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Old 07 October 2014, 05:36 PM
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How will quarantine stop the spread?,



Surely by the time they are quarantined, they have already been in contact with many people , so the ripples get bigger


Just basing it on a 2x2 pattern, by the end of two months, based on 2 people a day being diagnosed the numbers are astronomical.


If you have plague inc on your tablet, you can get the idea of what could happen



Remember duck and cover





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Old 07 October 2014, 06:43 PM
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Originally Posted by f1_fan

The chances are extremely slim that it will get to Europe....
That chance has put a bit of weight on...
Old 08 October 2014, 04:13 PM
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Originally Posted by zip106
That chance has put a bit of weight on...
What are you talking about? f1 is a qualified microbiologist and so knows exactly what he's talking about!
Old 09 October 2014, 01:14 PM
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What are you talking about? f1 is a qualified microbiologist and so knows exactly what he's talking about!
No, but Prof. John Oxford is and as he said two days ago given what they know about the virus the likelihood of an 'outbreak' in Europe remains almost impossible, but he did concede that until it is known how the nurse contracted it all bets may be off.

I tend to get my information from experts in the field rather than the Daily Mail
Old 09 October 2014, 01:20 PM
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All it's going to take is one infected person in a major city who takes the longer end of the incubation period before they get diagnosed to pass it around and then it's **** hits the fan time as by that time an untold number of people in that city will have been exposed to it not to mention any of those who then travel onto another city.

And still the authorities sit back and say no it's fine we won't get it over here
Old 09 October 2014, 01:24 PM
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And they still say its very difficult to catch - yet the spanish nurse may have accidentally, momentarily 'touched' her face with a glove whilst removing it and she has it.....

I smell bullsh1t.

The media are being controlled - I'm sure of it.
Old 09 October 2014, 01:25 PM
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They are sitting back and not closing down boarders because they know its already here, but aren't going to publicise it...its just waiting for when/where the sh*t will hit the fan.


We're going to shut up shop and setup the Hawne Tavern as a quaratine zone. Landlords has extra Batham's on order for "medicinal" purposes
Old 09 October 2014, 01:46 PM
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Originally Posted by An0n0m0us
And still the authorities sit back and say no it's fine we won't get it over here
Which is horse shyte
Old 09 October 2014, 02:02 PM
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Originally Posted by urban
Which is horse shyte
Of course it is and I bet the drug companies are foaming at the mouth so to speak at wanting to be the first with a 100% effective vaccine and the billions they will make from providing it globally. And if it's only Africa spreading it to Europe, USA and Australia I think i'll head for Asia or South America if it kicks off at that doesn't seem to have any panic over this at all.

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Old 09 October 2014, 03:09 PM
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Originally Posted by f1_fan
No, but Prof. John Oxford is and as he said two days ago given what they know about the virus the likelihood of an 'outbreak' in Europe remains almost impossible, but he did concede that until it is known how the nurse contracted it all bets may be off.

I tend to get my information from experts in the field rather than the Daily Mail
Couple of months ago, with you having read information from the said Prof. you stated the chances of it ever reaching Europe was extremely slim and the press were simply overhyping the situation and yet today we find that it has reached not just Europe but the USA also. We now find this discussion has now moved from it ever reaching Europe to the possiblity of it reaching our shores though the Prof. contends that an outbreak of the virus is impossible. Despite what you think of the press, it is possible that sometimes the press might just be right too.
Old 09 October 2014, 03:35 PM
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Originally Posted by jonc
Couple of months ago, with you having read information from the said Prof. you stated the chances of it ever reaching Europe was extremely slim and the press were simply overhyping the situation and yet today we find that it has reached not just Europe but the USA also. We now find this discussion has now moved from it ever reaching Europe to the possiblity of it reaching our shores though the Prof. contends that an outbreak of the virus is impossible. Despite what you think of the press, it is possible that sometimes the press might just be right too.
Has anyone contracted it in the US? Obviously (well obviously to most people) if someone with the virus hops on a plane bound for Europe or the US it was going to 'reach' Europe/US. Whether it becomes an 'outbreak' in these regions remains to be seen, but I think I would still rather trust the medical experts than the Daily Mail, but you do whatever you are happy with.

