stevebt

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Get it mapped, what's the chances of you being the unlucky one with a faulty engine from the factory. Its not as though you are pushing the engine as its only a small amount. I would rather spend more cash on the mapping than have just any eejiot map it which could in turn cause an issue.

markjmd

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You (and a lot of others in this thread, admittedly) seem to be assuming that dealers are completely obsessed with checking if a car's tuning has been played with, but why would they care one way or another unless either a) the car has an obvious running fault, or b) there are warning lights or other obvious signals that X, Y or Z parameter (oil temp, knock, whatever) has massively exceeded safe levels? Is it a routine thing for dealers to check for mapping changes during a scheduled service on a car that's showing no outward signs of problems?

Maz

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They would check in the event of a warranty claim, which is what most are saying.

Carnut

You were showing a example of a new STI with a boost control issue so just thought that while you were spending you're time looking for issues with the new Subaru I would have a look at the A45 AMG issues for you.

But you say masked, well there was at least one example of MB that I posted playing silly bugger and until over 50% of cars fail like they have had with the A45 AMG there is nothing to hide behind.

bioforger

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The boost control issue is just one of the smaller boost pipes coming loose on some cars, easily fixed in 5mins, not so good if you dont do something about it

Oh and most of the ones that have popped are all in the US where they are all running cack 91-94 octane fuel = det = boom, those poor yanks One i read he admitted to dropping it down a gear and revving it past 6K, mmm i wonder why it blew up

f1_fan

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Fools the car into increasing the power....

Let me do some basic maths for you.

2008 STI worth £9K - £10K at a push. Engine goes bang... just forge it you say. OK so you spend 40% of the car's value forging and rebuilding it and you have a car worth £9K - £10K but that has cost you £13K - £14K.. oh and it looks like a bag of ****, but that is an aside!

You buy an A45 AMG and you spend £2K- £3K modding it .... which is 7% of the car's value max,but when you come to sell you can just remove the piggyback box and sell it separately. Try doing that with your forged pistons So effectively with the AMG you lose almost nothing and have increased performance to boot.

Oh and the AMG will work perfectly well without modding it .. the Subaru... not likely for long!

The AMG is just a better product... end of

It's a pity Subaru lost their way. Until 2007 they were one of the best cars on the road in my eyes.... then they lost the plot in several different ways.

f1_fan

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Because it's a **** design and poorly built! HTH

bioforger

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Dick. It used to be, get with the times and change the record.

urban

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Get with the times - not a ******* chance

f1_fan

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Says the guy driving round in last decade's AMG

bioforger

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You pays your monies and you takes your choice

To be honest for me i don't care, i've said it before and i'll say it again, once remapped, maintained properly, run on 98/99 fuel, don't mod it to levels it was never designed for, it is a fantastic road unit, if it goes pop (highly unlikely) i don't care, its backed up by a decent 5yr warranty (I'll sell it before then )

Carnut

Probably more like 30% and depending on how long you have the car you should get a bit of it back for the pistons etc but for the sake of this we will say 6 months, I will get to why in a minute. Oh and looks you say, well its not quite my cup of tea but at least there not as common as muck like the new a class is.

So back to my point about 6 months, you say almost nothing to be lost, well one can be had 6 months old 5k less than new plus the 1k for your piggyback after the 1k back =6k,50 % more in loses than the sti.

Well you have a bit of a point but then over 50% of A45 AMGs failed before the recall.

Well yes, it is a better product, but thats why you pay more.

Well, I'll give you that but in time they may get back on track.

p.s just a observation and not a claimed fact but in and around 2008 there seems to have been a few cars having engine failures, the sti being one but also cars like the 6.2 AMGs etc, I suspect that it may have had something to do with EU regulations.

Probably time to move on.

XDevil666

You sold yours now then? Guessing that's why you were after the 2.5 wagon then?

Littleted

If you read the MB post only a handfull failed the rest is about people having the turbo checked under recall and having it swapped.

The scooby will cost 9 to 20k to get to 450. I had quotes from alan,david and ian at licthfields, ian being the 20k one...

I wish subaru had done something nice with the new car with a new engine mine actually didnt let me down, but look at poor old Tony his has just gone bang... Its only a matter of time before we loose a new one...

Tis a shame but times have moved on...subaru dont give a hoot now, even mike who developed the last maps with prodrive jacked and went to Jag, bet hes got some stories to tell...

