arsenal through and through. Which is why I can't see things changing. Look at Adams, he's gone to Granada. Why could lent we bring him in as a number 2 and keep Bould as a trainer because our defence is shocking at the moment. Problem is that Wenger needs to be in control though.
#99
Pontificating
As a spectator to all of this I noticed that the bleating and whinging about Wenger has been around for a few seasons but for some reason it really started ramping up after you beat West Ham away 5-1.
TS started taking calls that were a lot more aggressive than they had previously and Arsenal TV started getting worse and worse. Stories of unrest for Ozul and Sanchez started popping up in the press. IIRC at that point (mid December) the Gooners were 2nd or 3rd in the league and at the time and top of their ECL group.
I do remember thinking bloody hell are they not satisfied with a good league position and top of their group, they were in no real danger at that point, now look at the mess they're in the pummeling Arsene has taken since then has been relentless and in my opinion has probably caused their downfall since. I don't disagree about a lot of the comments and yes it probably is time to go, but these anarchic people are bringing their own team down and they cant even see it.
Just my opinion as a footy fan and not anti Gooner
TS started taking calls that were a lot more aggressive than they had previously and Arsenal TV started getting worse and worse. Stories of unrest for Ozul and Sanchez started popping up in the press. IIRC at that point (mid December) the Gooners were 2nd or 3rd in the league and at the time and top of their ECL group.
I do remember thinking bloody hell are they not satisfied with a good league position and top of their group, they were in no real danger at that point, now look at the mess they're in the pummeling Arsene has taken since then has been relentless and in my opinion has probably caused their downfall since. I don't disagree about a lot of the comments and yes it probably is time to go, but these anarchic people are bringing their own team down and they cant even see it.
Just my opinion as a footy fan and not anti Gooner
#100
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I have wanted Wenger out since our 8-2 thrashing at Man Utd. When that happened I thought that Wenger had taken us as far as he could and that a change was needed if anything to freshen things up. Since then I changed my tune a little bit when we bought Ozil and Sanchez because he seemed like he was trying to change his ways. But even he can't get the best out of them. As funny as arsenaltv is, your right in that people especially on social media listen to those people because the majority of them want Wenger out also. But your right, it's not helping the club or the players anyway at all.
#101
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#104
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I want him gone. Blokes a dinosaur. Surely if the board only care about money, then us not being in the champs league shouldn't be a hard decision to let him go.
#106
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Sadly so, 2 years is already a done deal he isn't going anywhere. That's another 2 years wasted/ruined/having to find something else to watch as all the time they are under Wenger i'm not interested watching the club be taken further towards mid-table mediocrity.
I refer to post #3 of this thread. He should have gone a long time ago.
I refer to post #3 of this thread. He should have gone a long time ago.
Last edited by An0n0m0us; 02 May 2017 at 10:21 PM.
#107
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I've felt exactly the same way since the 8-2 mate. I didn't even watch the game Sunday because I knew that would happen. It's a sorry state of affairs what is happening to the football club. The once great identity which was sitting upstairs has slowly been ripped apart. It will help getting rid of the Wenger, but the major problem is the board.
#111
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So Lacazette is a done deal not the established World class striker we should have got like Morata or Costa or Aguero etc. One good season in the French league hardly makes him worth £52m
#112
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He's got a good scoring record and the type of player we need at the moment. In terms of money these days that's a decent deal at £52 especially when the likes of morata are going around the £70 mill mark which is ridiculous in my eyes
#113
Pontificating
Agreed and I wouldn't call him an established world class striker either.
Lacazette will do well for the Gooners imho
That said I'll take Morata right now, i'll take anyone to United
#115
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I'd say Morata is far more proven having played for Real Madrid and Juventus than Lacazette who has had 1 good season with Lyon.
If World class strikers are £70m plus then it shows Lacazette is well short of that. It's another 'cheap' answer by the Arsenal board.
They should have paid the money for Suarez instead of the p!ss taking offer they made Liverpool he would have paid for himself with how good he is.
The rumours of £125m offer for mbappe means nothing as everyone knows full well he isn't going to choose Arsenal they can offer £200m it's meaningless.
If World class strikers are £70m plus then it shows Lacazette is well short of that. It's another 'cheap' answer by the Arsenal board.
They should have paid the money for Suarez instead of the p!ss taking offer they made Liverpool he would have paid for himself with how good he is.
The rumours of £125m offer for mbappe means nothing as everyone knows full well he isn't going to choose Arsenal they can offer £200m it's meaningless.
#116
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I'd say Morata is far more proven having played for Real Madrid and Juventus than Lacazette who has had 1 good season with Lyon.
If World class strikers are £70m plus then it shows Lacazette is well short of that. It's another 'cheap' answer by the Arsenal board.
They should have paid the money for Suarez instead of the p!ss taking offer they made Liverpool he would have paid for himself with how good he is.
The rumours of £125m offer for mbappe means nothing as everyone knows full well he isn't going to choose Arsenal they can offer £200m it's meaningless.
If World class strikers are £70m plus then it shows Lacazette is well short of that. It's another 'cheap' answer by the Arsenal board.
They should have paid the money for Suarez instead of the p!ss taking offer they made Liverpool he would have paid for himself with how good he is.
The rumours of £125m offer for mbappe means nothing as everyone knows full well he isn't going to choose Arsenal they can offer £200m it's meaningless.
I agree Morata has better experience in terms of the leagues and clubs he's played in but still a bit fresh.
I think Lacazette will pleasantly surprise you
You're spot on with the Mbappe story but Arsenal do that every season don't they and you know full well it ain't going to happen.
So when do you want me to drop Smalling off at the Emirates
#117
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please do he will still be better than Gabriel!
I hope you are right about Lacazette but I have my reservations as the Premier League is vastly different to Ligue 1 and he won't stroll it over here.
Oh and it's now apparently £80m for Lemar as the next target. £80m? Is he really considered World class and up there with other £80m+ rated players?
I hope you are right about Lacazette but I have my reservations as the Premier League is vastly different to Ligue 1 and he won't stroll it over here.
Oh and it's now apparently £80m for Lemar as the next target. £80m? Is he really considered World class and up there with other £80m+ rated players?
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#118
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So Aubameyang is available for £70m and Chelsea have been offered him. Just more proof we went for a cheap answer as I know who i'd rather have up front for Arsenal but of course he isn't French
I see Wenger has already trotted out the same old line about will strengthen further if the right players become available but it's not easy as we have such great players What total utter b0ll0cks.
So £45m (+ a future possible £7m in extras) spent on one player with possibly losing Sanchez and he thinks that's his Summer business done. Yeah that's really fixed all our weaknesses in the team
That 2 year extension to his contract was just condemning Arsenal fans to another 2 years of misery with Wenger in charge. What I would give to be able to interview Wenger on camera and put him on the spot over lack of signings and transfer policy and appalling management of player contracts.
I see Wenger has already trotted out the same old line about will strengthen further if the right players become available but it's not easy as we have such great players What total utter b0ll0cks.
So £45m (+ a future possible £7m in extras) spent on one player with possibly losing Sanchez and he thinks that's his Summer business done. Yeah that's really fixed all our weaknesses in the team
That 2 year extension to his contract was just condemning Arsenal fans to another 2 years of misery with Wenger in charge. What I would give to be able to interview Wenger on camera and put him on the spot over lack of signings and transfer policy and appalling management of player contracts.
Last edited by An0n0m0us; 12 July 2017 at 11:04 AM.
#119
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