Paris Shooting
Could you provide me with a link to this poll, please? I would be interested in seeing where it was conducted and by whom. There's also the question of cultural pressure. I'm sure if said poll was conducted in a mosque there would be more positive responses than if it was conducted anonymously over the web. I'd also like to know the educational background of the respondents etc. etc. In other words, just how reliable is the statistic you're citing?
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"In Plymouth, at the preview night at the Theatre Royal, a group of about 40 Christian Voice supporters turned out to sing hymns and hand out leaflets to the audience as they entered the theatre."
A typical example of Devonian barbarism..
A typical example of Devonian barbarism..
I'm sure you'll recall the controversy surrounding Jerry Springer the Opera.
http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jerry...ger:_The_Opera
http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jerry...ger:_The_Opera
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/entertainment/4170297.stm
one common theme though
I think the Sikhs had a play banned - and threats to the playwright a few years ago
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/entertainment/4170297.stm
one common theme though
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/entertainment/4170297.stm
one common theme though
http://news.google.com/newspapers?ni...g=6520,5063327
A very quick search came up with this after 1 IRA atrocity.......
http://news.google.com/newspapers?ni...g=6520,5063327
http://news.google.com/newspapers?ni...g=6520,5063327
The problem is, muslims hate free speech, even thou they do not support terrorism. Thats why they are incompatible with our values. Free speech is the cornerstone of our societies and this right allows everybody to speak their minds freely, and we DONT CARE if your prophet doesnt like it!!! So muslims, if you dont agree with our rules, you should leave the west and move to your barbaric theocracies, where muslims have the right to oppress everybody else
Sky News really are a bunch of tossers. Making out this is a wave of attacks now and could be something much bigger going to happen. FFS no it's not, there were 3 people involved in the Charlie Hebdo attack, 2 have gone one way and holed up and the other gone another and is now holed up with hostages. That is not a wave of attacks, it's the 3 people they are after in 2 different locations and nothing more. The press really are scum trying to scare people into thinking it's a lot more than it is.
Sky News really are a bunch of tossers. Making out this is a wave of attacks now and could be something much bigger going to happen. FFS no it's not, there were 3 people involved in the Charlie Hebdo attack, 2 have gone one way and holed up and the other gone another and is now holed up with hostages. That is not a wave of attacks, it's the 3 people they are after in 2 different locations and nothing more. The press really are scum trying to scare people into thinking it's a lot more than it is.
https://uk.news.yahoo.com/paris-shoo...4.html#VNgdE7U
Sounds like a second hostage situation in a Jewish grocery store now - apparently 2 dead and a family and children taken hostage.
Sounds like a second hostage situation in a Jewish grocery store now - apparently 2 dead and a family and children taken hostage.
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https://uk.news.yahoo.com/paris-shoo...4.html#VNgdE7U
Sounds like a second hostage situation in a Jewish grocery store now - apparently 2 dead and a family and children taken hostage.
Sounds like a second hostage situation in a Jewish grocery store now - apparently 2 dead and a family and children taken hostage.
Sky News really are a bunch of tossers. Making out this is a wave of attacks now and could be something much bigger going to happen. FFS no it's not, there were 3 people involved in the Charlie Hebdo attack, 2 have gone one way and holed up and the other gone another and is now holed up with hostages. That is not a wave of attacks, it's the 3 people they are after in 2 different locations and nothing more. The press really are scum trying to scare people into thinking it's a lot more than it is.
The 18 year old handed himself in as his name was being banded about on social media as being part of the attack and so handing himself in doesn't add up when these 3 are prepared to die for their cause.
Are they? As much as the west are?. The news report I saw last showed vigils being held around the world, and French Muslims going about their daily business (Unless silly me this was made to inspire hate
) Apart from Maz, is there another Muslim on this thread condemning these acts?.
As for freedom of speech, well Shaid lives in England and says he hates the St. Georges Cross. So he can't have the same opinion on freedom of speech as this apparent 68% of Muslims that were surveyed. I can't imagine any of scoobynets Muslim members would get so upset about someone else's opinion, otherwise they'd probably ask for their account to be banned and leave
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) Apart from Maz, is there another Muslim on this thread condemning these acts?. As for freedom of speech, well Shaid lives in England and says he hates the St. Georges Cross. So he can't have the same opinion on freedom of speech as this apparent 68% of Muslims that were surveyed. I can't imagine any of scoobynets Muslim members would get so upset about someone else's opinion, otherwise they'd probably ask for their account to be banned and leave
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The 3rd bloke who is holding up the Jewish grocery shop is the one who killed the police woman yesterday and is the only other person being hunted along with the 2 brothers holed up at the printing industrial unit. He is an 'associate' of the 2 brothers.
The 18 year old handed himself in as his name was being banded about on social media as being part of the attack and so handing himself in doesn't add up when these 3 are prepared to die for their cause.
The 18 year old handed himself in as his name was being banded about on social media as being part of the attack and so handing himself in doesn't add up when these 3 are prepared to die for their cause.
Yes, thanks for catching up
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Interesting point and as you saw on QT last night Vince Cable touched on this. Freedom of speech is only freedom within the context of the law. By that token is it true freedom? The law forbids speech, depiction and literature intended to incite hatred, violence and terrorism. Therefore the whole notion of freedom of speech is within set limits and responsibilities.
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The function of the law of a land is to preserve a society composed of a diverse range of belief systems NOT to legislate for making the views of one belief system sacrosanct above all others.
Effectively this means that NO religion is beyond criticism/satire (free speech) but equally No critique/satire is beyond being held to account by the law (constraints on free speech imposed by the laws pertaining to incitement etc)
The problem here is that these individuals think their belief system takes precedence over the law of the land i.e. that their religion supersedes the law and seek to impose and enforce their belief system on others via heinous criminal acts. That is the key characteristic of all extremism really.
Condolences to those touched by this senseless killing!
Are they? As much as the west are?. The news report I saw last showed vigils being held around the world, and French Muslims going about their daily business (Unless silly me this was made to inspire hate
) Apart from Maz, is there another Muslim on this thread condemning these acts?.
As for freedom of speech, well Shaid lives in England and says he hates the St. Georges Cross. So he can't have the same opinion on freedom of speech as this apparent 68% of Muslims that were surveyed. I can't imagine any of scoobynets Muslim members would get so upset about someone else's opinion, otherwise they'd probably ask for their account to be banned and leave
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) Apart from Maz, is there another Muslim on this thread condemning these acts?. As for freedom of speech, well Shaid lives in England and says he hates the St. Georges Cross. So he can't have the same opinion on freedom of speech as this apparent 68% of Muslims that were surveyed. I can't imagine any of scoobynets Muslim members would get so upset about someone else's opinion, otherwise they'd probably ask for their account to be banned and leave
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