boosted

Been doing some housework

Andaru

Is that the standard oil pick up? Not tempted to use Killer B's pick up?

boosted

Totally standard, never had any issues with oil supply yet?

Andaru

It's not about how much oil it can supply, it's the fact that they snap off and kill engines. Killer B talk about it in this link with 100's of photos here of failures.

I heard about the pickup issues on another forum so had it replaced shortly after I got it and it had a hairline crack which would've opened.

JGlanzaV

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That is for 2.5 oil pick ups that fail....

boosted

I'm sure if there was a problem subaru would of had cars in for a recall?

Andaru

It affects both EJ20 and EJ25, they make both.

So far Subaru has denied it's an issue (like they officially deny head gasket failure is an issue). There was a Subaru tech in Australia who posted on NASOIC that Subaru Australia knew it was a problem and designed a replacement in secret which can only be ordered through Australian dealers.

Current Worldwide/Old Aussie Design


Aussie 'secret' Redesign

boosted

I'm not convinced.
There are thousands of ej's both NA and turbo in Britain, I haven't heard of any failures of this type in person.
Plus you would only need a tiny crack to loose all oil supply on the suction side, engine would be destroyed way before the pick up actually falls off like that. Some scaremongering or propaganda going on here?
I have an oil pressure gauge

Andaru

There was 3 including mine on scottishscoobies last year!

boosted

Just fell off?

boosted

The only difference I can see is the support bracket, the pipe and pickup looks the same to me

MOTORS S GT

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Only ever seen 2.5's fail, never seen a 2.0 fail, its one reason to keep the OE oil pressure switch when putting gauges in, as it shows up the time it takes to get initial oil pressure, while your Defi's etc are still sweeping & calibrating, on failing pick ups it takes a few more seconds to put the light out than normal, & as it cracks more the longer it takes, until complete failure.

Its the induction brazing that causes the pipe to go brittle, & the 2.5's internal vibration that's different to the 2.0.

boosted

Thanks for the information, I'll just run what I have just now.
Defi's lol? You mean daffys? I have a 52mm capillary brake air pressure gauge from a leyland daf lorry in my car as the oil pressure gauge!

Andaru

Mine cracked and the other 2 snapped off, the other 2 where EJ20s, mine is an EJ25. I'll try and find the threads for you.

boosted

Had someone been at them before? I've seen things like this break when people tighten them up incorrectly, ie stressed.
Most imprezas I've seen are around 100,000 miles on oe oil pick ups, no probs

Andaru

One of the ones that went was a stock WRX, the idiot light came on and the guy turned off the engine and got recovered to a garage. He only had 70-80k on his, mine had 107k and nowhere in the service history does it mention any bottom end work. It being too tight will accelerate wear, the weakness is still the braze, the part's only £180 with shipping and taxes so it's worth the relatively small amount for what can take out a whole engine IMO.

DIPSY

Its a wonder no one has made a oil pick up pipe over here and just tig weld the joint's together and to me the pipe wall is to thin so when bending pipe stretch's so wall thickness is thinner .They should clean of excess solder of the pipe been brazed on a wire brush if the solder is eating in to the metal what they say is making the pipe crack

boosted

Only £180! That's a massive part of my budget! Might consider putting another bracket on the other side of the one I've got

piehole1983

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I'm sure with all the metalwork skills you have you could brace it or even make a new one that's not induction heated. I've seen these issues in work when people don't heat pipework properly when brazing. I install refrigeration equipment and use oxy/acetylene to braze everything.

boosted

I was thinking a strip of steel with a bend and hole on the block side and a simple jubilee clip on the pick up side. Not keen on welding oil pickups at all, slag can be left in the bore, wall thickness and strength issues can arise too.

piehole1983

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Sounds spot on. Seems to be the localised heat that's causing the issue with it. Better safe than sorry though, brace it up and forget about it.

boosted

Took some time to manufacture a lightweight aluminium flywheel (ring gear holder in fact) to replace my current subaru item.
Problem being that I'm running two flywheels i affect: subaru one at 11kg and the button flywheel at 8kg. So I've made this one up weighing in at 2.5kg, makes the flywheel weight around factory now.
I'll put it in the new engine when it goes in.

joz8968

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You're just showing off, now!

boosted

Little bit but am I heck paying £250 for one when I can make one for free

joz8968

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Oh, totally. No argument there.

Wish I had such skills... Rather than being the useless dolt, I am.

piehole1983

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Tidy!

joz8968

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But hopefullly not of the bang type.

piehole1983

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lol

Linksfahrer

Hi Boosted , Have you got around to putting the heads on yet ?

I'm searching the net for Head Gaskets 0.6mm MLS ones myself right now , best price
I've found albeit in USA is $72 from flatirontuning , or UK 109 stg from Advanced auto parts or + bolts for 170 stg. So Im thinking of going here , any other suggestions ?

Linksfahrer

Ps Great idea heads in the Dishwasher

But I will be giving it another rinse afterwards before my teapot /cup go back in.

Linksfahrer

PPS Advanced Automotive ( Bristol prices are ex VAt but inc UK delivery ). So Im still looking