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Old Jul 24, 2006 | 03:48 PM
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ok, here is a pic of my car



the white is original, the red was sprayed on as 2 pack about 3 years back, i am now wanting the car all white again.

i have done a test on one C pillar on removing the "lip" left by the painted line (everything in front of the rear doors is all graphics and not a problem, only the rear is the problem)

the lip can be smoothed over with primer fine, what i need to know, is do you think i will have to prime the entire rear end to allow the new white paint to give the correct colour?

normally i would just use primer where its needed, ie: over any bare metal or repairs etc etc, but a few people have told me spraying white over red is a big NO NO

i will prime up the lot of needed, i am just not sure if i need to do the whole lot?
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Old Jul 24, 2006 | 04:12 PM
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i wud keep it as it is

looks very nice

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Old Jul 24, 2006 | 04:37 PM
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bit late for that

started flaking off where it was not keyed properlly

and im getting a bit old for the whole thing TBH

would rather have it all white and not have people taking photos everytime i park the thing up!
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Old Jul 24, 2006 | 07:38 PM
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hmm found this on the Max Meyer webpage

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Bleeding, Colour Change

Description Discolouration of the topcoat, either in the form of a halo, or, in severe cases, a complete colour change. This defect usually only occurs when spraying over red or maroon paint.
best prime it all up then!
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Old Jul 24, 2006 | 10:17 PM
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Micky put in a boil wash and it'll come out pink

I'll get me coat
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Old Jul 25, 2006 | 08:38 AM
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thought it would come out smaller


been having another think, if the red paint is coverd by clearcoat, it can not bleed??????

therefore the only parts that would need primed would be where the clearcoat was rubbed away?
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Old Jul 27, 2006 | 11:24 PM
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ok, i have finnished one side, took a lot of the door and c pillar down to bare metal, primed up and flatted back

the red has not "bled" (sp?) the primer that i can tell, what i have done is ordered a litre of cheap ford white paint from ebay for £13, i figured i would spray that over first, and if it turns pink, then i know i dont waste any expensive standox subaru paint on it
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Old Jul 30, 2006 | 08:44 AM
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red has still not "bled" into the grey primer, not sure if it will or not

litre of cheap ford white is being painted on today to see what happens
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Old Jul 30, 2006 | 07:48 PM
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did a tester today, how long are you supposed to wait to see if it bleeds??

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Old Jul 30, 2006 | 08:07 PM
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Micky, it won't bleed or anything like that.

I just hope for your sake, this time the rear is the same white as the front.
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Old Jul 30, 2006 | 08:31 PM
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the ford white is a better match then the cocknose job the bodyshop did the first time around

and it should match this time as i am painting pretty much all of it
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Old Jul 30, 2006 | 08:51 PM
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Old Aug 4, 2006 | 10:42 PM
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left the ford white on for a week, no change at all, just finished spraying over with the correct shade, pics to follow
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Old Oct 1, 2006 | 12:05 PM
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* update * for reference

2 months on, no colour bleeding present

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