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Old Mar 12, 2016 | 09:11 PM
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Originally Posted by MattyB1983
Except the F40 will run the quarter mile in under 12 seconds, in completly standard trim. Yes, your four wheel drive system may well see you off the line first but within a matter of seconds the F40 would be leaving you behind.

I'm really unsure on you, I can't decide if you actually believe this drivel you spout on here or if you are just on a huge wind up.
I also seriously doubt you've done any of these times you shout about, i would imagine you use one of those pointless bhp and speed calculator's that can found online and then you take it as gospel.
Past 1/4 the F40 will blitz me

My point is I'm just 0.7 secs slower than a F40 in the damp over 400 metres. 0.7 secs is f-all, I've shaved more than that in back to back runs just launching 1000rpm higher. Obviously 12.6 to 11.9 will be harder than 13.3 to 12.6 but it'll be dryer!

I have run 12.6 in ****ty conditions!


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This link has me down at 3.99secs to 60mph based on my actual damp 1/8 mile stats but tbh my car drastically slows after 60mph so you've to allow for that. I've used a more technical calculator before that gave me 2.9secs based on a 11.9 sec run which is what I believe is manageable.

http://www.wallaceracing.com/0-60_equation.php

"Based on what I believe is manageable"

Why do you believe it's possible, because an online calculator told you so....???

I just tried your linked calculator with my stats, 1220kg and 405kg.... gave me a 1/4 mile of 10.9 seconds and terminal of 126. But I only managed a 12.7 and 116mph.... what's that tell you ??
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Past 1/4 the F40 will blitz me

My point is I'm just 0.7 secs slower than a F40 in the damp over 400 metres. 0.7 secs is f-all, I've shaved more than that in back to back runs just launching 1000rpm higher. Obviously 12.6 to 11.9 will be harder than 13.3 to 12.6 but it'll be dryer!
0.7 seconds in the 1/4mile world is a little bit more than **** all chap.
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Old Mar 12, 2016 | 09:21 PM
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You seem so focused on 0-60 and 1/4 mile times, I really don't understand why when it means **** all in the real world.

For instance, I ran a 12.7 quarter in my previous classic. That car had over 400bhp and around 370 ftlbs, the car weighed very little over 1200kg.
Now your time was quicker than mine... does that mean your car is a quicker car than mine...?? Ofcourse it's not...
In the real world I don't race over 14 miles, it's the odd blast from the lights, maybe a few fast corners on the local bumpy country roads. I've said many times on here I've beat big power STis/Evos from the traffic lights and it's always been met with ridicule but now people are starting to believe how damn quick the Newage WRX is. (in a straight line of course!)

your slower times means my car has a better power to weight ratio and or ratios for drag racing/launching/straights/loose surfaces, that's all.

My wife can beat me on the twisties in her Golf TDI! I have no bottle. TBH the handling circuit imo has much more to do with driver skill than a car's acceleration prowess.
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Old Mar 12, 2016 | 09:27 PM
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0.7 seconds in the 1/4mile world is a little bit more than **** all chap.
Again, I've shaved 0.7 in back to back runs without drastic change. Over circa 11.5secs I personally think not much is needed to hack vast quantities of time off runs. During my 12.6 I was spinning like a bugger and it was my last run of the day so slowest terminal due to heatsoak. My back bumper actually melted.

I've run a 14.5 at the strip and a 12.6, difference was 18% power increase and 20kg.
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Old Mar 12, 2016 | 09:29 PM
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your slower times means my car has a better power to weight ratio and or ratios for drag racing/launching/straights/loose surfaces, that's all.
How would your lardy low powered WRX have better power to weight than a 400bhp stripped out classic which also ran a 5 speed like yours ???

What I'm trying to say is that 1/4 miles times and 0-60 times mean nothing unless the same driver drives all the cars on the same day on the same track.
I ran a 12.7 in it, but Andy Forrest may well of run a low 11 in it.
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Old Mar 12, 2016 | 09:31 PM
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Originally Posted by MattyB1983
"Based on what I believe is manageable"

Why do you believe it's possible, because an online calculator told you so....???

I just tried your linked calculator with my stats, 1220kg and 405kg.... gave me a 1/4 mile of 10.9 seconds and terminal of 126. But I only managed a 12.7 and 116mph.... what's that tell you ??
You should be doing more than 12.7 with that power in all honesty. Your high terminal does suggest traction issues to me though.

