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Old Sep 11, 2015 | 01:27 PM
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Wasnt me that mentioned dead babies
No but a couple of boo hoo shots of dead kids and the pathological altruists go in to full meltdown.
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Old Sep 11, 2015 | 01:37 PM
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in my opinnion we have enough scroungers and free loaders and pickpockets thankyou very much
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Old Sep 11, 2015 | 01:48 PM
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Originally Posted by 53
No but a couple of boo hoo shots of dead kids and the pathological altruists go in to full meltdown.
It's the excuses we are getting now some of us are pointing out the anomolous nature of the "refugees", that get to me.

1. Most of the "refugees" seem to be young males?
That's because they left their women and children in Syrian safe camps so as to cross Europe looking for asylum, before sending for them.

2. This guy was pictured as an ISIS fighter last year?
No, no, it's not him, it's a coincidence..........:rolleyes :

3. Why are they shown throwing their wives and children onto railway tracks?
Oh, they are desperate.

4. Why are they refusing water and food in Budapest on boarding trains, and burning blankets and food in Calais?
Not halal..........

5. ISIS bragged that they would have 50,000 trained fighter in Europe this year. Now we are opening our doors?
How could they have started all this just to get terrorists into Europe?

BTW: they didn't, but by God, they are taking the chance when it appears.
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Old Sep 12, 2015 | 07:41 AM
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At the very least we need to indentify and monitor every single "asylum seeker" that gets into Europe. Get their picture, DNA, their iris pattern, and fingerprint, log it on a internationally readable database.

Prioritise families. And no extra benefit entitlement should they start popping out more kids on EU soil. Anyone who comits a crime or is found to be extemist in views is deported.

A Europe wide plan to create and mobilise an attack infantry against IS and attempt to stabilise the countries they exist in; The men who seek Asylum in from these countries will have to do military service in this army.

My main point here is that if the British all ran off to the USA as refugees in WWII and left the Uk for surrender, where/what would we or the UK be now?

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Old Sep 12, 2015 | 09:16 AM
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Originally Posted by ALi-B
At the very least we need to indentify and monitor every single "asylum seeker" that gets into Europe. Get their picture, DNA, their iris pattern, and fingerprint, log it on a internationally readable database.

Prioritise families. And no extra benefit entitlement should they start popping out more kids on EU soil. Anyone who comits a crime or is found to be extemist in views is deported.

A Europe wide plan to create and mobilise an attack infantry against IS and attempt to stabilise the countries they exist in; The men who seek Asylum in from these countries will have to do military service in this army.

My main point here is that if the British all ran off to the USA as refugees in WWII and left the Uk for surrender, where/what would we or the UK be now?
A ground war against IS? Would play right in to their hands!
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Old Sep 12, 2015 | 01:01 PM
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Bit of balance here to counter-act the bleeding heart liberal stories from the BBC, Guardian etc

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZV31...ature=youtu.be


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Old Sep 12, 2015 | 01:15 PM
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Seen most of that, but only on YouTube...the mass media won't show it. When all this goes **** up, the media need stringing out to dry.
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Old Sep 12, 2015 | 01:33 PM
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Huge conspiritard credentials

have you seen the number vids hes put up , he cant possibly have a real job , wouldnt have time
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Old Sep 12, 2015 | 02:50 PM
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I've seen most of those films elsewhere.

The Beeb didn't have anything about the Calais migrants burning half a tonne of blankets and food. Yet it was on the french news.
They showed french CRS apparently harassing a Muslim family, but failed to show the guy chuck his wife and baby onto train tracks...French TV showed that.
They didn't show the migrants trying to pull an old lady out of her car in Italy.
They didn't show the refused food and water.
They didn't show the rock flinging, the violence in Rotherham and they never show the Muslims in places like Luton, ruling the roost.

We have problems and the Beeb are hiding them, for whatever reason.
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Old Sep 12, 2015 | 05:01 PM
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Originally Posted by JTaylor
A ground war against IS? Would play right in to their hands!

What's the alternative? Make them into a political party ála Sinn Fein?

Syrians et al cannot just keep running from their problems. Imagine if every British man in the UK did that in 1939?
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Old Sep 12, 2015 | 05:19 PM
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Originally Posted by ALi-B
What's the alternative? Make them into a political party ála Sinn Fein?

Syrians et al cannot just keep running from their problems. Imagine if every British man in the UK did that in 1939?
It wasn't a civil war and it wasn't sectarian. Additionally, you'll strengthen not hinder IS if you send ground troops in. There's no solution, merely the containment operation that's currently in play. We weren't able to defeat the Taliban, what makes you think we can extirpate IS?
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Old Sep 12, 2015 | 07:50 PM
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Originally Posted by JTaylor
It wasn't a civil war and it wasn't sectarian. Additionally, you'll strengthen not hinder IS if you send ground troops in. There's no solution, merely the containment operation that's currently in play. We weren't able to defeat the Taliban, what makes you think we can extirpate IS?
It took several years to build-up the men, materials and plan for the recapture of continental Europe from the ***** in WWII. Fair enough it's a different kind of war going on against IS, but don't you think medium or long-term plans should at least be looked at to eventually retake the territory they hold by force if they're stil there 10 years from now?
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Old Sep 12, 2015 | 08:17 PM
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Originally Posted by markjmd
It took several years to build-up the men, materials and plan for the recapture of continental Europe from the ***** in WWII. Fair enough it's a different kind of war going on against IS, but don't you think medium or long-term plans should at least be looked at to eventually retake the territory they hold by force if they're stil there 10 years from now?
Yes, it should of course be looked at and no doubt is and has been, but the very best recruitment scenario for IS is for the 'infidels' to invade the 'Caliphate'. This is why I've been so pessimistic about a solution for so long. They're like a monster who grows two tentacles for every one you cut off. Virtually all the jihadist outfits around the globe have pledged allegiance to IS (with, perversely, the exception of AQ who deem them too brutal) so an allied force would need to look at a global solution, not just one limited to Northern Iraq and vast swathes of Syria. The West and its allies are in trouble on this one.