Just because the press write something and it turns out to be true does not mean they are writing with any authority, it just means they got lucky.

Anyway half the posters on here seem ready to work themselves into a lather over something that has not happened yet so I guess they have achieved the desired effect
Old 09 October 2014, 04:06 PM
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LOL so F1 you think this is nothing to be concerned about?
Old 09 October 2014, 04:19 PM
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Originally Posted by An0n0m0us
LOL so F1 you think this is nothing to be concerned about?
LOL, so An0n0m0us, you think this is something to completely panic about?
Old 09 October 2014, 05:01 PM
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Originally Posted by ALi-B
They are sitting back and not closing down boarders because they know its already here, but aren't going to publicise it...its just waiting for when/where the sh*t will hit the fan.


We're going to shut up shop and setup the Hawne Tavern as a quaratine zone. Landlords has extra Batham's on order for "medicinal" purposes
Because economy.

They are **** scared to disrupt our holy economy is why. Growth will take a hit if they start shutting borders down.

Personally I'd stop any passangers coming in from West Afica now.
Old 09 October 2014, 05:13 PM
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Originally Posted by tony de wonderful
Personally I'd stop any passangers coming in from West Afica now.
I agree with you. While I don't think we should hit the panic button over this a measure of common sense is needed too and I think this would be a very good course of action in that regard.
Old 09 October 2014, 05:31 PM
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Old 09 October 2014, 09:10 PM
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Originally Posted by f1_fan
LOL, so An0n0m0us, you think this is something to completely panic about?
I said concerned not panic (big difference between those 2 to most people) so try replying to the actual question.
Old 09 October 2014, 10:11 PM
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Originally Posted by f1_fan
I agree with you. While I don't think we should hit the panic button over this a measure of common sense is needed too and I think this would be a very good course of action in that regard.
Two months ago the Government held a Cobra meeting to discuss the movement of people to and from the infected regions, but you implied that this was OTT reactionary politics to keep the population under control. That is a far cry from what you're advocating now. Are we concerned now?
Old 09 October 2014, 10:49 PM
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Originally Posted by f1_fan
I agree with you. While I don't think we should hit the panic button over this a measure of common sense is needed too and I think this would be a very good course of action in that regard.
One of the lads I work with remarked last week that a couple of students from Sierra Leone arrived at Hartbury College last week. I thought about so-called lockdowns, about ten seconds after my Brazilian native spots sneezing White European for the first time moment. I'd ban all travel in and out myself but then I don't run their books for them.

I think the slightly irrational thinking on my part comes with a worry about trusting which source of facts is the most reliable. I can see how people get confudled by religious passages. It really is quite a job getting it straight in your head what is right and what is not so. Especially when something is plausible even if it isn't 100% accurate. Sell it right and bingo.......
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Originally Posted by An0n0m0us
I said concerned not panic (big difference between those 2 to most people) so try replying to the actual question.
No, your implication was I was saying this was nothing to be concerned about when I have said nothing of the sort so I simply turned it round on you and of course you don;t like it. Hope that helps clarify the way your post came across
Old 10 October 2014, 06:45 AM
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Originally Posted by jonc
Two months ago the Government held a Cobra meeting to discuss the movement of people to and from the infected regions, but you implied that this was OTT reactionary politics to keep the population under control. That is a far cry from what you're advocating now. Are we concerned now?
Sigh.... how about you stop playing party politics, you're no better than the political parties frankly?

What was actually said was this.

You said

Originally Posted by jonc
Whilst the risk of an outbreak in the UK is very low, it's still enough for the Government to deem it necessary to hold an emergency COBR meeting on this issue.
And I replied

Originally Posted by f1_fan
Yes, but according to the press it's either coming soon to wipe us all out or already in the UK in Glasgow at the Commonwealth Games.

From what I understand the COBRA meeting is more to discuss people travelling to and from the infected regions rather than the idea of an epidemic in the UK.

That said the government aren't adverse to a bit of OTT reactionary politics to things like this ... all helps to keep the population under control don't y'know
i.e. the COBRA meeting was not to discuss a UK outbreak like the press were banging on about, but to discuss the possibility of travel restrictions and I then added the implication that it may be to discuss the former as they aren't adverse to a bit of over reaction if it allows them to exert a bit more control. A bit different to your 'spin' on my comments, but then, much like your political party of choice, why let truth get in the way of your agenda?

