ditchmyster

iTrader: (7)

It's about the whole package, big numbers are for straight lines and flat surfaces, especially on the type of road Shaun describes above, also agree you'll need to be one hell of a driver to pedal a RWD car as well as some of these modern hot hatches, you'll probably be having more fun in the RWD but you'll be going slower or risking life and limb of not just yourself but others out there too to keep up.

john banks

Although I didn't like the R, it would probably be the one I would buy simply because of the size of the market I could develop tuning hardware and software for. If I could sort funding, how would open source Golf R tuning sound? I am leaving my job and looking to stir something new up

Shaun

This understeer malarkey is over stated imo. Yes it exists, but nothing that gets in the way by any stretch of the imagination.


Not all A45's come with the Dunflops Matt (which are OEM on the 18's, and were the wheels/tyres fitted to the review cars).... I have the Continental Contact Sports (as I'm on 19's) which are very soft and provide loads of grip. The only problem is they wear too quickly and don't have very stiff sidewalls. Grip though, is certainly not an issue with these tyres. I will however move to the PSS's when these expire.


Engine wise, yes yours will pull early..... but not by much. The setup in the AMG is none like you've probably experienced before with a 2ltr. It's phenomenally responsive, and pulls hard from 2k all the way to the rev limit. I understand your engine pulls earlier, but runs out of puff at the top end. Powerband is probably as wide on both, just at slightly different rpm points. You drive the 2ltr like it should be driven, and it's not a problem imo. The A45 setup is leagues ahead of the JDM 2ltr twinscroll, and performs like a much bigger capacity engine imo. To get an easy 400/400 out of a 2ltr, yet retain awesome driveability is a pretty amazing feat, based on what has come before it.



In response to your point about EVO.... well Chris Harris said that if you can afford it... buy the A45. If you can't, buy the M135i.


Reviews mean **** to me..... it's what I feel and want that counts. This stuff is very subjective and both cars are clearly awesome in their own way.


I love 2ltr turbo cars.... always have and I suspect always will.

Shaun

Market is massive John (R's and S3's jointly sold over 6k cars in the UK during 2014!!!!), and dare I say it, is the modern era Subaru replacement.
Do it!!!

Matteeboy

What I'm saying is it would be close and dependent slightly on conditions just like a less powerful FWD car (eg Tony's RCZ-R) would give both our cars a run for their money on the right roads.

Both the A45 and M135 have fallen off the media's "new shiny toy" list anyway but Evo did rather slate the Merc whereas Chris had previously waxed lyrical about the BM; the RS3 vs M135i test was a prime example.

I just don't like four cylinders much; yes we have one in the Subaru (no turbo) but at least it has a bit of Subaru character, great throttle response and is a boxer setup.

Apart from in the über light Caterham style cars, I just don't like four pots even in they develop 500bhp. Same with Haldex; it just instantly removes a layer of fun in pursuit of outright grip.

alanbell

iTrader: (6)

Not that I would get one but is the golf r better than merc ?

Matteeboy

I'd get the Merc over the Golf any day but the latter does do comfort a bit better.
It's also sounds great; if you're a fan of food blenders.

alanbell

iTrader: (6)

Lol Mattee, just asking, you know im a Audi fan , My next car will be a S8.

Matteeboy

Massive power from a big V8; awesome.
Proper man car

Shaun

Proper old mans car you mean.

john banks

[With quivering lip and incipient rage] b...b...b...but it's not!

alanbell

iTrader: (6)

your wrong . or is it young men who could afford one get a sports car type of car ,

Matteeboy

One word;

Ronin.

john banks

Dubious perhaps.

stilover

Not the same without Stratham

alanbell

iTrader: (6)

No both good

alanbell

iTrader: (6)

Shaun

That's the Audi image nowadays for me Alan. Old and stuffy.

Audis' RS3 typifies their image. Nothing they do is really any "fun" to me..... their range is just too stuffy imo. Audi's are great cars no doubt, but being "great" doesn't fill my helmet up with blood.

I'd buy one as a daily driver, but never as something to pull out of the garage to have some fun in.

It's horses for courses, and personally I think our intended use and reason for buying is what influences many of our decisions with car buying. There is certainly nothing wrong with that, and in essence the absolute reality.

I personally have no brand loyalty when it comes to cars, as there are so many great cars out there to buy.

I wanted a chav mobile and wanted the best I could get. I know my roots.

Matteeboy

Or Statham?

Alan; one of the best car scenes ever IMO; the S8 bit.

stevebt

iTrader: (8)

Alan why not get an Audi s5 as it looks better and it will do you and the missus fine with two doors.

john banks

They are slow compared to an S8, have old interior and electronics and feel cheap in comparison. S8 much better value for what you get.

http://www.crailraceway.co.uk/dragst...ate=2015-03-29

Car number 4 was a stage 2 tuned S4 3.0TFSI with claimed 480BHP, which is the same engine as the fastest S5. Car number 1 is stage 1 S8.

stevebt

iTrader: (8)

I looked at an a5 but it was olďer than alan will want being a 2009 and it had the 4.2ktr v8.

john banks

They are slower still, stage 1 S8 has almost double the power and more than double the torque, similar weight to S5 cabriolet.

alanbell

iTrader: (6)

Steve, Ive had a A5, would not get another, John your S8 1/4 mile is good.

alanbell

iTrader: (6)

Hi John, drove a standard S8 today very very nice engine, the car same as mine D4 , but as you know mine is a remapped 4.2 tdi , But the S8

stevebt

iTrader: (8)

I thought you wanted an rs6?

stevebt

iTrader: (8)

I went to Crail one day and only managed 12seconds with 650bhp impreza on goodyear f1's, a lot of spinning and changing into 2nd gear at just shy of 8000rpm and only a few foot from where I launched the car. The Wallace Evo sitting at 800bhp was only managing mid 11's and it was funny I ended up 4th fastest car of the day.

john banks

Glad you like it Alan. Steve, it's not bad for an understated self drive limo that looks like an A4, you can see why I like them. The Crail runs were also damp, lots of slip in the first few gears.

Littleted

Just seen that M2 post, 365bhp seems a bit tame for BMW... Bet it'll be fun though. However does look like an M1 as its kinda same chassis or look....

I must stop looking at cars need a bathroom and kitchen, before the Gt4 lol

alanbell

iTrader: (6)

no ive had one, my next Audi will be a S8