Anyway box hasnt come yet due next week, ill pop some pics of it.... One guys just had 3.7 to 60 with it, which i bet if he tries is a sub 12 sec quarter.

XDevil666

Poor tony?! Man you know how much that car is tracked it's done bloody well if you ask me!

fawor

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You should spend time driving it than try to be Amg advocate here.
Its good looking girls car,and that idioting math above didn't change it.
Its not proper AMG same as wrx never will be sti ,simple.
They should put 65 twin turbo inside then well it could be HOT
You should buy Juke R instead it.

Littleted

WTF.

It's. A proper AMG, what pipe u smoking. The M135 isn't a proper M but the A45 is a proper AMG, don't think that because it hasn't got a v8 inside, things are changing. It has all the characteristics of AMG. It's not just a brief flash in the pan, the black edition comes soon...

Hand built engine which is the main aspect
SLS gearbox
And the list goes on.

WRX and Sti comment doesn't even hold water, totally differing Cars but probably closer than you think on Subaru world.. Sti has the same block as the WRX apart from larger inter cooler turbo and a few other bits, the a45 however is a very reworked engine fully forged unlike subarus glass pistons, lots of other things internally that make it worlds apart from it's lower aclass model.

But to be honest I didn't buy the car because it was Amg, I bought it because it's rare, fast and made me smile, something the S3 and others I test drive didn't do.

Please tell me why you don't think it's a proper amg I'm interested, and don't even talk about big blocks engines cost that argument died with the 6.3

Let me guess you drive a 5k scooby by the looks of your picture.

I drive a girls car, that you can only dream about
You drive a 5k scooby and that's being generous, that's chavtastic

XDevil666

Oh no littleted, you haven't just said to him your driving and 5k Scooby and you can only dream!

Not turned in to one of those ****** have you?

Please tell me you have paid your A45 off and it's not under debt

And let's just clear one thing up here, if you are going to enter the big leagues and start talking ****, don't start with the low budget AMG

And you want respect on a Subaru forum, then you should have spent your money the right way and that is the GTR

Tail Slider

Oh deary me, and by posting this thread on a Subaru forum makes you feel better about your self hoping chav's who drive "5k scoobys" look up at you in awe because you can afford too spend 40k+ on a car?

Its just a shame there isn't a pretentious wa*ker emotion because it would of slotted into my post just nicely...

Dirk Diggler 75

This thread started well then just turned into a my dicks bigger than your dick contest ....

f1_fan

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Nope, you can own more than one car you know? And before you make another thickheaded retort let me explain my comment, urban accused me of having no chance of getting with the times yet he drives roughly the same vintage of car hence my comment.

f1_fan

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You make XDevil look intelligent and he's a long way from it!

f1_fan

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Seems the truth hurts

XDevil666

God who put a £ in you and woke you up

XDevil666

What are you drinking? You fall below him too, yours is a 15k car and you have to look at that rich ******* with his A45 too

We are all in a different league than him

He is the boss! Lmao

f1_fan

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Best of luck to the lad and his choice of car.... I couldn't care less about pecking orders, but saying things like his car isn't a proper AMG when most of you know nothing about AMGs is just petty and makes you all look a bit pathetic to be brutally frank.

Littleted

GTR is just one step too far for me. Id love one but not practical for me and the miles i do...
I did fancy a c63 but due to engine end of life i thought naaaa, maybe in a few year when its time for a swap the new 63 will be out.

I do also like the e63...

But lack of 4wd annoys me... Who knows what next, subaru may release a car thats tempting.

Carnut

Despite what some may think I actually like the a45 amg, the new a class is VERY common and with out the big wing there not to easy to separate but it does put you at the top of the a class pecking order which would be nice, not a fan of the average big sunglasses wearing stupid haired driver of the new mercedes, bmw, audi lot.

And as far as "not a proper amg" well best get used to it, smaller engines with big turbo's is the new way.

Oh and 4wd now that merc and bmw are honest enough to break away from all that rwd traditional ****.

markjmd

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Just for info, fuel octane in the US isn't measured/displayed in RON, but as an average of the RON and MON. According to wikipedia:
"Because of the 8 to 12 octane number difference between RON and MON noted above, the AKI shown in Canada and the United States is 4 to 6 octane numbers lower than the AKI shown elsewhere in the world for the same fuel."
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Octane_rating

bioforger

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Whatever its still p1ssweak fuel compared to what we get.