Dingdongler

Thanks

An0n0m0us

No problem.

Also going back to your original post, the 33-46mb estimate given to you for fibre broadband is based on your distance from your green telephone cabinet in the street that you are connected to. I get near the top end of the maximum possible as I am close to the cabinet, the further away you are the lower the speed. So to get much faster speeds than you are being quoted you would need to go to cable broadband with Virgin if they have their services in your street (or move house to one next to a green cabinet )

bioforger

iTrader: (1)

I'm about to get fibre for the 1st time, will probably go with BT, am i right in thinking that the homehub can only be plugged into the master socket and any internal extensions to other rooms won't work as they cant deal with the faster speeds? This is a problem as my master socket is downstairs in a hallway and my PC room is upstairs on an extension from another room currently on ADSL. Running extension cables up the stairs wont work, also it would need to go under carpet, which i believe BT won't do. So i guess they can move the master socket closer to my PC room, so i can run their extension kit from that when they install it? I know i could connect wirelessly to the homehub but that will affect the performance, so that's a no go.

Ooperbum

They will only move the master socket if you don't have extensions running from it. Other wise they will run a data extension (cat5 cable and a socket for a RJ11). They can run it externally.

bioforger

iTrader: (1)

mmm mine does have 1 extension running from it, isn't the data extension limited to 30m though? Cant see that being long enough to go outside around the house and up a level.

bioforger

iTrader: (1)

Can you call out an Openreach engineer to analyse exactly what you need to get fibre installed before ordering with an ISP? I'm get conflicting advice from different places/ISP's etc on exactly what the engineer will and won't do.

Ooperbum

It is limited to 30m. And no, Opencoonts won't come out to see before the install. They will charge £130.00

Your best bet is to **** off the extension and get the master socket moved to your dungeon.

bioforger

iTrader: (1)

Can't **** off the extension as i have phones upstairs that need it! Surely they have ways around that. In all the pages i've read theres no mention of extensions being an issue off the master socket, are you sure that's right Will?

Ooperbum

It does depend what sort of cable you have running off the master. I have seen some that are that sheet, when they make a phone call, their hub drops sync if your extension cable is quite modern it will be OK, will lose a couple of meg though.

P.S. You can lose the extension. Just get cordless phones you tight ****

Ooperbum

Or if the engineer is that skilled, he can turn the extension into your master

bioforger

iTrader: (1)

Yea probably will just **** off the extension or go cordless (extra cost!). What gets my goat is you have to commit to an order whether you like it or not and you have no idea on whether the openreach engineer can actually achieve or install it how you want it installed until he turns up on the install date!

And also no mention of the £130 charge from the ISP's if the master socket needs relocating! Some say engineer does it FOC others say there's a fee, do they even have the process sorted out in their own heads??

mart360

Forget the bollox about master and extensions...

My socket was a box in the hall, opening it up revealed 4 wires of which only 2 ran into a chocolate type block and from there two further wires into the back of the box

My router was in the loft! as thats where everything was set up.. so from the box, was an extension cable (hard wired) to a socket in the loft..

I used to run vanilla BB and used telnet & dsl tools to alter the SN ratio to push the UL/DL speeds to the max


I got 3m DL & .5m UL

When i went to fibre the engineer just ran the original cables into the back of a new master socket (lol) why not just leave the old bloody socket

Plugging the new HH (modem & router) directly into the new socket gave me 35m DL & 5m UL

As soon as the engineer had gone made a new cable using an old plug and spliced it into a cat 5 network cable to run up to the loft.

Plugging the new routerhub into the other end gave me

35m DL & 5m UL

All you need to do is not faf about too much with the setup in the first few days, as the software at the exhange is far more agressive then with adsl and will dump you back to a lower speed for stability ... i havnt found a way to tweak this yet

Mart

bioforger

iTrader: (1)

Why on earth would you keep the router in the loft?

Ooperbum

Chocolate type block?

Dingdongler

Ok so I've gone over to Virgin fibre for broadband. As some mentioned the wireless router is poor. I'm after some help to choose a replacement please. It needs to be a plug and play device that will just work.

Suggestions please.

