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Old 17 October 2014, 12:51 PM
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Originally Posted by Mouser
He [f1] also shows classic symptoms of HPD and NPD.
Originally Posted by jonc
And most notably, PPD. No one can deny he is a complex individual!
I would like to tell you what you two show classic symptoms of but I'm being polite today

Why not stick to subjects you actually know something about which leaves you both fairly limited in what you can post I grant you, but it would make you look slightly less daft when you do
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Originally Posted by f1_fan
I would like to tell you what you two show classic symptoms of but I'm being polite today
Classic HPD response.

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it would make you look slightly less daft when you do
As daft as someone who had to stand on the train from London to Manchester because he didn't book a seat?
Old 17 October 2014, 04:06 PM
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South west London full of "Ti**s , beer and Chelsea God bless it!! North of Watford = cannot understand English and full of "Victims"
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Originally Posted by Mouser
As daft as someone who had to stand on the train from London to Manchester because he didn't book a seat?
Ah now that's pretty funny. I did actually have a seat reservation but the seat reservation system had failed on the train and the train manager didn't want to try and remove the football thug types that were sat where my seat was and frankly I didn't blame him as they had already told the bloke supposed to be in the seat next to me to eff off. Everyone was in the same boat as every seat just said 'available'... Typical Britain basically. So not so daft after all.

PS 10 out of 10 for the hypocrisy too, I'm sure you get my drift

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Originally Posted by f1_fan
Ah now that's pretty funny. I did actually have a seat reservation but the seat reservation system had failed on the train and the train manager didn't want to try and remove the football thug types that were sat where my seat was and frankly I didn't blame him as they had already told the bloke supposed to be in the seat next to me to eff off. Everyone was in the same boat as every seat just said 'available'... Typical Britain basically. So not so daft after all.
You missed the opportunity to have a bitch at the rail service you were travelling on? Yeah right. Nice little story to include "football thug types". Were they from Manchester?

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PS 10 out of 10 for the hypocrisy too, I'm sure you get my drift
P.S. Time to change your word of the day toilet paper, you've already accused Martin of hypocrisy in an earlier post on this thread.
Old 17 October 2014, 08:54 PM
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I only live half an hour away, and I hate the place, avoid it like the plague.

Full of rude, self-centred, arrogant tossers.
Old 17 October 2014, 09:38 PM
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Originally Posted by Moley_WRX
I only live half an hour away, and I hate the place, avoid it like the plague.

Full of rude, self-centred, arrogant tossers.
Agree with you there, Only place I know where people try to walk through you instead of around you!!

Classic example I have is, I deliver to one of our shops on Tottenham Court Road, No place to park a lorry so hazard lights on and as far to the right hand side I can get on double yellow lines(always get a ticket), anyway when I take stock from the lorry to walk to the shop front door, I get people from all directions literally trying to walk through me, that I have to run around them so I dont get trampled on!! just most people have no respect.

Nicest people in London are the homeless people, I always try and give them a couple of quid, as they seem the most grateful, appreciated people in London, but 9 times out of 10 there usually from somewhere else in the UK!!
Old 17 October 2014, 10:12 PM
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To be honest I do know some kind people in London. Some with large dwellings and some with matchboxes, if not homeless. Even matchbox dwelling friends will put me up in the kitchen under their sink, if it need be. Not as a dead body, but to save my money on hotels, I mean. I think this is quite generous of them.
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Originally Posted by Mouser
You missed the opportunity to have a bitch at the rail service you were travelling on? Yeah right. Nice little story to include "football thug types". Were they from Manchester?
No idea, I didn't wait around to find out. They seemed overly aggressive and a but thick, hence the term football thug types. The cap seemed to fit

As for having a dig at the rail service I actually felt sorry for the train manager, wasn't his fault and he seemed like a decent chap being as he was from Manchester of course.

Originally Posted by Mouser
P.S. Time to change your word of the day toilet paper, you've already accused Martin of hypocrisy in an earlier post on this thread.
Ah so you didn't get my drift then, no surprise really!
Old 17 October 2014, 11:37 PM
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Originally Posted by f1_fan
No idea, I didn't wait around to find out. They seemed overly aggressive and a but thick
You mean like they couldn't spell?

Originally Posted by f1_fan
he seemed like a decent chap being as he was from Manchester of course.
Of course he was.

Originally Posted by f1_fan
Ah so
Yes you are if you catch my drift.
Old 18 October 2014, 12:48 AM
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Originally Posted by scoobyboy1
Agree with you there, Only place I know where people try to walk through you instead of around you!!

Classic example I have is, I deliver to one of our shops on Tottenham Court Road, No place to park a lorry so hazard lights on and as far to the right hand side I can get on double yellow lines(always get a ticket), anyway when I take stock from the lorry to walk to the shop front door, I get people from all directions literally trying to walk through me, that I have to run around them so I dont get trampled on!! just most people have no respect.

