Norman Dog

iTrader: (1)

Had a play with a 172 today, rolling from about 40mph and by christ I couldn't pass him

Remembered why I very, very nearly bought the 182 instead of the WRX

Definately time for some engine mods (lost that initial feeling of invincibility)

mac12

my brother had the 172 clio and at the time i had a vectra 2.6sri and there was nothing between them, i would of thought your wrx would of been a bit quicker though. most scoobies in standard form (i.e 208-220bhp)will struggle against alot of cars on the road but once modded its a different story....

mozzaITA

If you like 172/182 you will love the Williams, less expensive and just as good.

Got one for sale check out the for sale section

andythejock01wrx

Sports cat and remap matie.

Norman Dog

iTrader: (1)

So did I, don't think the Clio was Standard though - big bore aftermarket exhaust on it, wonder what sort of power one with a decat/filter/remap would be putting out

Fart Man

My cousin's 172 is actually a 194

Mind, he did "lose" the cat and it had its mapping tinkered

MikeyTang

iTrader: (4)

Had a 172 before I moved on to my STI. Boy do i miss the torgue steer

fmp

iTrader: (7)

i sold my 182 Cup for a spec-c (well, when it gets here).

Always under estimated by many, but they go pretty well, and handle even better!

Unfortunatly the engines are in a fairly high state of tune from the factory, so to get any decent gains you gotta spend the money!

Andygreer

iTrader: (4)

Our 172 is faster than a standrard Wrx newage.

BUT after a remap the clio wouldnt stand a chance. The 172/182's all are pretty much as stated 170/180hp peopel put cams in them exhaust a a chip think 210bhp is the most you can really get out of one. with out spendinG £££££ the turbo conversion is rare at a meer £5k LOL

Terminator X

iTrader: (7)

You may notice a tad more power & faster speeds through the bends

TX.

markGT

I had one few years ago when I got rid of my classic and I have to say I've never been so disappointed by a car. After all the hype in magazines like EVO etc etc I was expecting something special. The 172 didn't feel too quick, nowhere near as quick as the scoob and not a patch on my old CTR. After a couple of months I sold it on and bought an EVO VI TME and an MY05 STI PPP. Now they are quick I suppose it just didn't do it for me.

wrxcraig

[QUOTE=mac12;6963873]my brother had the 172 clio and at the time i had a vectra 2.6sri and there was nothing between themQUOTE]

i had the vectra st200 and i gained on him in some places but basically nothing really in it. But they do handle very well.

Fantom

I'm loving my 172. Under £6k for a 2002 with 35k miles in mint condition. Much cheaper to run that my 94 wrx was and dare I say it more fun to drive. Only let down for me so far is the seats are too high. Having to buy buckets for it as I'm just too tall (6'5").

Martin-STI

My two cars.

One for everyday fun and one for weekend fun!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!11

Martin-STI

182 Sport.
With both Cup Packs and grooved discs all round..........

Daz34

Martin-STI

Once on cam these things can move, and also take corners!!!!

Mad Scientist

182 has a better power to weight ratio than a standard blob wrx, and no turbo lag.

Just bought the Mrs one!

rossyboy

iTrader: (8)

The clios dont half fall apart though. We are getting rid after 4 years of ownership as its becoming a bit of a joke.

Classic example -

last week the hazard warning lights were put on, but then they wouldnt go off again New switch required after being pressed once FFS!

Mad Scientist

Good job Subarus never break then!!!!!!


(By the way, my 04wrx ppp put a rod through the block the day before it went back!)


£ for £, the Clio is a cracking car. Was considering taking out a warranty on it.............will DEFFINATELY be doing that now!

lom the bom

i had an sti but the gas it was drinking was not funny so i bought a 182 cup had a full milltek plus decat, itg filter, remap ,konis all round,groved discs all round its 208 bhp and 229 ft and still getting 35 mpg ,plus its a small car

alcazar

iTrader: (2)

Eldest has a 197 Sport. It's almost impossible to shake him off, especially on twisties

And I've got around 400/400 in a classic.

sparkysx

iTrader: (2)

Had a 182 a few years ago, and I thought it was a cracking car, had to sell it to put money towards a house. The power doesnt kick in until 5k though, but when it does, it feels like a turbo, also they have plastic wings, so thats a bit stupid.

