having big problems fitting 16cm mb quart in the front door of my my98. the spacer plate supplied is no good, it fouls the door trim by about 1cm and their is no way the trim will go back on. any ideas ? (is their an aftermarket spacer i can buy, or should i just forget it and buy 13cm speakers and use the original spacer ? ) http://bbs.scoobynet.co.uk/confused.gif

What year Impreza do you have?

chiark,
its a 1998 impreza , uk model, with full prodrive interior....... help !!!!! http://bbs.scoobynet.co.uk/confused.gif

Hiya slim - up late! I'm assuming that you've got the same door panels as below (ie you've got the "newer interior")

http://www.chiark.com/scooby/image/doorcard_sml.jpg

If so, they'll fit with a bit of effort.

What I did was use the existing "pods" and a 12mm MDF spacer ring. You may need to remove a bit of the plastic from the pod in places to make the driver (speaker) actually fit.

You need the spacer for two reasons: to clear the window at the back, and to stop you from having to completely hack the pod to bits.

The MB Quarts may have come with a mounting template? If so, use this to make the ring.

This should hopefully be fairly straightforward. Let us know how you get on.

thanks chiark , yes my door is similar.once i have made the 12mm spacer where does it go ? between the back of the speaker and the original pod i presume (sorry for being ignorant !!!). also, i have a genesis amp, a kenwood amp (both about 35cm by 20cm by 7cm ) and a 10 disk changer, any ideas where to mount them ? (i have prodrive electric recaro's, not much space underneath )

Yep, you're right. Spacer ring goes between the back of the speaker and the original pod.

For mounting, your only viable option is the boot. I've gone for this approach:
http://www.chiark.com/scooby/image/wholeboot_sml.jpg

Some have mounted the CD-changer on a piece of MDF in the spare wheel well, others have hung it under the parcel shelf.

For amp, you could simply mount it on the back of the seats and carefully run the cables so that everything is 100% safe, or you could again maybe use the spare wheel well. Amps are normally designed to run either horizontally or vertically, but NOT upside down as the heat will go back into the circuit board - mounting upside down may shorten the life of the amp...

If you're going to add a sub, you could always mount the amp on the back seats temporarily then plan on making a box and amp rack in the future. In that case, don't cut your cables too short!

Hope this helps,

Nick.

thanks yet again chiark , i will get stuck in this weekend (though i am not looking forward to it !! ) at the moment i am driving around with half my trim missing and this is not a good idea with a fully de-catted ss exhaust. one last question - yes i am putting subs in (jl audio of course). on your own install did you custom make the sub(s) box or did you just put in a standard box or two and then fit a piece of mdf flush with the boot so that it looks as if it is custom made ? ps it looks damn good !

Nick you are such a bloody show off.

Do me a favour, and ditch the JLs, go to khalid and listen to the Audio Bahns, or the veritas.

You will see the folley of your ways, and veritably fart in the general direction of JL audio. http://bbs.scoobynet.co.uk/smile.gif http://bbs.scoobynet.co.uk/smile.gif http://bbs.scoobynet.co.uk/smile.gif

why did I write veritas when I met petras.

Veritas make some 8 inch mids which retail for around 1000. They have a coaxial horn loaded compression driver in them which crosses over at 500Hz.

Scott has them in his car, Oh my god!

Must come up and see you soon, will have to bring 205 or fto though http://bbs.scoobynet.co.uk/wink.gif

I still like the JLs, but could be persuaded to change to a single 12...

...may go and see Khalid. However, we're moving house at the moment so cash is non-existent!

New speakers sound "interesting"!!

Nick.

Nick

I'd recommend the Audio Bahns , I have 2x 12" long throws in my Scoob now , and sound fantastic http://bbs.scoobynet.co.uk/biggrin.gif http://bbs.scoobynet.co.uk/biggrin.gif http://bbs.scoobynet.co.uk/biggrin.gif

At the moment Pure Carma's prices are competitive , as they opened only a couple of months ago , give them a call on (01702) 333335 and ask for Chris.

Nate.

chiark ,
any chance that you could read my earlier post on your subs and help me out ? . thanks again

oh and if you are changing your subs , drop me a line , as i am in the process of upgrading and i will take them off your hands http://bbs.scoobynet.co.uk/smile.gif

nick ,
where did you get the internal sizes (volume cm3 ) from ? as i have made a few boxes before and i am going to give it a go .
sorry about the 1001 questions but i want to get it right .

Slim,

It's a custom made box that I laboured over.. Basically, it's a wedge shape with three chambers - two for subs and one for the amp and gubbins. I made it from 12mm mdf with fiberglass to keep the weight down...

...though the amount of fiberglass in there probably weighs more than the extra wood would have done!

Will let you know if I upgrade, but as I'm moving house at the moment, I doubt it will be soon!

Cheers,

Nick.

The JL Audio website gives ideal volumes for their speakers, and has some pretty good tutorials to boot -

nick ,
very informative site , thanks . i think thats about it for the moment, thanks again http://bbs.scoobynet.co.uk/smile.gif
john