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Old Jan 25, 2016 | 07:37 PM
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At the end of the day Giggs can only do so much, its the managers job, hes changed the style of play, if Giggs went against the manger he'd end up loosing his job. Can't see it harming if he took over till end of season.
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Old Jan 25, 2016 | 09:01 PM
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Check out this spanish guy laughing at Liverpool and the premier league, really funny.

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Old Jan 25, 2016 | 09:47 PM
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At the end of the day Giggs can only do so much, its the managers job, hes changed the style of play, if Giggs went against the manger he'd end up loosing his job. Can't see it harming if he took over till end of season.
he has been part of 2 failed managers tenures, I just don't see what he can bring to a team lacking in confidence, skill, ability and any other descriptive word you could throw in at the moment, if he could he should be doing it now
It must be awkward with LVG there, but I don't see the players responding much better if he (giggs) takes over till the end of the season

Giggs was immense as a player, I just don't see him being strong enough to manage us permanently (now or in the future)
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Old Jan 25, 2016 | 10:24 PM
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Originally Posted by The Joshua Tree
Check out this spanish guy laughing at Liverpool and the premier league, really funny.

Spanish Laughing Guy reacts to English clubs' performance in Europe - YouTube
Very good
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Old Jan 25, 2016 | 11:02 PM
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Originally Posted by Funkii Munkii
But you can see him retiring ?

He looked shot on Saturday evening
Yep, on both


Originally Posted by elgassi

offer the job to Martin O'neill and Roy Keane until the end of the season
That's a pretty good shout to be fair, but would the current crop respect Keane?

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Old Jan 26, 2016 | 11:12 AM
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Yeah Lvg is shot but you've also got to look at the Chief Exec, Woodward knows that if Lvg goes as a failure it reflects on him very badly, so he is more than happy to talk him out of resigning in the hope he pulls it around saving both their jobs in the process.

EW is half the issue, his short comings in the transfer market are masked by the clubs success off the field and the huge sponsorship deals that have been signed off recently.

it just goes to show how good AF and Gill were at what they did, I'd love to see DG run for the presidency of FIFA.

I said it all season Charlie Austin would have done a job for us, and he just rubbed our noses in it on Saturday, we could have got him for £10-11m in the summer and he goes to Soton for £4m. He would have done a job for any of the top 6 as a back up striker and cheap as chips.

If Lvg doesn't go within 48 hours be it resignation or otherwise then he will be there until the end of the season minimum, you've got two men trying to save their asses right now....

I'll niot always look at stats as they're fairly misleading but there is nothing misleading about....

lowest points total after 23 games since the Prem came into being
Worst goals total of any Prem season after 23 games
Worst goals at home of any prem season after 23 games
Lowest amount of shots, let alone shots on target since Jesus was a baby

and the list continues...
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Old Jan 27, 2016 | 06:29 PM
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^ agree with above,
but would you not think an organisation like us (MU) would have had the foresight to have the next manager in place a year or so before SAF jacked in, most leading companies have a mentoring period in place when major changes are in the pipe line
So for me this was the start of the demise the last couple of years of the greatest era in our history SAF's reign (along with an ageing over achieving squad)
That's times long gone, we need to look to the future

I wonder how Arsenal address the Wenger retiral ?

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Old Jan 28, 2016 | 02:14 PM
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I think it's proven that it will be difficult for Arsenal just as it has been with United, it always will be in a league like ours, not so much of a problem in Spain with their mickey mouse set up
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Old Jan 28, 2016 | 04:46 PM
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You do know hes not taking about that at all

Straight away you can tell thats older video

Took me 5 mins to find another one

made me laugh though





Originally Posted by The Joshua Tree
Check out this spanish guy laughing at Liverpool and the premier league, really funny.

Spanish Laughing Guy reacts to English clubs' performance in Europe - YouTube

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Old Jan 28, 2016 | 05:43 PM
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there's another Funny Clip with Hitler talking about Ronaldo signing for Real Madrid, it's good
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Old Feb 1, 2016 | 03:14 PM
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Well thats Pep gone to City then. Saw the Sky News notification flash up on my phone and at first glance thought it said United. No surprise he has gone to City - ready made team no real challenge.
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Old Feb 1, 2016 | 03:45 PM
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Originally Posted by P1Fanatic
Well thats Pep gone to City then. Saw the Sky News notification flash up on my phone and at first glance thought it said United. No surprise he has gone to City - ready made team no real challenge.
Meeeoooow

More a case of knowing he can be given the funds to buy whoever he likes by going to City. Probably the only team that could afford to prize Messi away from Barca although whether he would ever leave Barca is a whole different story.
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Old Feb 1, 2016 | 04:09 PM
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Mr Guardiola, where's your ambition man !!
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Old Feb 1, 2016 | 04:10 PM
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Makes it interesting for United