Shaun

400bhp don't account for a lot if you can't exploit it from behind the wheel!

m444rk

in my old uk turbo with 218bhp i found it very difficult to get away from the likes of the 172/182's & 306 GTI6 etc... I also lost the feeling of invincibility, but now got a 97 WRX w/ sports cat, induction kit & mapped up to 300bhp and none of them stand a chance against this one thankfully

Darc174

iTrader: (13)

Hmmm... I blow these things away,

172s,182s and the new 197 same as the megane they don't come close :/

Darc

Johnny E

I track and sprint my little 172 and my times are better then a lot of Subaru's.

And i also have a 300 brake classic

Stevesbluewrx

iTrader: (4)

My other half had a 172 Sport and I hated the bloody thing. Things kept breaking and it felt sluggish (too heavy).

We took it to a place in Portsmouth for a tune up and service etc and then took it to Surrey Rolling Road and it made 170bhp . lol

Steve

Norman Dog

iTrader: (1)

3 years on and another 70BHP, I'm no longer troubled by these.

Rob Day

iTrader: (78)

Put the 'former' STIG in a standard 172/182 and then in a standard newage impreza, and then thorow it around the Topgear test track and I would imagine the Clio would win, however send both to the nurburgring and I woudl think the Impreza would win hands down.

Its more about the course/Road and the driver behind the wheel..... Not just which has the power pumping muscles.

Obviously tyres, brakes and suspension is important, but lets assum both cars are standard.....


