L.J.F

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The Forrester might be a option if you can't fit the equipment in the hawkeye...

f1_fan

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Nah, I can't deal with the looks.

Anyway I am hoping it does all fit... will know very soon

XDevil666

is this a ****ing wind up? after EVERYTHING you have said?

its not April the 1st, i double checked when i read this

bioforger

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I rather not say as i'll get into trouble, lets just say i know a friend of a friend who works very closely with our Japanese friends.

bioforger

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Cheers

f1_fan

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Well it's all academic as sadly my trade show gear will not fit in it. I am massively disappointed as this was an absolute steal price wise and had it not been for the space issue it would now be mine.

Sadly this means I am unlikely to ever own another Scoob which is also quite sad

Anyway if anyone wants a decent WRX wagon at an unbelievable price checkout Mark's ad in the for sale section. The ad does not do the car justice to be honest!

2006 WRX wagon for sale

urban

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Grand

So, this is figures at the actual factory then?

Are they told about all failures, or only those that a warranty claim has been approved for?

Carnut

Where have you got all your information from on the 2.5 engine failures, I would be interested in having a read?

p.s if it's SN hearsay and forum scaremongering then I've seen it.

fat-thomas

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its no hearsay its fact on the sti engine ask api or any engine builder, the wrx unit has better reliability.

XDevil666

nice is that Wagon!

urban

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Personal experience can account for 3 failures on 2008 & 2009 STI's

Just look at the thread I started on here.
Also the recent example of the 2011 car that shat itself after only 19000 miles - fcuksake man, wake up.

fat-thomas

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he's trying to convince himself it's not true just because he has one

XDevil666

cause you drive like a muppet or you get mods done by your mate dave the tuner!

do you really think Subaru would still be using the same 2.5 if the failures were that large?

you got unlucky and so did everyone else that posts online, the fact is if the other huge percentage of 2.5 owners have no problems they WONT post online!


answer yourself these questions:

>Engine rev limits being constantly exceeded due to over speeding
>Vehicles being un-officially modified outside the design brief of the engine (unit is designed for around 300 BHP or 330 BHP in the case of the STI 330S, not more)
>Track use (racing, time trials, rallying etc)
>Incorrect maintenance procedures, causing engines to be run with insufficient or contaminated lubricating oils
>Use of incorrect fuel grade (RON97)
>Unofficial "grey" Imports of undetermined specification, ie. not supplied by Subaru (UK)

f1_fan

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urban

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Right, I've owned Subaru's since 1998.
Generally a brand new one every 3 years or so.

Last car was a 330S, which I sold at just over 3 years old. It had about 22K on it if I remember correctly.
I actually sold it back to the dealer as I wanted rid because I believed it to be showing signs of engine related issues.
I believe it has since unloaded in its bags with a new owner.

>Engine rev limits being constantly exceeded due to over speeding
Maybe a few times, but accidental as its pretty easy to do in the 2.5
>Vehicles being un-officially modified outside the design brief of the engine
(unit is designed for around 300 BHP or 330 BHP in the case of the STI 330S, not more)
No
>Track use (racing, time trials, rallying etc)
No
>Incorrect maintenance procedures, causing engines to be run with insufficient or contaminated lubricating oils
No - quite the contrary, because I got it a 1K mile service which you don't need to do
>Use of incorrect fuel grade (RON97)
No
>Unofficial "grey" Imports of undetermined specification, ie. not supplied by Subaru (UK)
No

The last one is a joke anyway, its just a way of finger pointing elsewhere.

I know first hand information on two other cars here on this small 3 other hatch STI's that failed.
One of those 3 were covered under warranty, the other two were told no - see ya!

Have a read at this.
http://www.autoblog.com/2008/04/07/s...with-turbod-2/

urban

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Probably wants to buy one more like.

XDevil666

well there you go then, im sure as they plugged there diag kit in and looked at your history - invalid warranty

and you don't know the 330 engine went, your just assuming, nor do you know how the new owner treated it

and that article you posted is over 6 years old lmao

f1_fan

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Are you on a wind up or do you really believe the stuff you write? He said the engine went, why are you saying he doesn't know that

Stick your fingers in your ears, close your eyes and say it isn't so maybe?

urban

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Don't know what they did, also don't know who is paying to fix it. I only know that reports were of no oil left.
To be perfectly frank, don't care, not my problem anyway.

Oh I know it went alright - rattle rattle rattle
How did new owner treat it - no idea, but it shouldn't really matter if he just just 'using' it.

Spot on, funny that the cars began failing 6 years ago too

bioforger

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2008+2009's had the ECU/map issues, we all know that, which accounted for a lot of the failures on the infamous thread on here.
A lot of those cases were dealt with in appalling fashion by the dealers, fact. The 2.5 is not as strong as the 2ltr, fact, we all know this contrary to what IM will tell you.

However that does not mean the 2.5 is going to explode in any car its in, quite the opposite in fact.

Tracked And it was fixed under warranty no questions asked.

They don't all go pop. It depends on their history, age and whether they were maintained properly or not. You really don't need to redline a 2.5 at all as its torquey, i find with mine i don't go anywhere near it or need to go anyway near it as it makes most of its power/torque at 4-4.5K. Having said that it should not spill its guts if it has, that's what a rev limit is for. So maybe there were other factors involved before you got yours. Run on 97ron once or twice maybe by a dealer, very possible, who knows.

Carnut

It's difficult to say exactly because there is some guess work involved but engine failures are common across ALL marques, the question is what is acceptable/expected.

It would seem that going off the number of 2.5 engins sold we need to find a minimum of about 300 in the UK before it can be seen abnormal.

fat-thomas

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keep those blinkers on,for emergency measures bury your head in the sand too.
every time you get in the poo.5 the clocks ticking until booooooooom

Cpt Jack Sparrow

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does it actually go booooooooom

Still waiting you see, and I want to know what to listen out for

Carnut

I ask for information and you tell me of a car that you owned that yo THINK had problems then the other two was people you know or know of then you post a link further down giving evidence that says subaru had put a stop to sale's for 2 MONTHS out of 6 YEARS

Get it into yor head, I KNOW THERE ARE ISSUES WITH THE 2.5, I will repeat this at the end so as not to forget.

The thing that I find difficult to understand is how many have failed or at what percentage. There are 138,000 members on this site and of course we will hear of failures, one failure will also create a lot of hearsay and those of them who know the person will speak of their experiences.

There will, and has been people that will join the site with the intention of asking about their 2.5 that has failed, it owners of every car that failed posted we would never buy a csr again, we would probably take up horse riding.

So were back to this point, I KNOW THERE ARE ISSUES WITH THE 2.5.

bioforger

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Ignore the fatty he's a bitter, almost ex scooby owner (well from 1 day to the next who knows if he will ever sell his faketrack) with a chip on his shoulder and a massive sheep to boot

Carnut

It's definitely a lot easier to find people that have had no problems and also people that are running big power on standard internales.

You know the one's, they say they know what they are doing and if it goes bang then they will get it forged, the thing is though, they never do.

f1_fan

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Sorry, but.....

fat-thomas

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lol I'm an enthusiast who knows about the poo.5, its a poorly designed and built engine this is fact.

bioforger

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nah you're just a tarmac laying tool who spouts the same ole garbage on any new 2.5 thread that's created

fat-thomas

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if you say so,I'm an owner from many years and ask any tuner or engine builder I.e. api what the issues are with the poo.5, just because I don't use an impreza anymore doesn't mean I don't know the issues with them.