ossett2k2

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Comes with a coil building tool

bioforger

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oh its a coil builder ok

bioforger

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There's a Rafael X dripper (RDA) tank coming out soon as well if you're into that. You'll get big clouds with one of those Rob

DoZZa

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I miss vaping quite a lot!

A brief story for you.

Was a smoker from the age of around 15, now 38.

Three years ago I swapped smoking 40 Dunhill's a day for vaping, started off as most did at that time, got a cheapo kit from the local petrol station.

After about a week of vaping I stopped smoking real ****. But found that I needed more of a satisfying amount of smoke from my cheap garage bought device.

So I upgraded to a Provari, which I still have today. Loved it and the amount of smoke it could create with the correct tank or atomiser setup.

Was happily vaping for about 2 years, trying different devices, different coil configurations and of course different e liquids.

I then started to develop stomach issues which seemed to be related to vaping. I tried all manners of different e liquids, PG, VG and a mixture of both. I even went to the doctor to have some tests done to see if I had some type of gut infection, all results came back negative.

I ended up making my own juice for a while from just distilled water, nicotine and VG (vegetable glycerin). Stomach issues seemed to subside for a while but not completely. And then after a while the stomach was back to the way it was before I was making my own juice. Bloated and generally uncomfortable.

After some time I also noticed that my nose was always red, like Rudolph! It was sore to touch and quite uncomfortable. Again, somehow caused by vaping.

I had to stop vaping all together, was not easy but I have not smoked a single cigarette for over a year now, with the help of a quickmist mouth spray which keeps me sane!

Stomach issues have gone and so has the nose issue.

Would love to still be able to vape, I enjoyed experimenting with different coil setups, different wicks, different types of cottons, and of course, messing about with high wattage devices, but with the issues I faced, it will be too uncomfortable to sustain if I started again.

Only downside from me quitting smoking is the weight gain, currently two stone heavier than when I was a smoker. But I do feel healthier over all, just need to get my lazy *** in the gym!

ossett2k2

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Your not wrong about clouds,I use the mutationX and flavours are on a different level,I only use when chilling out at home.

At least you have given up the nasty cigs DoZZa
Only time I had stomach issues(proper painful) is when I was using really fruity juices,did look into it and some people suffer acid reflux on certain juices.
I stick to making my own now and mostly use lightly fruited menthol flavours.

donny andi

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Ordered all my stuff Saturday...hopefully all here this week so happy days , maybe!!

ossett2k2

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Won't take long for you to feel the health benefits from switching from cigs.

donny andi

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, ordered from both links you posted...so thanks agin for them

ossett2k2

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No worries
Let us know how you get on mate.

Rob_Impreza99

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Good luck, quitting smoking is one of the best things you'll ever do, i'm sure you'll come to enjoy the e-cig and you won't crave for a real cig. If i can quit smoking real cigarettes which is over 3 years now then anyone can.

Rob_Impreza99

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Wonderful, this Uwell Crown tank has started leaking from the air holes. One of the times it 1/3 emptied my tank.

You start to doubt yourself if it's you that's doing something wrong, i know how to prime a coil, i know the correct tightness to screw it in, i know to close off the air holes when filling from the top and i know to start off at a lower wattage on a new coil then build it up etc.

I took the tank apart, i thought i'd have a look at the coil to see how it was constructed to see if it was similar to the Kanger ones. It's very similar and their is one major issue with the way these coils seem to be built, the coil wire sits on the lip of the coil housing then a rubber seal is pushed down on top of this raised bit of coil wire. This means their is a gap the size of the thickness of the coil wire between the seal and the metal housing of the coil.

I then had a closer look at this seal, it was crushed where it had been pressing against the coil wire, not only that they create a hook shape in the coil wire that sits underneath the seal so it hooks onto the body of the coil housing, that sharp shape had put a hole in this particular seal so it's a pretty good guess as to where the fluid is coming out of.

I then had a quick google search for Uwell Crown tank flooding, their seems to be quite a few threads where people have the same problem with it coming out of the air holes. People using the RBA's don't seem to be having this problem, it's mainly with the stock coils. Some people with the stock coils seem to be ok as well where as others can't stop the flooding.

i guess it's down to the batches of coils and where you have bought them from, their is obviously some good batches out there but by the sounds of it their are some bad batches as well, so you'll either be lucky with your coils or you won't. I can't believe they would skimp on the construction of these coils given how well this tank is constructed, it's a fine piece of engineering, well apart from the coils which maybe out sourced and not made in house.