Nicest people in London are the homeless people, I always try and give them a couple of quid, as they seem the most grateful, appreciated people in London, but 9 times out of 10 there usually from somewhere else in the UK!!
I've been reversing in a artic into a small street in the centre of London and people plus one guy with push bike started to walk/crawl under the trailer while it was moving

I agree, it's the only place I've been where they walk through you rather than round you, absolute mad place with rude aggressive people in too much of a rush.
Old 18 October 2014, 07:08 AM
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Originally Posted by Moley_WRX
I only live half an hour away, and I hate the place, avoid it like the plague.

Full of rude, self-centred, arrogant tossers.
Don't mince your words, just spit it out.
Old 18 October 2014, 07:45 AM
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Originally Posted by f1_fan
I had to stand all the way back to Manchester on the train as it was over full:
Originally Posted by f1_fan
Londoners used to come up to Manchester by the busload just to experience a real night out in the 80s and 90s ... London... don't make me laugh
Was the train full of Londoners heading up to Manchester for another night out,, or full of people from Manchester heading back home after looking for work in London?
Old 18 October 2014, 08:29 AM
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.....or indeed people getting off at Watford, Milton Keynes and Birmingham.
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Originally Posted by Hammer man
Was the train full of Londoners heading up to Manchester for another night out,, or full of people from Manchester heading back home after looking for work in London?
No idea, I didn't converse with anyone as I generally don't do public transport and have no desire to mingle with the type of people who do!
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Originally Posted by davyboy
.....or indeed people getting off at Watford, Milton Keynes and Birmingham.
Well they'd have a job as the first stop was Stoke on Trent You really need to stop trying to contribute to threads you are incapable of making a worthy contribution to. Stick to the cycling malarkey in future
Old 18 October 2014, 08:51 AM
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Of course your kind have to deal in details.

I'm sorry I didn't know what time train you got to be able to make my contribution more valuable to the forum.
Old 19 October 2014, 08:52 AM
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Originally Posted by f1_fan

Anyway my opinion is as stated and the last time I looked I am allowed one.
But you can't accept that everybody else is entitled to one as well, even if you don't agree with it.

Of course the only time you have ever been wrong was when you thought you'd made a mistake
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Originally Posted by f1_fan
Friendliness - when I moved from London to Manchester in the 80s I was oft told of the fabled friendliness of Northerners.... I assumed it was bollocks, but it wasn't and still isn't. In Manchester or Lancashire where I live now people are always stopping to chat, you get to know your neighbours, there is still a sense of community. My brother lives in London and has lived in the same house for 7 years... he is yet to speak to his neighbours other than nodding a silent hello.

Three years ago I parked my car near Earls Court and my business partner left the interior light on so the battery was flat by morning. I had jump leads but needed a friendly car owner to provide a jump start. I must have stopped and asked 50 people over a two hour period before I found someone willing to give up 5 minutes of their day to help me and (I kid you not) he was from Manchester
It's down South in general that people are ignorant, rude, unfriendly and unhelpful. There are decent people, but, in my limited experience of London and it's surrounding areas they are very few and far between. Very long time since I've been to central London. Last time I was there was around 1982.

As an example, Lisa and I were in High Wycombe a couple of years ago for Swiss Tony's wedding. Someone, no idea who, had left the incar charger for the sat nav in his works van. We got to our hotel in High Wycombe alright, but, I needed the sat nav for the following day to visit another SN member, AsifScoob, and I sure as hell wouldn't have found my way to his house.

Trying to get anyone to help with locations of possible shops that would sell a replacement charger or something suitable was nigh on impossible. Telling me a shop was next to another shop, FFS where's the shop it's next to then? Finally managed to get one of those kits that have multiple fitments from Halfrauds, by christ they were ignorant ******* in there, I thought the staff at Gateshead branch were bad.

London itself from what I remember is a bit of a sh1thole, as was Liverpool when I was last there. None of them are quite as bad as Sunderland though.

Someone mentioned money earlier in the thread. When we visited Asif, we were driving along the road he lived on. When we started on the road, it frankly looked like one of the sink estates that we have up here. Further up the road, the bigger and obviously more expensive the houses got.

From end houses that looked like they would cost around 100K up here to stuff at the far end of the road that were well over a million quid.
Old 20 October 2014, 10:32 PM
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Originally Posted by mickywrx
It's down South in general that people are ignorant, rude, unfriendly and unhelpful. There are decent people, but, in my limited experience of London and it's surrounding areas they are very few and far between. Very long time since I've been to central London. Last time I was there was around 1982.

As an example, Lisa and I were in High Wycombe a couple of years ago for Swiss Tony's wedding. Someone, no idea who, had left the incar charger for the sat nav in his works van. We got to our hotel in High Wycombe alright, but, I needed the sat nav for the following day to visit another SN member, AsifScoob, and I sure as hell wouldn't have found my way to his house.

Trying to get anyone to help with locations of possible shops that would sell a replacement charger or something suitable was nigh on impossible. Telling me a shop was next to another shop, FFS where's the shop it's next to then? Finally managed to get one of those kits that have multiple fitments from Halfrauds, by christ they were ignorant ******* in there, I thought the staff at Gateshead branch were bad.

London itself from what I remember is a bit of a sh1thole, as was Liverpool when I was last there. None of them are quite as bad as Sunderland though.

