V5 Type R - Nurburgring Tyre Question
20 January 2017, 06:37 PM
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V5 Type R - Nurburgring Tyre Question
Taking my V5 Type R to the Nordschleife in June.
Due to my current set up and tyre profile 215 x 35 x 18 and the limited choice in tyre, (currently sitting on Uniroyal Rainsport 3s), I was wondering if anyone could advise if it is worth changing the profile of the tyre to a 40 to get a better choice of tyre for the Ring?
Nothing wrong with the Uniroyals - in fact I have been very impressed with the performance, especially in the wet, and may just leave them on the car, as they are only 2 years or so old with about 8-9000 miles on them.
However I've always been a fan of the Goodyear Eagle F1 or the Michelin Pilotsport...or should I go for a road legal semi-slick track tyre?
Any advice would be greatly appreciated - not going to race/impress anyone, just want to have a nice safe and progressive session on the track.
Cheers in advance
Due to my current set up and tyre profile 215 x 35 x 18 and the limited choice in tyre, (currently sitting on Uniroyal Rainsport 3s), I was wondering if anyone could advise if it is worth changing the profile of the tyre to a 40 to get a better choice of tyre for the Ring?
Nothing wrong with the Uniroyals - in fact I have been very impressed with the performance, especially in the wet, and may just leave them on the car, as they are only 2 years or so old with about 8-9000 miles on them.
However I've always been a fan of the Goodyear Eagle F1 or the Michelin Pilotsport...or should I go for a road legal semi-slick track tyre?
Any advice would be greatly appreciated - not going to race/impress anyone, just want to have a nice safe and progressive session on the track.
Cheers in advance
20 January 2017, 06:55 PM
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June can be a bit dodgy there, and it does rain a fair bit there too, I'd be inclined to leave what you've got on and just use them up out there, you won't be breaking any lap records so just concentrate on getting there and back in good shape. 
Edit to add; Nice car.
Edit to add; Nice car.
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20 January 2017, 07:00 PM
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June can be a bit dodgy there, and it does rain a fair bit there too, I'd be inclined to leave what you've got on and just use them up out there, you won't be breaking any lap records so just concentrate on getting there and back in good shape.
Edit to add; Nice car.
Edit to add; Nice car.
Cheers
21 January 2017, 08:17 AM
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Haven't really took many recent pics as I have been busy upgrading suspension bits - just the obligatory "Shellfie" or two
Popped my dragstrip cherry at York a couple of months ago in full road trim with 3/4 tank of fuel and my 110kg fat backside in the car and did an 11.8 secs 1/4 mile - which I was over the moon with all things considered.
21 January 2017, 10:41 AM
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Nice one, mate. Car looks amazing, as always. And that's a quick time for the 1/4.
The car looks pretty low in the middle photo. Do you get any front-end graze on an undulating b-road?
What suspension bits have you upgraded?
The car looks pretty low in the middle photo. Do you get any front-end graze on an undulating b-road?
What suspension bits have you upgraded?
21 January 2017, 10:52 AM
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Just had Whiteline 22mm Front ARB to match the Rear one, Whiteline front caster bushes and Whteline adjustable front droplinks and then a full 4 wheel alignment done.
Going to upgrade turbo & injectors next (when I come back from The Ring) and up the power for the last time. Any more after that would just be a bit too much I think.
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21 January 2017, 05:24 PM
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Engine is easily strong enough for 700 so no worries there
21 January 2017, 05:30 PM
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Thanks mate - had a word with my specialist today and he too said the 40 profile would risk rubbing the arches with the current set up and suggested a 225 tyre on the 35 profile as that would still give it a bit more meat
23 January 2017, 09:55 PM
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The car looks great but is way too low IMHO.
The Ring is a bumpy track and you need suspension travel otherwise you will be skipping all over the place at sections.
As Pink Ninja said, 17s and a higher profile tyre would help.
The Ring is a bumpy track and you need suspension travel otherwise you will be skipping all over the place at sections.
As Pink Ninja said, 17s and a higher profile tyre would help.