Wonderful, just what i needed.

ossett2k2

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Bloody hell Rob,you're not having much luck with this
Only had the crown pi55 liquid out on me once and that's because I put it together wrong,I did use the a pre-made coil for a bit and it was ok but I used the RBA ever since.
Part of my enjoyment with vaping is coil building,I've not bought pre-made for ages.
Is there any way you can sort your coil out so it's not fouling on the seal?

JackClark

No juice should get as far as the pin used to hold that wire in, it gets pressed against the pin in your battery and should only see air. Juice will either get into your coil via the cotton or via the seal at the chimney, sometimes the base of the coil, but the pin holding the wire shouldn't be exposed to juice anyhow.

bioforger

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Yea, plus without it being designed like that the coil would never work, nor would any BVC coil, it has to contact the base somehow to be able to fire.

Rob, I'm surprised you feel the quality of the Uwell crown coils is poor, they are much better in quality than the Kanger coils imo. I'm really not sure what/or if you are doing is wrong, but it can't just be coincidence that you keep getting leaking issues with two different types of tank and coils. Are you sure you are not over-tightening the coil into the base each time?

I'm on my 4th pack now so i've used 12 uwell coils and not had a single issue so far.

Rob_Impreza99

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Had a feeling you may reply with that, i'd have probably typed similar to someone else that is getting a few flooding issues on different tanks. I'm not a novice as i've been using an e-cig for 3 years, as you know using an e-cig and setting it up is not rocket science. As long as you follow the basic guidelines of priming the coil correctly, screwing it in hand tight, closing the air holes off when you fill it, and if it's a brand new coil let it soak for 10 mins or so after priming it and start off on a low wattage and slowly build it up, and don't suck on your drags etc, just inhale then nothing should really go wrong.

I'm not alone in having flooding problems with the TopTank mini and also the Uwell crown tank, neither is free from this problem as a quick search on google will tell you so it's not an isolated problem at my end. I think i've just been very unlucky, imo it's down to the coils and the seals, some are obviously not sealing as well as others and i'd say that's an inconsistency in manufacturing. Some people will get good batches, some will have bad ones.

Their were 2 other things that cropped up when i searched google on both tanks, firstly a lot of people were saying that they didn't seem to have the flooding issues when using an RBA but they had them on the stock coils, secondly others were saying on the Uwell that if they bottom filled it that stopped the flooding. That last one sort of defeats the object of having a top fill tank.

I'm pretty much certain i'm doing nothing wrong, what exactly could i be doing wrong as i've listed above the correct way that they tell you by the book to prime a coil and to fill a tank and to build up the wattage slowly on a new coil ?

bioforger

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I dunno, i'm not saying you are doing anything wrong, but it just seems strange that you have the same issue with completely different products. I used to have the subtank before and i never had any flooding with that either. I get my coils from the same place you do, myepack, so i guess as you say, it must just be luck with the packs you get.

I only ever topfill the Uwell tank.

The only ever time i did have any flooding was when using the subtank RBA But that was because i screwed up the wicking. I don't have a Uwell RBA.

Rob_Impreza99

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As an experiment on this first coil i'm going to try 2 things, i've took the battery contact off one of the coils and took the green seal off. Where the coil wire is hooked over and resting on the body of the coil, i've trimmed off the hooked part so it's a straight piece of wire and i've seated the wire on the inside wall of the green seal, the battery contact then slides into the seal and touches it on the side of the contact rather than pushing down onto it from the top like before. That way the seal sits flush with the body.

I'm also going to start bottom filling it and see how these 2 things go, touch wood if it goes as i hope then i'll start top filling again and see how that goes.

bioforger

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I reckon its to do with how the cotton is packed into some of the coils and the e-juice is just slipping/flowing to fast through it. Which is exactly what happened when i didnt pack the RBA properly once before.

Rob_Impreza99

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Just a quick update with the Uwell Crown tank.

After repositioning where the coil wire is seated from underneath the lip of the bottom seal and moving it to the inside of the seal along with bottom filling the tank instead of top filling i've not had a single, noticeable leak in just over 2 days. The tank at the min is performing the way i expected it too after the very positive reviews i read along with Bio's positive opinion on the tank.