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2. Ultima GTR 720 1:12.8 139 '00 720 / 1050 Ultima
3. Bugatti Veyron 16.4 Super Sport 1:16.8 132 '10 1199 / 1888 The Stig
4. Gumpert Apollo Sport 1:17.1 132 '07 700 / 1200 the Stig
5. Ascari A10 1:17.3 131 '07 634 / 1285 The Stig
6. Caterham 7 CSR 260 1:17.4 131 '05 260 / 530 Dunlop Tester
7. Koenigsegg CCX 1:17.6 131 '06 806 / 1456 The Stig
8. Noble M600 1:17.7 131 '09 659 / 1277 The Stig
9. Pagani Zonda C12-F Clubsport Roadster 1:17.8 130 650 / 1232 the Stig
10. Caterham R500 1:17.9 130 '08 263 / 506 The Stig
11. Bugatti EB 16.4 Veyron 1:18.3 130 '05 1001 / 1890 The Stig
12. Pagani Zonda F 1:18.4 129 '05 602 / 1371 The Stig
13. Maserati MC12 1:18.9 129 '04 632 / 1335 The Stig
14. Ferrari Enzo 1:19.0 129 '02 660 / 1365 The Stig
15. Radical SR3 1:19.0 129 '02 205 / 495 topgear
16. Lamborghini Murcielago LP 670-4 SuperVeloce 1:19.0 129 '09 670 / 1664 The Stig
17. Ferrari 458 Italia 1:19.1 128 '09 570 / 1540 The Stig
18. Ariel Atom 1:19.5 128 303 / 500 The Stig
19. Lamborghini Gallardo LP560-4 1:19.5 (partly damp) 128 '08 560 / 1530 Stig
20. Porsche 997 GT2 1:19.5 (partly damp) 128 '07 530 / 1440 Stig
21. Ferrari 430 Scuderia 1:19.7 127 '07 510 / 1402 The Stig
22. Nissan GT-R 1:19.7 127 '08 479 / 1740 the stig
23. Porsche Carrera GT 1:19.8 127 '03 612 / 1380 The Stig
24. Lamborghini Murcielago LP640 1:19.8 127 '06 640 / 1805 The Stig
25. Chevrolet Corvette ZR1 1:20.4 (damp) 126 '08 647 / 1530 The Stig
26. Ascari KZ1 1:20.7 (Damp) 126 '03 507 / 1350 The Stig
27. Lamborghini Gallardo LP 570-4 Superleggera 1:20.8 126 '10 570 / 1430 The Stig
28. McLaren Mercedes SLR 1:20.9 125 '03 626 / 1768 The Stig
29. Porsche 997 GT3 RS (facelift) 1:21.00 125 '10 450 / 1400 The Stig
30. Ferrari 599 GTB Fiorano 1:21.2 125 '06 620 / 1748 The Stig
31. Mercedes SLS AMG 1:21.6 124 '10 571 / 1620 The Stig
32. Audi R8 V10 5.2 FSI 1:21.6 (Damp) 124 '09 525 / 1620 The Stig (White)
33. Ford GT 1:21.9 124 '04 550 / 1538 The Stig
34. Porsche 997 Turbo Cabriolet facelift 1:22.2 124 '09 500 / 1670 the stig
35. Ferrari 360 CS 1:22.3 123 '03 425 / 1280 The Stig
36. Porsche 996 GT3 RS 1:22.3 123 '03 381 / 1360 The Stig
37. Audi R8 V10 Spyder 1:22.3 123 '10 525 / 1720 the stig
38. Chevrolet Corvette Z06 1:22.4 123 '05 513 / 1437.3 Top Gear, Stig
39. Noble M15 1:22.5 123 '06 455 / 1250 The Stig
40. Lexus LF-A 1:22.8 (Wet) 123 '10 560 / 1609 The Stig
41. Ferrari F430 1:22.9 122 '05 489 / 1450 The Stig
42. Mercedes SL65 AMG Black Series 1:23.0 122 '09 670 / 1870 The Stig
43. KTM X-Bow 1:23.10 122 '08 241 / 871 The Stig
44. Porsche 997 GT3 (facelift) 1:23.10 122 '09 435 / 1376 The Stig
45. Ferrari F430 Spyder 1:23.2 122 '05 489 / 1599 The Stig
46. WestField XTR2 1:23.2 122 '05 180 / 410 The Stig
47. Lamborghini Murcielago 1:23.7 121 '02 580 / 1800 The Stig
48. Pagani Zonda C12 S 1:23.8 (mildly moist 121 '02 555 / 1250 the Stig
49. Aston Martin DBS 1:23.9 121 '07 517 / 1695 the Stig
50. Koenigsegg CC8S 1:23.9 121 '00 664 / 1175 The Stig (Black)
51. Ariel Atom 2 1:24.0 121 '05 245 / 480 The Stig
52. Veritas RS 3 1:24.2 (V8 480hp pre 121 '09 600 / 1170 The Stig
53. Audi R8 1:24.40 (damp track 120 '06 420 / 1560 The Stig
54. TVR Sagaris 1:24.6 120 '03 380 / 1078 The Stig
55. TVR Tuscan MK2 1:24.8 120 '03 350 / 1100 The Stig
56. Mitsubishi Evo VIII FQ400 1:24.8 120 '05 405 / 1483 The Stig (White)
57. Mercedes E63 AMG 1:24.9 120 '09 525 / 1765 the stig
58. Bentley Continental Supersports 1:24.9 120 '10 630 / 2333 the stig