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31 January 2017, 11:12 PM
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i have done a fair bit there to be honest. I have a classic. No where near as nice looking as your beauty. I would be tempted to run out there as you are. Unless you are attending a track day, you will be fine with your road tyres. It will take you more than one visit to begin to get your head round where you are going. I would take your first visit as a sighting visit. Do as many laps as you feel comfortable. Learn the place, take your time, i call it jedi training, 10 years minimum haha. Wear a helmet, empty your car of any loose ****, bags, tools etc.
Stick to the right (even though its the racing line for most of it). Treat it like a two lane single carriage way with the left lane being the fast lane at all times. don't move to the left without double checking your mirrors, some **** moves mega fast round there. Check your oil and water levels,wheel nuts, brake pads, discs and tyre pressures. (usual track day stuff).
Have fun, do not time your laps, please video them and check after. The footage can also be used as evidence if you get caught up and its not your fault. (Fluid, contact from another vehicle etc).
Obey the yellow lights and flags, slow down and keep it down until you pass the next set of lights which are not flashing (this could be several KM). They are well spread apart.
Avoid lapping in the wet until you have an idea of where you are going and where the really slippy parts are. Its lethal and like ice in places.
Don't be a hero, your standard insurance won't cover you for you, your car or any damage you do to yourself or anyone else or the barrier. They will pay out and hunt you down for repayment. Crashing is not an option.!!!
Finally, I have drained any coolant out of my system and run water only. If you drop coolant and someone falls off because of it, you are liable.
Im sorry if this all sounds harsh but it has taken me 4 years and many laps to see so many people become a victim in a place that requires maximum respect and a lot of common sense.
Treated right this place is the best place in the world. Pm me if you need any info on where to stay, where to eat and drink and get merry.
I may see you there
Stick to the right (even though its the racing line for most of it). Treat it like a two lane single carriage way with the left lane being the fast lane at all times. don't move to the left without double checking your mirrors, some **** moves mega fast round there. Check your oil and water levels,wheel nuts, brake pads, discs and tyre pressures. (usual track day stuff).
Have fun, do not time your laps, please video them and check after. The footage can also be used as evidence if you get caught up and its not your fault. (Fluid, contact from another vehicle etc).
Obey the yellow lights and flags, slow down and keep it down until you pass the next set of lights which are not flashing (this could be several KM). They are well spread apart.
Avoid lapping in the wet until you have an idea of where you are going and where the really slippy parts are. Its lethal and like ice in places.
Don't be a hero, your standard insurance won't cover you for you, your car or any damage you do to yourself or anyone else or the barrier. They will pay out and hunt you down for repayment. Crashing is not an option.!!!
Finally, I have drained any coolant out of my system and run water only. If you drop coolant and someone falls off because of it, you are liable.
Im sorry if this all sounds harsh but it has taken me 4 years and many laps to see so many people become a victim in a place that requires maximum respect and a lot of common sense.
Treated right this place is the best place in the world. Pm me if you need any info on where to stay, where to eat and drink and get merry.
I may see you there
31 January 2017, 11:32 PM
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i have done a fair bit there to be honest. I have a classic. No where near as nice looking as your beauty. I would be tempted to run out there as you are. Unless you are attending a track day, you will be fine with your road tyres. It will take you more than one visit to begin to get your head round where you are going. I would take your first visit as a sighting visit. Do as many laps as you feel comfortable. Learn the place, take your time, i call it jedi training, 10 years minimum haha. Wear a helmet, empty your car of any loose ****, bags, tools etc.
Stick to the right (even though its the racing line for most of it). Treat it like a two lane single carriage way with the left lane being the fast lane at all times. don't move to the left without double checking your mirrors, some **** moves mega fast round there. Check your oil and water levels,wheel nuts, brake pads, discs and tyre pressures. (usual track day stuff).
Have fun, do not time your laps, please video them and check after. The footage can also be used as evidence if you get caught up and its not your fault. (Fluid, contact from another vehicle etc).
Obey the yellow lights and flags, slow down and keep it down until you pass the next set of lights which are not flashing (this could be several KM). They are well spread apart.
Avoid lapping in the wet until you have an idea of where you are going and where the really slippy parts are. Its lethal and like ice in places.