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Old Sep 12, 2015 | 08:20 PM
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Originally Posted by chucky1970
in my opinnion we have enough scroungers and free loaders and pickpockets thankyou very much
It's called Liverpool pal
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Old Sep 12, 2015 | 08:40 PM
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Originally Posted by dpb
Huge conspiritard credentials

have you seen the number vids hes put up , he cant possibly have a real job , wouldnt have time
Lol, Alex Jones, and infowars.com

Conspirato fuctard extraordinaire


Simply marvel at the idiocy and thickory, please watch it all it is great TV - and remember folks, coz that cvnt shouts it enough INFOWARS.COM

Form your opinions on YouTube - because your too thick to work it out on you own

If you are lazy fast forward to 3.50 mins odd



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Originally Posted by hodgy0_2
Lol, Alex Jones, and infowars.com

Conspirato fuctard extraordinaire


Simply marvel at the idiocy and thickory, please watch it all it is great TV - and remember folks, coz that cvnt shouts it enough INFOWARS.COM

Form your opinions on YouTube - because your too thick to work it out on you own

If you are lazy fast forward to 3.50 mins odd


Alex Jones blasts at the BBC One Sunday Politics - YouTube
As soon as AJ started 'talking' I had to switch off. I genuinely find it too stressful to listen to.
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Old Sep 12, 2015 | 09:08 PM
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Well he has a large constituency that believes his cr4p

The irony being that he probably uses really good accountants to protect the money he makes, peddling **** to "sheeple"

The battleground is poverty, ignorance, lack of education and empowerment

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Old Sep 12, 2015 | 09:16 PM
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Andrew Neil's reaction at the end is pricless
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Old Sep 12, 2015 | 09:30 PM
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Originally Posted by hodgy0_2
Andrew Neil's reaction at the end is pricless
Ok, I watched it.

The really sad thing is that there are actual conspiracies that the 1% can get away with because they have AJ as a patsy. He misrepresents and misappropriates the very cause he claims to champion. No wonder the illuminati keep him alive.
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Maybe if Syria got it's own country in order these people wouldn't come ....
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Originally Posted by Dirk Diggler 75
Maybe if Syria got it's own country in order these people wouldn't come ....
Explain how that's going to happen.
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Old Sep 12, 2015 | 09:36 PM
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Originally Posted by JTaylor
Explain how that's going to happen.
Remove the dictator that is assad,then simply set up a democracy ....
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Old Sep 12, 2015 | 09:40 PM
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Originally Posted by Dirk Diggler 75
Remove the dictator that is assad,then simply set up a democracy ....
Ah, I see.
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Old Sep 12, 2015 | 09:45 PM
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Originally Posted by JTaylor
Ok, I watched it.

The really sad thing is that there are actual conspiracies that the 1% can get away with because they have AJ as a patsy. He misrepresents and misappropriates the very cause he claims to champion. No wonder the illuminati keep him alive.
100% yes
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Old Sep 12, 2015 | 09:47 PM
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Remember INFOWARS.COM

What a banana
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Old Sep 12, 2015 | 09:48 PM
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JTaylor, I'm surprised you've been busy posting today and not protesting with your fellow financially inept liberal brigade?

Just reading about it here - reassuring that if you scroll down to the comments the majority of people do have common sense however

https://uk.news.yahoo.com/refugees-w...0.html#Fiu19TX
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Old Sep 12, 2015 | 09:56 PM
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Originally Posted by Petem95
JTaylor, I'm surprised you've been busy posting today and not protesting with your fellow financially inept liberal brigade?

Just reading about it here - reassuring that if you scroll down to the comments the majority of people do have common sense however

https://uk.news.yahoo.com/refugees-w...0.html#Fiu19TX
I've been at work, Pete.

FWIW, the answer lies somewhere between the naive protesters and your polar opposition. We extend a helping hand to genuine refugees and we guard against the disingenuous. We do not allow all 'migrants' in to this island, that would be cultural suicide, but we do help out where we can. Perhaps you should go on a march, too.
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Old Sep 12, 2015 | 10:40 PM
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Originally Posted by Dirk Diggler 75
Remove the dictator that is assad,then simply set up a democracy ....


Thankfully Corbyn will see to it this particular future bloodbath waiting to happen might be averted
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Old Sep 13, 2015 | 12:31 PM
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Originally Posted by Dirk Diggler 75
Remove the dictator that is assad,then simply set up a democracy ....
Remove Assad and present Syria to ISIS on a plate. What could possibly go wrong.
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Originally Posted by Dirk Diggler 75
Remove the dictator that is assad,then simply set up a democracy ....
No offence, but that hasn't worked too well in Iraq or Afghanistan has it?
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