Bob of Aztec performance ran a 11.7 in a classic WRX that has the same power and weight as mine!

Yet another reason I think 11.9 and 3 secs is possible!!!!!!
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Old Mar 12, 2016 | 09:42 PM
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Originally Posted by MattyB1983
How would your lardy low powered WRX have better power to weight than a 400bhp stripped out classic which also ran a 5 speed like yours ???

What I'm trying to say is that 1/4 miles times and 0-60 times mean nothing unless the same driver drives all the cars on the same day on the same track.
I ran a 12.7 in it, but Andy Forrest may well of run a low 11 in it.
A more suitable power to weight ratio for launching. If you stripped back a Nissan GTR to 1200kg it would probably lose a whole second to 0-60 due to a lack of weight holding the torque back. Most production cars running over 400bhp have traction control for launching/early gears which in a way limits the power to the wheels, so you can see why a WRX with low torque at crazy revs can match supercars 0-60 times. Now your car will be launching and putting more power down than most supercars!

0-60 to me means everything, I've lived for the type of thrill that you can achieve legally and safely time and time again. Quick blast from a junction and slow down! Too many fast car owners are dying in Wakefield due to the poor road conditions and as for putting a Subaru on a smooth race-track, I don't believe that's the cars forte and many rwd/fwd drive cars will show it a clean pair of heals. For me the Impreza is all about traction, which means I can beat anything from the lights and out of a sharp corner in all conditions.

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Old Mar 12, 2016 | 09:49 PM
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No matter. You just cannot read. Go back to primary school and try English again....

I said I would pay for your entry to totb to put your car up the strip to prove your bull**** claims. Nothing to do with racing me.

I won't even be at totb.

Nor do I care if you do the handling course.

You will not do 3 sec 0 to 60. End of.

You are such a ****ing moron
You've told me to race you several times too! A Newage 333bhp WRX v A Classic 500bhp WRX to prove that a 333bhp Newage WRX isn't as fast as a 333bhp Newage STI!!! ...this was well before my 0-60 claims too!!!

It's nearly as bad as Brownpantsracing telling all classic owners on here that the Newage WRX 4 pots are a great upgrade for their car then telling me my 4 pots are extremely dangerous in my stripped Newage WRX that weighs as much as a classic!!!!!
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Old Mar 12, 2016 | 09:55 PM
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It takes me 1.8 seconds to 36.57mph in the damp according to Wallaceracing.com, I don't have to change gear again before 60mph at this stage.

http://www.wallaceracing.com/60-footmph.php
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A more suitable power to weight ratio for launching. If you stripped back a Nissan GTR to 1200kg it would probably lose a whole second to 0-60 due to a lack of weight holding the torque back..

So your theory is that a light car with big power will suffer with a slower 0-60 and 1/4 mile time ???
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Old Mar 12, 2016 | 10:24 PM
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Originally Posted by MattyB1983
So your theory is that a light car with big power will suffer with a slower 0-60 and 1/4 mile time ???
So thats the reason why I can beat a V8 Arial Atom in the wifes Fiesta then, couldn't put my finger on it before
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So thats the reason why I can beat a V8 Arial Atom in the wifes Fiesta then, couldn't put my finger on it before


500bhp and 550kg...... Yea, bet that is really slow over the quarter and from standing to 60mph

Oh hang on..... The V8 atom can touch 60mph in two and half seconds..... Now that can't be right surely.... hang on, i'll go check it on the online calculator just to be sure
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It'd run more than 2.5 seconds if it weighed a 1000kg due to being able to launch at much higher revs, having a wider margin of gear select success and limiting spin after changing up gear. That said the Atom has traction/launch control, which was an earlier point about cars with a big power to weight ratio. You start getting over 250lbft per ton and you have to start limiting the power via traction control, reducing revs or slipping the clutch.

A car that light and powerful will come into it's own at around 40mph I'd guess without aids. It'll still be friggin rapid off the mark with sensible throttle mind!

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Old Mar 12, 2016 | 11:35 PM
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So thats the reason why I can beat a V8 Arial Atom in the wifes Fiesta then, couldn't put my finger on it before
My mates R1 has a power to weight ratio of 1000bhp per ton. If he launched his bike at full revs I could walk the 0-60 foot quicker than him.

In fact whenever we've gone out together he's usually at around 20mph before he winds it on from the lights.

Andy Forrest is using some relatively beefy drag wheels to get his power down but it'd be nice to know if he's using any other means to get away so quickly in such a light powerful car.