Don't be a hero, your standard insurance won't cover you for you, your car or any damage you do to yourself or anyone else or the barrier. They will pay out and hunt you down for repayment. Crashing is not an option.!!!
Finally, I have drained any coolant out of my system and run water only. If you drop coolant and someone falls off because of it, you are liable.
Im sorry if this all sounds harsh but it has taken me 4 years and many laps to see so many people become a victim in a place that requires maximum respect and a lot of common sense.
Treated right this place is the best place in the world. Pm me if you need any info on where to stay, where to eat and drink and get merry.
I may see you there
Stick to the right (even though its the racing line for most of it). Treat it like a two lane single carriage way with the left lane being the fast lane at all times. don't move to the left without double checking your mirrors, some **** moves mega fast round there. Check your oil and water levels,wheel nuts, brake pads, discs and tyre pressures. (usual track day stuff).
Have fun, do not time your laps, please video them and check after. The footage can also be used as evidence if you get caught up and its not your fault. (Fluid, contact from another vehicle etc).
Obey the yellow lights and flags, slow down and keep it down until you pass the next set of lights which are not flashing (this could be several KM). They are well spread apart.
Avoid lapping in the wet until you have an idea of where you are going and where the really slippy parts are. Its lethal and like ice in places.
Don't be a hero, your standard insurance won't cover you for you, your car or any damage you do to yourself or anyone else or the barrier. They will pay out and hunt you down for repayment. Crashing is not an option.!!!
Finally, I have drained any coolant out of my system and run water only. If you drop coolant and someone falls off because of it, you are liable.
Im sorry if this all sounds harsh but it has taken me 4 years and many laps to see so many people become a victim in a place that requires maximum respect and a lot of common sense.
Treated right this place is the best place in the world. Pm me if you need any info on where to stay, where to eat and drink and get merry.
I may see you there
01 February 2017, 07:06 PM
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Mate the first thing and only thing I am going to do is thank you very much for such comprehensive and useful advice. I can't tell you how appreciative I am that you have taken the time to write it. Honestly big respect mate and rest assured I will be sharing it with the other 10 Ring virgin cars that are coming with me.
great little video here that i studied for a while to help.
https://youtu.be/qhAvWCFOzD4
Also remember that three quarters of the corners on the ring are late apex so don't turn in too early. treat it like the back roads in the UK. Get your foot down when you can see the road ahead and cool off when you can't.
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haha. cheers. glad i could shed a little more light for you. You will be hooked after your first visit. The place is out of this world. We are out there for a track day in April so that will be a nice start to the season. Just in the process of replacing the suspension and rear brakes on mine so will be taking that across after that. When are you guys heading out? Ten Virgin motors. amazing road trip.
great little video here that i studied for a while to help.
https://youtu.be/qhAvWCFOzD4
Also remember that three quarters of the corners on the ring are late apex so don't turn in too early. treat it like the back roads in the UK. Get your foot down when you can see the road ahead and cool off when you can't.
great little video here that i studied for a while to help.
https://youtu.be/qhAvWCFOzD4
Also remember that three quarters of the corners on the ring are late apex so don't turn in too early. treat it like the back roads in the UK. Get your foot down when you can see the road ahead and cool off when you can't.
- as it happens that is the exact video I have been watching along with a few othersThere are 11 cars and 19 pilots
- 8 Subarus (7 classics & 1 Blobeye all running between 350-550bhp), 1 BMW 335d, a BMW Z4 with over 400bhp and a Vauxsausage Astra with over 530bhp. Really excited....with a healthy dose of apprehension/nervousness at the same time! 
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Very nice write up classicwrx93
I have ben to the Ring 16 times, and you are spot on in your writing.
Also remember, if a guy is behinde you, and was'ent there before, then he is faster, indikate right, and let him by, mabye YOU Can learn from his lines.
Never race, and as said, make films, and look at the times in the evening ��
Drive safe..... And enjoy, a lot ��
I have ben to the Ring 16 times, and you are spot on in your writing.
Also remember, if a guy is behinde you, and was'ent there before, then he is faster, indikate right, and let him by, mabye YOU Can learn from his lines.
Never race, and as said, make films, and look at the times in the evening ��
Drive safe..... And enjoy, a lot ��
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