59. Porsche Boxster Spyder 1:24.9 120 '10 324 / 1275 The Stig
60. Noble M12 GTO-3R 1:25.0 (damp) 119 '05 356 / 1080 kg The Stig
61. Lotus Exige S 1:25.1 119 '05 222 / 933 The Stig
62. BMW M3 Sedan (E90) 1:25.3 119 '07 420 / 1646 The Stig
63. Audi RS4 (B7) 1:25.6 119 '05 420 / 1720 The Stig
64. Lamborghini Gallardo Spyder 1:25.7 118 '06 520 / 1748 The Stig
65. Lotus Evora 1:25.7 118 '10 280 / 1398 Top Gear/The Stig
66. Lamborghini Gallardo 1:25.8 (Wet) 118 '03 500 / 1613 The Stig
67. Morgan Aero 8 GTN 1:25.9 118 335 / 932 The Stig
68. Mercedes CLK 63 Black Series 1:26 118 '07 507 / 1745 The Stig (White)
69. BMW Z4 M Roadster 1:26.0 118 '06 343 / 1444 The Stig
70. Mitsubishi Evo VIII MR FQ 320 1:26.0 118 '05 326 / 1400 The Stig
71. BMW M5 (E60) 1:26.2 118 '05 507 / 1848 The Stig
72. Brabus SV12 S Biturbo Roadster 1:26.2 118 '06 740 / 1950 The Stig
73. Porsche 997 Carrera S 1:26.20 (damp track) 118 '04 355 / 1420 The Stig
74. Vauxhall VXR8 Bathurst S 1:26.3 118 '09 568 / 1830 The Stig
75. Lotus Exige 1:26.4 (mildly moist 118 '04 192 / 907 The Stig
76. Porsche Cayman S 1:26.7 117 '05 295 / 1406 The Stig
77. Jaguar XF-R 1:26.7 117 '09 510 / 1864 The Stig (White)
78. Ferrari 575 Maranello 1:26.8 117 '02 515 / 1760 The Stig
79. Chevrolet Corvette C6 1:26.8 117 '04 400 / 1470 The Stig
80. Aston Martin V12 Vantage 1:26.80 117 '09 517 / 1680 The Stig
81. Mercedes CLS 55 AMG 1:26.9 117 '05 476 / 1958 The Stig
82. Lexus IS F 1:26.9 117 '07 423 / 1732 The Stig
83. TVR T350C 1:27.0 (damp) 117 '03 350 / Top Gear/ The Stig
84. Aston Martin Vanquish S 1:27.1 117 '04 520 / 1875 The Stig
85. Aston Martin DB9 1:27.1 117 '04 450 / 1710 The Stig
86. HSV Maloo R8 1:27.1 117 '08 417 / The Stig
87. Porsche 996 GT3 late 1:27.2 (wet) 116 '03 380 / 1380 The Stig
88. Spyker C8 Spyder 1:27.3 116 '03 405 / 1250 The Stig
89. Tesla Roadster 1:27.30 (Damp) 116 '08 252 / 1324 The Stig
90. Nissan 370Z 1:27.5 116 '09 330 / 1583 The Stig
91. Wiesmann Roadster MF3 SMG 1:27.9 115 343 / 1220 The Stig
92. Chevrolet Camaro SS 2010 1:27.9 115 '10 432 / 1750 the stig
93. BMW M3 CSL (E46) 1:28.0 (very wet) 115 '03 360 / 1385 The Stig
94. Renault Megane R26.R 1:28.10 115 '08 230 / 1252 The Stig
95. Marcos TSO GT2 1:28.2 115 '06 475 / 1172 The Stig
96. Subaru Impreza WRX STI (2.5l) 1:28.2 115 '07 300 / 1527 The Stig
97. BMW Z4 sDrive35i 1:28.2 115 '09 306 / 1580 The Stig
98. BMW X5 M 1:28.2 (Wet) 115 '09 555 / 2400 THE STIG
99. Mitsubishi Lancer Evo X FQ300 SST 1:28.22 115 '08 291 / 1590 The Stig
100. Dodge Viper SRT-10 Roadster 1:28.5 (very wet) 115 '03 517 / 1526 Top Gear
101. MG X-Power SV 1:28.6 115 320 / 1543 The Stig
102. Porsche 987 Boxster S (276bhp) 1:28.7 114 '05 280 / 1345 The Stig
103. Mitsubishi Evo VIII FQ 300 1:28.9 114 '03 309 / 1410 The Stig
104. Ford Roush Mustang 415 1:28:0 115 '06 421 / Stig
105. Alpina Roadster V8 1:29.0 114 '03 375 / 1619 The Stig
106. Mercedes CL 65 AMG 1:29.0 114 '04 612 / 2055 The Stig
107. Ford Focus RS Mk. II 1:29.30 114 '09 305 / 1467 The Stig
108. Subaru Impreza WRX STI WR1 1:29.4 114 '05 320 / 1470 The Stig
109. Shelby GT500 1:30.0 113 '06 507 / 1807 The Stig
110. Subaru Impreza WRX STi 1:30.1 113 '05 280 / 1500 The Stig
111. VW Golf Mk V R32 1:30.4 112 '05 247 / 1510 The Stig
112. Aston Martin DB7 GT 1:30.4 112 '03 435 / 1780 The Stig
113. Renault Megane Sport F1-Team R26 1:30.6 112 '07 231 / 1375 The Stig
114. Audi S4 (B6) 1:30.9 112 '04 344 / 1660 The Stig
115. Vauxhall VX220 Turbo 1:31.3 111 '03 200 / 930 The Stig
116. Vauxhall VXR8 1:31.3 111 '07 417 / 1812 The Stig