Or do you contest the fact that governments of the last 30 years have 'over-hyped' things like terrorist threats to allow the creation of new laws that leave us as the most 'snooped on' population in the Western world?

Finally you asked if 'we' are concerned now. I presume you mean am I concerned now? My answer would be that of course I have a level of concern as would anyone on hearing news of the ever increasing death toll at the hands of a virus, but I suspect (and apologies if I am wrong) that your question relates to being concerned about ebola in the UK in which case my answer would be still be no, not unduly.

From what I am given to understand about Ebola the chances of an 'outbreak' type situation in Western countries is very unlikely and if the experts are all wrong well so be it, there's not much I can do about that!
Old 10 October 2014, 09:40 AM
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Originally Posted by f1_fan
No, your implication was I was saying this was nothing to be concerned about when I have said nothing of the sort so I simply turned it round on you and of course you don;t like it. Hope that helps clarify the way your post came across
You said this:

Originally Posted by f1_fan
Anyway half the posters on here seem ready to work themselves into a lather over something that has not happened yet so I guess they have achieved the desired effect
No one is working themselves up into a lather on this thread that I can see, just posters being rightly concerned at the lack of action by our Government in being proactive against this deadly disease.

You were accusing those showing concern of working up into a lather hence me asking so you think there is nothing to be concerned about.
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Originally Posted by An0n0m0us
You said this:



No one is working themselves up into a lather on this thread that I can see, just posters being rightly concerned at the lack of action by our Government in being proactive against this deadly disease.

You were accusing those showing concern of working up into a lather hence me asking so you think there is nothing to be concerned about.
In that case you have your answer so there's no need to carry on like an old woman any longer
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Originally Posted by f1_fan
In that case you have your answer so there's no need to carry on like an old woman any longer
So you resort to insults as usual when being asked where you sit on this, one minute accusing anyone showing concern as being worked up into a lather however it's OK for you to have concern.
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Originally Posted by f1_fan
Sigh.... how about you stop playing party politics, you're no better than the political parties frankly?

What was actually said was this.

You said



And I replied



i.e. the COBRA meeting was not to discuss a UK outbreak like the press were banging on about, but to discuss the possibility of travel restrictions and I then added the implication that it may be to discuss the former as they aren't adverse to a bit of over reaction if it allows them to exert a bit more control. A bit different to your 'spin' on my comments, but then, much like your political party of choice, why let truth get in the way of your agenda?

Or do you contest the fact that governments of the last 30 years have 'over-hyped' things like terrorist threats to allow the creation of new laws that leave us as the most 'snooped on' population in the Western world?

Finally you asked if 'we' are concerned now. I presume you mean am I concerned now? My answer would be that of course I have a level of concern as would anyone on hearing news of the ever increasing death toll at the hands of a virus, but I suspect (and apologies if I am wrong) that your question relates to being concerned about ebola in the UK in which case my answer would be still be no, not unduly.

From what I am given to understand about Ebola the chances of an 'outbreak' type situation in Western countries is very unlikely and if the experts are all wrong well so be it, there's not much I can do about that!
Right, so just to clarify has the Government over-reacted over the Ebola scare, in your opinion?
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Originally Posted by An0n0m0us
So you resort to insults as usual when being asked where you sit on this, one minute accusing anyone showing concern as being worked up into a lather however it's OK for you to have concern.
Interpret it however you like, I couldn't care less. My position is pretty clear to anyone with a bit of nous!
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Originally Posted by jonc
Right, so just to clarify has the Government over-reacted over the Ebola scare, in your opinion?
I think I answered that pretty comprehensively in my reply
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Sky on demand are showing 28 days later and 28 weeks later
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Originally Posted by g7prs
Sky on demand are showing 28 days later and 28 weeks later
Old 10 October 2014, 11:33 AM
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Originally Posted by f1_fan
I think I answered that pretty comprehensively in my reply
Well if you say they have over-reacted, you don't say how. Normally you're quite descriptive and explicit with examples in pointing out our Government's deficiencies.


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