Puff The Magic Wagon!

iTrader: (2)

I don't really care as will be for trackdays but its says on the box...

WARNING: This Material Must Not Be Used On Public Highways



WTF?

Are these pads road legal? What on earth do they put in them? I've not come across pads which say that they can't be used on normal roads before.

Godspeed Brakes

iTrader: (259)

It will aimed at people thinking they work like a road pad , cold wet mornings touching the brakes and not working , you do need heat to get them to work properly , Just covering there ***** I suppose

MTR

The std spec pads for an STi7 MY02 are MDB1859 (pad style) and are made with M1144 compound material.
i.e. If you buy MDB1859 pads (without specifying the compound) they are MDB1859M1144's

However the gentelman I spoke to last week at Mintex (I won't post his name) strongly advised me to use M1155 compound on any Impreza Turbo.
So he considers them suitable for road use.

I don't know if M1144's state the 'not for road use' comment on the box.

Just for reference the pads Mintex list for the fronts on a STi7 are the same as Mitsibushi EVO 6 & 7 , but they use 320mm diameter discs, STi7's are 325mm diameter, and therefore you lose 2.5mm on the swept radius on the disc.
The pad back plates are identical to OEM, but the friction material is of a smaller area.

Cheers
MTR

TonyNesta

IIRC, Prodrive used to recommend 1155s as a pad upgrade, back in the days of the classics.

T

Sti_Lad

I just bought a set of DS2500 pads for my MY03 Sti PPP and the chap I spoke to about them was the main importer for ferodo UK ( racing) and said that a new regulation meant that ANY pad that isnt within +/- 15% (IIRC) of the OEM pad was illegal... so the DS2500 are better than 15% and thus illegal!

Strange to be illegal for better pads!
LOL
But this is all IIRC of course lol

StopTech

To be street legal in the UK, pads must meet something called "Regulation 90," which is an ECE (Economic Commission for Europe) regulation. The manufacturer of the pad must take the pad to an independent testing authority and spend a lot of money and time to run the pad through a series of tests. When the pad passes, it gets an "E" mark. If a pad states that it is not street legal, it is possible that the pad did not meet the Reg 90 requirements, but it is also possible that the pad manufacturer elected not to test and certify that pad for some reason... if it is a race only pad, for example.

stockcar

gets a bit more involving than that as its down to the requirement of +or- 15% variation in stopping ability (mentioned above).............as rightly said most "upgrade" pads fail this test miserably as they are too good so manufacturers don't submit them for testing and save themselves time and money!!
its main requirement is for manufacturers (not end users) so that it puts an end to budget factory's selling "cornflake" pkts for your calipers!!
alyn - asperformance.com

ZIPPY

Oh my God,all of the 'Must tell my insurance' kn#bs on here are going to be panicking,they have ilegal pads fitted to their cars,what are we all going to do now.

I know rush out to my daelers and have them removed ASAP,then let my insurance know my pads are fine and meet all EU standards.

Stop fussing,if you want to stop properly ALL of the time you must fit uprated pads there is no two ways about it,some uprated pads contain asbestos for its heat properties and this voids its road legal status as all OEM pads must have no asbestos in them,IIRC.

Zippy

JamieMiller

I run 1155 pads all round on my MY00. If you bed them in correctly they will work spot on, on the road and on the track, as for not for road use, once they're fitted and been used a few times I don't think many people could prove they're legal or not. Personally I wouldn't use anything else.

Jamie

Apple

Zippy, I think you'll find asbestos was banned for passenger car applications quite a lot of years ago, trucks were a few years later. Anybody found selling asbestos based pads / linings is in for a bit of a high jump...

Alyn, I once went on a ECE R90 conference a few years ago and was part of a conversation with the bloke from the DTR (or equivalent, whetever it was then) and we thought it was to chuck out the cowboys (which it helps to do). One of the main reasons we found was so that EU countries couldn't put up trade barriers to sales if the pads etc didn't meet their own countries regs (eg KBA) - if it all passed R90 then they couldn't argue and had no excuse not to sell it

Apple