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Old Jan 20, 2015 | 01:50 PM
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The very fact that the battery still only reads 12V with the engine running, and thus the alternator supposedly charging, leads me to think it's alternator related.

MIGHT be heat related too: increasing temperature causing a break to widen enough to stop current flow?

When you second click the key, (before the starter turns) does the charging warning light come on at all?

It should...and if it doesn't, the alternator isn't being excited and won't charge.
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Old Jan 20, 2015 | 05:26 PM
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Originally Posted by alcazar
The very fact that the battery still only reads 12V with the engine running, and thus the alternator supposedly charging, leads me to think it's alternator related.

MIGHT be heat related too: increasing temperature causing a break to widen enough to stop current flow?

When you second click the key, (before the starter turns) does the charging warning light come on at all?

It should...and if it doesn't, the alternator isn't being excited and won't charge.
So as I have replaced the alternator, the complete fuse box and it's contents, the battery (for a fully charged and proven one) and the fuel pump runs as it should.

When I turn the key to postion two I have the following dash lights -

1. CEL.
2. Handbrake.
3. Oil.
4. Seat Belt.

Forgive my ignorance but I take it the the "battery" symbol should be illuminated to?

Could the harness from the alternator to the battery and beyond be at fault?
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Old Jan 20, 2015 | 06:13 PM
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Yes I believe the battery light should also be lit at that stage and then go out once started.
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Old Jan 20, 2015 | 06:14 PM
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I wonder could there be an issue with the instrument cluster?
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Old Jan 20, 2015 | 06:22 PM
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Originally Posted by piehole1983
I wonder could there be an issue with the instrument cluster?
Info, perrrrlleeease!
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Old Jan 20, 2015 | 06:29 PM
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if the charging light bulb has gone, it won't charge, simple.
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Old Jan 20, 2015 | 06:36 PM
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Originally Posted by alcazar
if the charging light bulb has gone, it won't charge, simple.
Stand by. Tomorrow should be interesting.
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Old Jan 20, 2015 | 06:44 PM
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Check fuse number 13 in the normal fuse box. Yours is a bug isn't it?
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Old Jan 20, 2015 | 06:48 PM
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Originally Posted by piehole1983
Check fuse number 13 in the normal fuse box. Yours is a bug isn't it?
JDM Blob WRX.
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Old Jan 20, 2015 | 06:49 PM
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Originally Posted by The Trooper 1815
JDM Blob WRX.
Cool. I think I've got the right info here then. Can you check that and report back?

EDIT: Just realised you said blob lol
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Old Jan 20, 2015 | 06:52 PM
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It's the same fuse anyway, can you check it then?
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Old Jan 20, 2015 | 06:54 PM
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Originally Posted by alcazar
if the charging light bulb has gone, it won't charge, simple.
As crazy as this sounds I think you could be correct according to the wiring diagrams, if the fuse hasn't gone that is.
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Old Jan 20, 2015 | 07:47 PM
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Originally Posted by The Trooper 1815
Info, perrrrlleeease!
i had an issue in my car where i damaged the loom when putting in hawk sti sweeping dials.
i had to modify a few wires and one became broken in the connector and caused a similar fault.
its pretty easy to change the loom out as it plugged in just behind the radio.
has someone added a speedo convertor as the car is jdm?
maybe borrow a set of clocks from a similar car just to see if the battery light works as it should on ignition.
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Old Jan 20, 2015 | 08:59 PM
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Gents

I am **** wet through from racing back and fore the house clocks in hand. I swapped a few LEDs around and put the clocks in and got the battery light on ignition switch position 2.
And as if by magic the car runs a dream.

Much praise to the mighty Wizard Alcazar. If we ever meet I buy the first round.

Thanks

Ian

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Old Jan 20, 2015 | 09:07 PM
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Well done for getting to the bottom of it. This is what forums are all about
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Old Jan 20, 2015 | 09:07 PM
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Cheers, but I've picked it up somewhere...I just passed it on.
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Old Jan 20, 2015 | 09:28 PM
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Bloody marvellous :-)
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Old Jan 20, 2015 | 09:28 PM
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Crazy one and one to remember. Just a note for everyone, this wouldn't happen with STI clocks as they have LEDs instead of filament bulbs.
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Old Jan 20, 2015 | 09:50 PM
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Originally Posted by piehole1983
Crazy one and one to remember. Just a note for everyone, this wouldn't happen with STI clocks as they have LEDs instead of filament bulbs.
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Old Jan 20, 2015 | 09:57 PM
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Originally Posted by fat-thomas
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Oh? Not according to the workshop manuals. Maybe you can enlighten us all.
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Old Jan 20, 2015 | 10:05 PM
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Originally Posted by piehole1983
Crazy one and one to remember. Just a note for everyone, this wouldn't happen with STI clocks as they have LEDs instead of filament bulbs.

The spare Blob STi clocks, who donated the replacement, are all filament bulb types.


I am going to get the LED type if anyone can point me in the right direction.
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Old Jan 20, 2015 | 10:14 PM
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Originally Posted by The Trooper 1815
The spare Blob STi clocks, who donated the replacement, are all filament bulb types. I am going to get the LED type if anyone can point me in the right direction.
Learn something new every day! The workshop manual I looked at shows the STI has LEDs and everything else has filament bulbs. Glad you got it sorted though. Well done.
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Old Jan 20, 2015 | 10:16 PM
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Originally Posted by piehole1983
Learn something new every day! The workshop manual I looked at shows the STI has LEDs and everything else has filament bulbs. Glad you got it sorted though. Well done.
consider yourself enlightened,dont believe everything you read as some have experience
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Old Jan 20, 2015 | 10:18 PM
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Originally Posted by fat-thomas
consider yourself enlightened,dont believe everything you read as some have experience
That I am. I can only go by the info I had to hand and was merely trying to help the OP get closer to the problem.

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Old Jan 20, 2015 | 10:19 PM
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Old Jan 20, 2015 | 10:19 PM
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Originally Posted by piehole1983
That I am. I can only go by the info I had to hand and was merely trying to help the OP get closer to the problem.

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me too and i was correcting your error with experience of owning an sti.
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Old Jan 20, 2015 | 10:23 PM
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Originally Posted by fat-thomas
me too and i was correcting your error with experience of owning an sti.
Which is a good thing, at least I can pass that on if needed again. I take there must be an LED version of the same cluster?
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Old Jan 20, 2015 | 10:26 PM
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Originally Posted by piehole1983
Which is a good thing, at least I can pass that on if needed again. I take there must be an LED version of the same cluster?
yes the jdm blob sti onwards or uk hawk sti


uk stuff up to hawk sti was filament
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Old Jan 20, 2015 | 10:29 PM
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Originally Posted by fat-thomas
yes the jdm blob sti onwards or uk hawk sti uk stuff up to hawk sti was filament
I was using the JDM Blob STI wiring diagram, that's what's happened. Cheers!
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Old Jan 20, 2015 | 11:01 PM
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Christ mate, what a load of bother for a dodgy cluster.

As long as you got it fixed, thats the main thing
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