My next step will be start top filling the tank as that's what it's designed for, if it doesn't flood after that then i know the problem was with how the coil wire is seated underneath the lip of the seal which it doesn't allow it to seal properly, if it floods when i start to top fill then it has to be something to do with that method of filling.

ven

Hello fellow vapists , hope all is well in the cloud world.

Not spent much on vape mail recently, been content with the crown/RBA and the platinum..............probably the longest i have gone!!

May be tempted for the new SMOK if the local vape shop gets it in(cant be bothered waiting for weeks on a whim from china). Plus i will get a feel for it first!
smok h-priv
http://www.smoktech.com/kit/h-priv-kit

Rob_Impreza99

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Ven, you sem to have tried most things and probably most brands of e-fluids and flavours before you started making your own.

Can you recommend some ready made brands of e-fluid that are good brands and give good flavour, either 70/30 or 80/20 to use in a Uwell Crown tank with Kanger mod. It's just to put me on before i look into making my own.

I want to start making my own fluid soon as these mod type setups drink the stuff for fun lol, if you can recommend some reputable brand bottles of VG and PG as well as nicotine that would also be great, is it easy and straight forward to mix ? How long do you need to leave each bottle to cure once you've made a batch ?

bioforger

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All the info you need is in this thread mate for making your own.

You don't need to let the liquids steep/cure at all. The PG/VG and nicotine i quoted on an earlier page is the same stuff Ven uses.

ven

As mr bio said, should be some links previous posts. What i tend to do at present is buy 2L of VG and 1L PG , usually from ebay.............i just have a search and look for a reputable seller(feedback etc). Flavour wise, i have been buying from vampire vape, heisenburg and pinkman concentrates.

Nic wise, go4smoke or alike, usually buy VG base and around 100ml a time. Lasts me months as i make 3% strength which is enough for sub ohm use.

Then simply an online juice calculator, fill in the bits and it works it out for you in ml. 100ml beaker and pour each bit in to make. Tend to make 150-300ml batches a time for ease. Once you have made a couple you remember the amounts.

Certainly save you a good few £!!! Depending on brand/flavour a 250ml should not be much more than the equiv of around £12-£14 ish...............huge savings.

JackClark

Happy TPD Day everyone. Lets hope they don't drive too many back to smoking.

EddScott

I've given up completely on the big tanks and boxes.

Had trouble with a Kanger Subtank Mini with leaking and general rubbishness. Bought a Mk2 Subtank with the top fill. Worked fine for a bit. Only used DIY coils which I made from twisted pair wire and a little wicking. Coils were OK at about 1.0Ohm but wicking was hit and miss. Then it just started to leak like mad from the air holes and I chucked it all in a cupboard and that is where it's sat.

I use an Aspire K1 on a Vision Spinner 2. Doesn't really pull clouds but just works with no faff. Shame really as for a short while I had the Subtank just right.

bioforger

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Yep today's the day, as i understand it a lot of the juice shops are going to get screwed over as they need to spend an extortionate amount of money to fill in the necessary paperwork/legislation to be able to trade. I hope the court orders that are going to happen will have some effect. Unlikely though as they are up against the FDA Glad i got into making my own e-juice, as i guess in the future it will be the only way to get it.

JackClark

Pretty sure they're trying to stop DIY as well. I pulled in what might be my last order from Germany last week, only a few months worth then who knows.

bioforger

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Well just on the flavour concentrates yea. I can't see how they could stop the sale of the VG,PG and nicotine. Although you never know. If they are allowed to do what they want to do, they will simply push the scene into the black market along with all the other recreational drugs.

Rob_Impreza99

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Pretty much the same experiences i had with the Kanger TopBox mini, i used stock coils but got exactly the same where it constantly leaked from the air holes. I've always found Kanger stuff very hit and miss especially their coils, some leak, some don't last more than a couple of days and others are perfect that will last for a couple of weeks, those last ones are very few and far between though.

Touch wood i'm enjoying using the Uwell Crown Tank at the min, i had to make some minor adjustments to the coils but since then i've had no leaking issues. From my experience most leaking problems start from the coils, cheap mass produced items from China, the tanks look to be well made and well built but they are only as good as the coils and they are the cheapest component that are made on mass and they can deffo be hit and miss.

JackClark

Nebox the second arrived today, the old one is leaking, not just from the coils but from everywhere as I dropped it from about 4,000ft trying to have a vape, doh! Have been back on the trusty old Subtank and iStick but the form factor and juice capacity were missed greatly.