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Originally Posted by RS_Matt
You've told me to race you several times too! A Newage 333bhp WRX v A Classic 500bhp WRX to prove that a 333bhp Newage WRX isn't as fast as a 333bhp Newage STI!!! ...this was well before my 0-60 claims too!!!

It's nearly as bad as Brownpantsracing telling all classic owners on here that the Newage WRX 4 pots are a great upgrade for their car then telling me my 4 pots are extremely dangerous in my stripped Newage WRX that weighs as much as a classic!!!!!

Yes because you claimed times that are faster than my 550+ hp classic!

Matt stop trying to be a victim, you do not have a fast car. You may have done a half decent time, but it is no where near fast. And you haven't touched my 60ft times.

So stop trying to manipulate what I have said, and using bull**** online calculators that offer no proof at all.

Burden of proof. You claim it. You prove it.
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Matt will you be going to the 0-60 shoot out at York this year?
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Matt will you be going to the 0-60 shoot out at York this year?
Probably not.

Too chicken ****.
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Yes because you claimed times that are faster than my 550+ hp classic!

Matt stop trying to be a victim, you do not have a fast car. You may have done a half decent time, but it is no where near fast. And you haven't touched my 60ft times.
You did an 11.3! I've never once said I'll pass 11.9

I did a 1.8 0-60ft in the damp after parking in a muddy field, it's safe to say I'll be 1.7 in the dry and the 1.3 or so you claimed was a timing error.

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Matt will you be going to the 0-60 shoot out at York this year?
I just hope their 0-60mph timing gear is up this year!!! #becausebigmouth
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Matt, its about time you stepped out from behind your keyboard and put your below average common of garden WRX to the test.......or hush your gums.
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I like the fact you pals...said, 'err...that's 0.8 quicker than his best' ,

Have you seen the bird flying before the timing lights when you were about half way down, that'll explain it
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Matt, its about time you stepped out from behind your keyboard and put your below average common of garden WRX to the test.......or hush your gums.
common of garden WRX?

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I like the fact you pals...said, 'err...that's 0.8 quicker than his best' ,

Have you seen the bird flying before the timing lights when you were about half way down, that'll explain it
I did it by launching just 1,000 higher up the rev range. ...another 1,000rpm and dry conditions and we'll see
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Old Mar 13, 2016 | 02:51 PM
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People ridiculed me because I said I could get into the 12's without proof
People ridicule me because I say I own the longest housecat on Earth without proof
People ridicule me because I say I can get 11.9 without proof

...Turbohot say's I'm the biggest exaggerator around!
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common of garden WRX?



I did it by launching just 1,000 higher up the rev range. ...another 1,000rpm and dry conditions and we'll see
My point being your best was a 13.5 prior to that...how many consistent 12.6 runs have you done, just the 1?
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My point being your best was a 13.5 prior to that...how many consistent 12.6 runs have you done, just the 1?
My previous best was 12.9, I ran it minutes before the 12.6.

My friend was merely commenting that I'd knocked nearly 0.8 seconds off from the day's three initial runs of 13.2 (can't add up!)


My wife said after the 3rd run "Matt you're babying it, just rev the hell out of it."

I've run a 13.3 with just 295bhp/265lbft into a brutal headwind (Banny predicted the exact time too the day before!!!) when the car was heavier. It goes to show you how important it is to get the rpm's up and hold them there when launching.


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Matt...If you was to announce that you was going to run at one of the many events through out the year, I'm certain the hysteria would eclipse that of a Conor Mcgregor fight. I mean who wouldn't want to see you run 2.9 0-60's and sub 11 second passes and still return 45mpg with low compression, ditch finder road tyres and only 300bhp...

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Matt...If you was to announce that you was going to run at one of the many events through out the year, I'm certain the hysteria would eclipse that of a Conor Mcgregor fight. I mean who wouldn't want to see you run 2.9 0-60's and sub 11 second passes and still return 45mpg with low compression, ditch finder road tyres and only 300bhp...
...and a brake sticking on!
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It goes to show you how important it is to get the rpm's up and hold them there when launching.
Get the revs up and blip the throttle when staged. Turbo is doing **** all if you just hold the revs.
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Get the revs up and blip the throttle when staged. Turbo is doing **** all if you just hold the revs.
Since when we're you the local drag racing expert? Don't question Matt. He is the expert!
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