Someone mentioned money earlier in the thread. When we visited Asif, we were driving along the road he lived on. When we started on the road, it frankly looked like one of the sink estates that we have up here. Further up the road, the bigger and obviously more expensive the houses got.

From end houses that looked like they would cost around 100K up here to stuff at the far end of the road that were well over a million quid.
Yep, that's about the size of it. I am there again tonight and hating every second of it. Watched someone gently touch someone's leg on the Tube with their bag and the woman whose leg was 'assaulted' went ballistic and accused her of trying to maim her. FFS!

Then there is the Tube exit procedure. No other place in the world can the population not work out it is best to let those wanting to get off the train off before trying to get on themselves.

Finally I have just had a sad excuse for a curry in a so called Indian restaurant... expensive and utterly bland... as per usual for London despite the excellent Trip Advisor reviews.

Ah well home tomorrow... no doubt my seat will be taken by some football thug type again. Never mind
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Originally Posted by f1_fan
Yep, that's about the size of it. I am there again tonight and hating every second of it. Watched someone gently touch someone's leg on the Tube with their bag and the woman whose leg was 'assaulted' went ballistic and accused her of trying to maim her. FFS!

Then there is the Tube exit procedure. No other place in the world can the population not work out it is best to let those wanting to get off the train off before trying to get on themselves.

Finally I have just had a sad excuse for a curry in a so called Indian restaurant... expensive and utterly bland... as per usual for London despite the excellent Trip Advisor reviews.

Ah well home tomorrow... no doubt my seat will be taken by some football thug type again. Never mind
Just as you contend that what I experienced in Manchester could just as happened anywhere else, one could argue that the type of people you encounter in London are the type you would encounter anywhere else. If your seat on the train back is taken by some football thug, it's more than likely a Mancunian, going home like you, and not a Londoner!
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Originally Posted by jonc
Just as you contend that what I experienced in Manchester could just as happened anywhere else, one could argue that the type of people you encounter in London are the type you would encounter anywhere else. If your seat on the train back is taken by some football thug, it's more than likely a Mancunian, going home like you, and not a Londoner!
I'm actually a Londoner who left 31 years ago by the way.

Oh and I doubt the Tube incidents could happen anywhere e.g. Manchester, being a sensible sized city we have no need to travel around like rats in a sewer

PS Feel free to deconstruct the points I made the other day, I see no one has dared try as yet ... I wonder why
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Originally Posted by f1_fan
I'm actually a Londoner who left 31 years ago by the way.

Oh and I doubt the Tube incidents could happen anywhere e.g. Manchester, being a sensible sized city we have no need to travel around like rats in a sewer

PS Feel free to deconstruct the points I made the other day, I see no one has dared try as yet ... I wonder why
Or maybe no one could be arsed to argue with your vitriolic nonsense?
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Or maybe no one could be arsed to argue with your vitriolic nonsense?
Nope, more like you aren't bright enough to construct a counter argument, certainly in your case anyway.
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London may have its faults but at least it's not up north!
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Originally Posted by SJ_Skyline
London may have its faults but at least it's not up north!
Thank God
Old 21 October 2014, 09:34 AM
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How hypocritical, hates the place but relies on it to earn money
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Originally Posted by f1_fan
I'm actually a Londoner who left 31 years ago by the way.

Oh and I doubt the Tube incidents could happen anywhere e.g. Manchester, being a sensible sized city we have no need to travel around like rats in a sewer

PS Feel free to deconstruct the points I made the other day, I see no one has dared try as yet ... I wonder why
I can deconstruct your points on London in just one overriding factor; I would happily accept and live with all the points you raised rather than live with and be subject to the racism and ignorance I experienced in Manchester.

I’ve never been subject to such racist vitriol in London or anywhere else for that matter in recent times. Since London is hugely more populated than Manchester, makes Manchester proportionately more racist and ignorant than London. The last time I experience such abuse was in the seventies and early eighties.

Incidentally, a bit unfair to compare one city to everywhere north of London. In your poll (whatever poll that is) of the greatest Britains, how many were from Manchester.

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Originally Posted by pflowers
How hypocritical, hates the place but relies on it to earn money
How presumptuous? I am actually covering some technical analysis work for a friend of mine who has had an accident and is currently in hospital. I am doing it for my expenses only, but you crack on with your accusations if it makes you feel better Anyway it's 2 days out of the last 10 years so even if it were different it's hardly relying on it
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Originally Posted by jonc
I can deconstruct your points on London in just one overriding factor; I would happily accept and live with all the points you raised rather than live with and be subject to the racism and ignorance I experienced in Manchester.

I’ve never been subject to such racist vitriol in London or anywhere else for that matter in recent times. Since London is hugely more populated than Manchester, makes Manchester proportionately more racist and ignorant than London. The last time I experience such abuse was in the seventies and early eighties.
If that's what you believe then no worries. I doubt you would get on with most Mancunians (the non-racist ones) anyway, they tend to be rather more down to earth than the stuck up two faced arrogant sort of people you get in London. If you are happy with that sort of company then crack on


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