Unless there is a massive U turn it aint gonna be Jose.
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Old Feb 1, 2016 | 04:49 PM
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Originally Posted by jaygsi
You do know hes not taking about that at all
No kidding Columbo
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Old Feb 1, 2016 | 05:42 PM
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I like the way Pelligrini has handled the whole situation, very professional, we could do worse than give him LVG's job
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Just checking, nice find though

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No kidding Columbo
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Old Feb 1, 2016 | 09:04 PM
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Originally Posted by Funkii Munkii
Makes it interesting for United

Unless there is a massive U turn it aint gonna be Jose.
Sheringham is free
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Old Feb 2, 2016 | 11:42 AM
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Funnily enough I did suggest at work yesterday that we sign him, we need a back up striker

It's clear to see United are more interested in brokering sponsorship deals on the global playing field rather than worry about what's happening on the pitch, what they need (Ed W) to understand is if the team isn't playing well, qualifying for the ECL, winning titles and pots then the sponsorship will dry up and they wont be able to command the premiums they currently enjoy.

Looks like Woodward will learn the hard way
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Old Feb 3, 2016 | 10:47 AM
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A tired Stoke or a reinvigorated United

let's see how Sunday goes

2nd goal in particular was like rolling back the years to the 1998-2001 era
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Old Feb 3, 2016 | 12:13 PM
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who needs Pep when we've got LVG

yes great performance, I hope some of the Rooney knockers will lay off him now, a fit and healthy WR helps make our team tick & win
a bit of decent form at the right time to help us steamroller CFC on Sunday (I hope)
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Old Feb 3, 2016 | 08:55 PM
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I'll always give credit where it's due, that was more like a Manchester United performance. Good quality build up play, some good passing moves and some great goals plus a clean sheet.

As the saying goes "One swallow doesn't make a summer", they have to back up that type of performance with another of similar standard and then back it up over and over again as that's what champion sides do.
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Old Feb 3, 2016 | 10:14 PM
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from tiny acorns mighty oak trees grow
we need to beat a poor Chelsea side and go on a run building confidence as we go
(how many times have we said that recently)
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Old Feb 4, 2016 | 10:21 AM
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It was a good performance but it also was a poor side. And they just sat back and let United play. If they had have just gone for it, United may have been in trouble.
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Old Feb 5, 2016 | 11:19 PM
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I don't like the sound of this

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/35508280

His style like LVG's style wouldn't suit United, i lost all respect for him after what happened with Eva Carneiro and his constant whining about refs and how almost everyone was against them.
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Old Feb 5, 2016 | 11:31 PM
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^^^ I totally agree, he f()cked up big time with Ms Carniero, I just don't fancy him at all

I hope the Utd owners aren't thinking all about the 'jose / pep' so called feud and ill feeling to generate press and publicity instead of concentrating on matters on the pitch

We need to be getting the important things right at our great club, getting back to being a winning successful team with flair and imagination
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He was made to manage Utd, he's a bad loser just like Fergie!.............That's not a bad thing because IMO, bad losers are born winners! The fact that he rebuffed any move to take back over at Real Madrid speaks volumes of how high he regards the Utd job and proves he's not just a Pep Guardiola who has so far made a managerial career of taking over ready made teams who are basically the best in their respected leagues.

Utd need a complete reform including all the coaching staff. Even being the Utd Legend he is, I'd send Giggs packing as well. Let him find his own way in the coaching game instead of trying to baby and nurture him into the next Utd manager. Let him make his mistakes and learn the trade at lower leagues then bring him back if he proves himself.

Utd could do a hell of a lot worse than hiring Mourinho to try and turn around their fortunes and could go through another 3 or 4 managers to even get to someone who is on his level, so appointing Mourinho is a very good move.

I'm not a Utd fan btw, or a Chelsea fan.
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Old Feb 6, 2016 | 12:46 PM
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I've said the same with regards Giggs, he hasn't instilled any confidence as a coach in my eyes during the recent managerial woes at MU, he needs to train the kids, scout for the next Giggs, Rooney or King Cantona or leave United completely

I'm not a fan of JM, I'd rather go for Simeone or Ronald Koeman
Jose will at best would stay 2-3 years, with these other guys (all things going well) we could get some stability
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Old Feb 8, 2016 | 09:33 AM
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more like the United of old, I'm not a Mata fan whatsoever, but I he had a fantastic game yesterday, he did everything I thought he was unable to do - move fast(ish), his link up play was great
Something has gone wrong with Memphis, he's just not clicking at all, nice to see Lingard stepping up
I felt sorry for LVG yesterday that they couldn't hold out after all the pi$h he's taken over the last few months and with all the Jose talk before the game, it must be an awful feeling every day listening to reports you're getting sacked, JM's got your job
LVG isn't the manager for me, we need a new manager like the above post, definitely not Jose
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We lost some shape when Lingaard went off and Depay just looked lost - very much like Di Maria. We had a fantastic break with players over and rather than a simple cut back he passes the ball down the line. Great opportunity to go 2 up was lost.

Annoyed we drew but much better performances and several decent chances.
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