117. Audi TT 2.0 TFSI (8J) 1:31.4 111 '06 200 / 1310 Top Gear
118. Honda NSX-R 1:31.6 (very wet) 111 '02 280 / 1270 The Stig
119. Mazda RX-8 1:31.8 111 '02 231 / 1400 The Stig
120. Nissan 350Z (283bhp) 1:31.8 111 '02 287 / 1532 The Stig
121. BMW M3 (E46) 1:31.8 111 '00 343 / 1565 The Stig
122. BMW 535D (E60) 1:31.8 111 274 / 1659 Stig
123. BMW 130i 1:31.9 110 '05 258 / 1450 The Stig
124. Opel Astra OPC '05 1:32.0 110 '05 241 / 1358 The Stig
125. Mazda 3 MPS 1:32.0 110 '06 260 / 1485 The Stig
126. Mercedes S63 AMG (W221) 1:32.1 (Very Wet) 110 '06 525 / 2070 Top Gear
127. Ford Focus RS 1:32.2 110 '03 215 / 1290 The Stig
128. Mazda 6 MPS 1:32.2 110 '06 260 / 1616 The Stig
129. Lotus Esprit V8 1:32.5 110 '02 350 / 1380 The Stig
130. Renault Megane Sport Trophy 1:32.5 110 '05 224 / 1371 The Stig
131. VW Golf Mk V GTI Edition 30 1:32.6 110 '07 230 / 1332 The Stig
132. Audi TT 3.2 quattro (8N) 1:32.7 110 '03 250 / 1520 The Stig
133. Honda Civic Type R (EP3 Facelift) 1:32.8 109 '04 200 / 1239 Stig
134. Mercedes SLK 350 (R171) 1:32.9 (wet) 109 '04 272 / 1488 The Stig
135. Mercedes SL 55 AMG 1:33.0 (very wet) 109 '06 517 / 1960 The Stig
136. MG ZT 260 1:33.00 109 '05 260 / 1774 The Stig
137. Noble M12 GTO 1:33.1 (very wet) 109 '00 310 / 980 The Stig
138. Audi Q7 V12 TDI 1:33.3 (Wet) 109 '08 500 / 2605 THE STIG
139. Cadillac CTS-V 1:33.4 (Very Wet) 109 '05 406 / 1704 Top Gear/ Stig
140. Seat Leon Cupra 1:33.5 109 '06 241 / 1420 The Stig
141. Ford Focus ST 1:33.5 109 '05 225 / 1392 The Stig
142. Honda Civic Type-R (FN2) 1:33.5 109 '07 201 / 1355 Top Gear/The Stig
143. VW Golf Mk V GTI 1:33.7 108 '04 200 / 1303 The Stig
144. Renault Clio 182 1:33.8 108 '05 182 / 1090 The Stig
145. Renault Clio RS III Cup Facelift 1:34.00 108 '09 200 / 1240 The Stig
146. Ford Mondeo ST220 1:34.5 107 '02 226 / 1490 Stig
147. Jaguar XKR 1:34.7 107 '06 420 / 1776 The Stig
148. Volvo S60 R 1:35.0 107 '03 295 / 1667 Stig
149. Opel (Vauxhall) Vectra VXR 1:35.3 107 '06 284 / 1370 Top Gear/ The Stig
150. Abarth 500 essesse 1:35.5 106 '08 160 / 1117 The Stig
151. Alfa Romeo 147 GTA 1:35.6 106 250 / 1427 The Stig
152. Lotus Elise S2 1:35.6 (very wet) 106 '06 136 / 860 The Stig
153. Renault Clio V6 Mk II 1:36.2 (very wet) 106 '03 250 / 1419 The Stig
154. Aston Martin V12 Vanquish 1:36.20 (wet) 106 '01 460 / 1882 The Stig
155. Alfa Romeo Brera 2.2 JTS 1:36.5 105 '06 185 / 1445 Top Gear
156. Honda Civic Type-R (EP3) 1:36.5 (Wet) 105 '01 200 / 1246 The Stig
157. Porsche 986 Boxster (225bhp) 1:37.0 (very wet) 105 '02 228 / 1275 Stig
158. BMW Z4 3.0i 1:37.3 (very wet) 104 '03 231 / 1384 Stig
159. Honda S2000 1:37.4 (very wet!) 104 '99 239 / 1260 The Stig
160. Saab 9-5 Aero 1:37.9 104 264 / 1495 Top Gear/The Stig
161. Maserati Coupe Cambiocorsa 1:38.0 (Very wet) 104 '02 390 / 1580 Top Gear/The Stig
162. Alfa Romeo 8C Competizione 1:38.20 (Very wet) 103 '08 450 / 1400 The Stig
163. Bowler Wildcat 1:39.4 102 '02 221 / 1825 The Stig
164. Bentley Arnage T 1:40 (v.wet) 102 '02 457 / 2585 Stig
165. Rover 416 GTi 16V 1:42.0 100 124 / 1155 Top Gear/The Stig
166. Renault Avantime V6 1:42.5 99 '02 207 / 1739 Top Gear/ The Stig
167. Kia Cee'd 1:44.1 98 '09 126 / 1355 Thomas Cruise Mapoth
168. Suzuki Liana 1:44.3 97 '01 106 / 1150 Rubens Barichelo
169. Chevrolet Lacetti 1.8 1:45.8 96 '06 119 / 1280 Jay Kay
170. Aston Martin DB5 1:46.0 96 '63 282 / 1565 The Stig
171. Audi 80 1.8E 1:46.0 96 '86 111 / 1070 Top Gear/The Stig
172. Volvo 760 GLE 1:48.0 94 162 / 1566 Top Gear/The Stig