every time i play CS i'm allways last on the map (despite low ping) i assume this is due to my PC spec, its a P3 500 about 2 1/2 years old.

so... Q1- if i upgrade the pc will there be any gameplay improvement or s it just the maploading that will be quicker?

and... Q2- what is i priority to upgrade? processor? ram? graphics card?

dont want to spend much more than £250-£300 on it unless i have to.

any ideas

Tiggs

ps- i know nuthin about pc's so nothing techie

 

Ello tiggs what fps do you get and what screen res can you run the game at?

 

ADSL?

I have a PIII 833 or something and usually get on firstish. That means u get to shoo tyour team mates in the useless unrecorded round before everyone gets on.

 

I seem to get on first everytime with my adsl, I have got a 1.3ghz machine, 256 ram and a 64meg graphics card

 

i'm on NTL cable modem

fps- wtf?

scren res- dont know! how do i check?

Tiggs

 

I read your thread wrong dude, fps = frames per second

you can run net_graph 1 and see what bit rate you are getting in and out, there are some tweaks to improve this but I canny find the link, anyone got a connection rate tweak page?

 

Your HDD may be fragmented.

How much memory have u got, that's usually a cheap and effective upgrade.

fps = frames per second

Screen res you can see in windows control panel, display, settings.

These should be the same in your CS video config menu screen. In the game itself that is. (Not when you're playing it, but when you adjust stiff like gamma etc.)

 

so i go into the game and type net_graph 1 on the console?

 

Yup and this thing appears in the bottom right which tells you your fps, in and out bit rate and some nice little graphs which should be green and flat, if they are bumpy and red then this is bad news!

 

No in the game at the console type cl_showfps 1

You can then see your fps in the top left hand corner

 

so i can do this any time? like now ?

 

Er, assuming you are playing CS, yes.

 

ok, i'll try it!

 

No do net_graph 1 it gives you more info!!!!

 

net_graph 3

shows fps, ping, loss and choke which are ueful in showing how well the conection and PC are handling things.

Would suspect its more your connection than PC. is it a stupid internal modem or a decent external one ?

The three major factors for your PC will be..

1) Disk - New disks are getting ever quicker.
2) Memory - 128Mb good, 256 better anything else is for Pub Talk
3) Graphics Card - Even a modest new Geforce 2MX400 (£40ish) will help. Half-life is an old graphics engine so will not make use of any new Geforce 3 fancy bollox.

Regards

Deano

 

Oi whats wrong with net_graph 1? huh? huh?

 

ok- did net graph 1

got:

31 fps

in: 32

out: 28

green line looked like

.'.''''...''....''.''.''..''. ie- not straight!

blue was like above but worse and red was pretty straight



whats all that mean

and the modem is external cable job (my ping always seems ok)

 

Tiggs

We need to know

Hard Disk Size
Memory Size
Grhapic Card Make/Model/PCI or AGP Slot
Operating System (98,ME,2K etc)

If the PC is a big brand stick the full Model details on and we should be able to find most of the above.

30 fps would indicate PC could do with a bit of help - What resolution is that at (640x480, 800x600, 1024x768)

Deano

 

Dam

net_graph 1 gives silly graphs - net_grah 3 actually gives some figures you can work with

 

right:

h drive is 12 gig
memory is 128
graphics card??? whatever it came with
op system- 98
screen res. 1024 * 768

credit card is ready to go! what do i need

Tiggs

ps- pc is patriot

 

bloody hell u lot not got any work to do !!

i go to do an hours work (even though on holiday ) and this threads pops up from no where !

yeah more ram and at least a decent 32mb graphics card.

nvidia still the best imho.

 

I will quite happily stand corrected but I'm sure that either of the net_graph's lower your fps themselves (or so I've read on CS forums many a time).

Use cl_showfps 1 in console for more accurate figure

 

did net graph 3. loss jumps from 1-3 and choke is 0?????

how do i turn it off now though??

 

net_graph 0

 

Anybody up for tonight on STi locked ? (If I can buy that is) Am free from 8-10

 

steve, not working?? what do u call this? i find all this pc stuff very taxing.

anyway- ram and graphics card- that it? no flashy cpu or thingies with big names???

Tiggs

 

how come you lot are all on but no ones icq is on (apart from steve/dean)

Tiggs

 

No mate, my old PIII which was a 450mhz, with a 16meg voodoo and 128 megs of RAM was good enough to make CS fly. Just get some more ram and a new graphics card. Half life minimum spec is only a P200!

 

Tiggs - Either by checking your manuals or looking inside you need to know if you have an "AGP" graphics slot on the motherboard.

PCI slots are white, AGP would be brown set further back from the rest on the right of the white PCI slots (looking down onto the M/B - all slots at the back)

Deano

 

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