Littleted

http://www.asus.com/uk/Networking/RTAC87U/

Or

http://www.netgear.co.uk/home/produc...ers/R8000.aspx


Best two currently out ding but pricy, failing that get the cheaper versions and use wifi extenders through develo plugs

Dingdongler

Thanks mate, I'm happy to spend that much to get the right result.

Are they completely plug and play? Do I just plug the Virgin cable in and off I go?

Cheers

Matteeboy

BT here but it took two YEARS after telling us we'd have it to actually get it!
They had to dig up the road and garden and drill a wall but the result is great; a much more powerful router (our office is a fair way from it), 75 MB speed.
Pretty happy with it.

bioforger

iTrader: (1)

Got my FTTC last month with Plusnet, 45 down 11 up, so over 5MB/s on dloads and im 8-900m from the cabinet, so not too shabby for £16pm + line rental. Have to say although its an average sync speed, its blindingly fast The +net router is cheap and cheerful but does the job perfectly.

The engineer i had didn't have any issue moving the master socket upstairs as part of the install and now i have a nice setup with a data socket in my PC room from the data cable extension. Just remember to ply them with tea n biscuits if you are getting it done

jaygsi

iTrader: (46)

Be lucky you can get fibreopitic broadband i'm still on standard broadband with dial up speed lol

And whats this console in first link

silver-sub

Cross between a PS3 and Nintendo

Probably for advertising purposes

Littleted

Ding you'll still need the Virgin router plugged in as this terminates there FPLUG.

Are you ok with logging into the modem?
If you are

Login to the Virgin router and find the menu that says modem only mode.....click that and it will reboot...

You then take an Ethernet cable from I think from port 1 and pipe that direct into your new fancy modems WAN port... That's it...

Control everything from the new fancy one, leave the Virgin one alone... If you really struggle PM me I,lol try help on the blower, worse case mate you can press the reset on the Virgin router and it reverts back...

Check out the two routers I sent, the asus is what I was going to buy, however the net gear I've not researched but is also meant to be very good... Won't go wrong with either to be honest...

Dingdongler

Thanks mate.

The netgear has some mixed reviews, especially on www.amazon.com, quite a few people having problems with it. Asus is the way I'm headed at the moment.

bioforger

iTrader: (1)

yea go for the ASUS definitely.

hodgy0_2

If you have a large house, and want internet access in all of it, then IMO you need a mixture of wired and wireless

And to get decent wireless coverage throughout you need more than one zone

I have two wireless zones "front" and "rear", (all cat5,d to the internet modem)

The network services (printers, NAS drives, Xbox) are wired into the LAN

Dingdongler

Hodgy, the whole house is hardwired with cat6 cable so I have a solid ethernet output in most rooms, some have two.

Just trying to get the wireless side sorted out. The switch to Virgin has unleashed the potential of much much higher speeds but as others have mentioned the Virgin hub has poor wifi signal.

hodgy0_2

Sure, but my point is that it is unrealistic to expect a solid wifi signal throughout the house with one wireless access points/router

Fine if you only need it in one area, say kitchen or living rooms - but if you need the wireless signal to "flood" the entire house you may need two

Dingdongler

Ok, got it.

That then raises the question as to the best way to do that. Having searched the net there seems to be various approaches ie having a second access point, using a wifi extender etc. I'm keen to avoid the powerline extenders as one of the problem areas is the kitchen and when I used one there before the microwave kept interfering with the signal.

Thanks

Matteeboy

While this place is hardly a mansion, it's still a big, 5 bedroom house with the router downstairs at the front and the office upstairs at the back; our old router struggled but the Infinity one is ideal; full signal even at the end of the (pretty large) back garden.

You can always get a mains signal booster; loads make them and they apparently work well.

You might even up going a bit OTT unless you have a mansion with two foot thick stone walls.

Littleted

Always a ball ache getting a great signal anywhere, the asus is the best of a,bunch, but I'd most prob run some discreet extender In the back of,the house to expand it

I don't have cat 5 or 6 so have to rely on the Devolo plug with wifi which works fine. But if I was like you ding I'd get that asus and a wifi extender and dot them about maybe asus ones so they clone the wifi?

http://www.asus.com/uk/Networking/EAN66/