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Old 18 September 2017, 01:05 PM
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O how Karma is a bitch, and ferrari, they really do have some nerve.

How on earth Ferrari can blame max for that crash is beyond me, as usual Vettel gets away with it, he is 100% to blame for that, FIA may be in his pocket, but karma is fair as ever.
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O how Karma is a bitch, and ferrari, they really do have some nerve.

How on earth Ferrari can blame max for that crash is beyond me, as usual Vettel gets away with it, he is 100% to blame for that, FIA may be in his pocket, but karma is fair as ever.
Now justify that statement with something from the rule book...
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Originally Posted by neil-h
Now justify that statement with something from the rule book...
Bumper cars are allowed now? Vettel pulling across is what caused the accident, plain and simple. Had he maintained his line, rather than coming across, he would have easily swept round the outside into turn one anyway. He was way way too aggressive and it cost him.
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Originally Posted by Tidgy
Bumper cars are allowed now? Vettel pulling across is what caused the accident, plain and simple. Had he maintained his line, rather than coming across, he would have easily swept round the outside into turn one anyway. He was way way too aggressive and it cost him.
Yeah see the thing is he was perfectly entitled to make the move.
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Originally Posted by neil-h
Yeah see the thing is he was perfectly entitled to make the move.
Not if he isn't leaving enough room for other drivers, Kim caused it by being too quick off the line then ?
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Alonso caused it by being so far up the grid and surprising everyone.


Put down as a racing incident, but IMO Vettel should be taking more of the blame than the others from his track position and line out of the box.
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Originally Posted by BrownPantsRacing
Alonso caused it by being so far up the grid and surprising everyone.


Put down as a racing incident, but IMO Vettel should be taking more of the blame than the others from his track position and line out of the box.
as much as i think vettel and ferrari are a bunch of tossers and hes to blame, i do agree its a racing incident though.

Biggest issue i have is ferrari's attitude, publicly blaming max for vettels error in teh way they did is very poor indeed
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I agree. Their twitter rant was out of order.


Ferrari have always had a very unbecoming superiority complex.
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Originally Posted by BrownPantsRacing
I agree. Their twitter rant was out of order.


Ferrari have always had a very unbecoming superiority complex.
I think the grid walk pre race summed up Ferrari, when Webber tried to talk to Maurizio lol

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MMY2...ature=youtu.be

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Originally Posted by JDM_Stig
Not if he isn't leaving enough room for other drivers, Kim caused it by being too quick off the line then ?
Which would be fine if it wasn't for the fact Vettel was ahead of Verstappen the entire time.

As has been said, it was pure and simple a racing incident. All 3 of them had a hand in it on some level but no single driver is to blame.
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Originally Posted by JDM_Stig
I think the grid walk pre race summed up Ferrari, when Webber tried to talk to Maurizio lol

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MMY2...ature=youtu.be

Also the fact that Maurizio pulled out of the pre-arranged interview with Eddie Jordan at the very last minute.


They've always considered themselves to be "THE" sport of F1 and think that without them there will be no F1. Frankly, I don't care. Will be a loss of they go, but if they have that attitude then as far as I'm concerned you're just getting rid of a drain on the sport of they leave. Let them go, share out their massive yearly off the records F1 financial bonus they get to all the other smaller teams and lets see them develop too into a more competitive field and fun sport for everyone!
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Ferrari leaving f1 would be a big improvement. They bring little to the sport yet take most of the money and throw their weight around. Let em jog on.
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Couldn't agree more!


However, if they sent me a car for daily use, I would happily re-consider my position on this.
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Originally Posted by BrownPantsRacing
Couldn't agree more!


However, if they sent me a car for daily use, I would happily re-consider my position on this.
you gold digger you,,,,,,,
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Shamelessly yes.
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Originally Posted by BrownPantsRacing
Shamelessly yes.
see i'd rather have a mclaren myself

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I'd rather have a Koenigsegg personally, but it just wasn't as practical as my forester STI so I gave it a miss.
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on a slightly more serious note, did i hear right that porsche are bring an engine into f1?
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Originally Posted by Tidgy
on a slightly more serious note, did i hear right that porsche are bring an engine into f1?
No, you heard they had attended the meetings where the 2021 engine rules were discussed, but so were Aston Martin,

I found the information from Christian Horner about RB`s future engine supplier rather telling, but very few picked up on it.
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Originally Posted by JDM_Stig
No, you heard they had attended the meetings where the 2021 engine rules were discussed, but so were Aston Martin,

I found the information from Christian Horner about RB`s future engine supplier rather telling, but very few picked up on it.
Seems to be very mixed reports, google search threw up some interesting things,

http://www.motorsportmagazine.com/op...ed-bull-buyout

some reporting them coming in in 2018, some saying engines for 2021.

Makes you wonder if the powers that be would have accepted prodrive what would be happening
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Originally Posted by Tidgy
Seems to be very mixed reports, google search threw up some interesting things,

http://www.motorsportmagazine.com/op...ed-bull-buyout

some reporting them coming in in 2018, some saying engines for 2021.

Makes you wonder if the powers that be would have accepted prodrive what would be happening
Again the pit walk on Sunday by Ch4 gave some of the answers about RBR, some fat CEO guy from Aston was interviewed, they are becoming integrated in to RB as of 2018 but he didnt admit they were the going to supply an engine, but you then have to ask why they would integrate themselves for no reason . . .

I havent clicked your link, but I know Honda were trying to buy a 40% share in Torro Rosso.
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Originally Posted by JDM_Stig
Again the pit walk on Sunday by Ch4 gave some of the answers about RBR, some fat CEO guy from Aston was interviewed, they are becoming integrated in to RB as of 2018 but he didnt admit they were the going to supply an engine, but you then have to ask why they would integrate themselves for no reason . . .

I havent clicked your link, but I know Honda were trying to buy a 40% share in Torro Rosso.
read the link you donkey lol (donkey used in gest), talking about porsche buying out red bull team as a whole.

RB and Aston Marton could easily integrate and go off and do another more relevant motorsport than F1.
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Originally Posted by Tidgy
read the link you donkey lol (donkey used in gest), talking about porsche buying out red bull team as a whole.

RB and Aston Marton could easily integrate and go off and do another more relevant motorsport than F1.
Ive clicked your links before . . .

this is the interview.


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I'd love to see Porsche in the F1 again. We don't really have enough Germans in F1 at the moment!
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hahaha, this one is topical

Very caggy as usual arn't they, if porsche does come in and buy's redbull then nothing aston can do. 2021 is a long long way away in F1 terms.

Sky was talking to christian horner who did say a european manufacturer engine, although he did say we have links with a car firm, porsche and aston martin were mentioned.
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He emphatically denied on camera it was Porsche or Aston Martin though.


Bet they can't wait for their new partnership with Honda to begin!
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Originally Posted by BrownPantsRacing
He emphatically denied on camera it was Porsche or Aston Martin though.


Bet they can't wait for their new partnership with Honda to begin!
I bet alonso will be ready with some cracking radio come backs
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Ferrari again lol
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Same old same old, time for pure equal treatment and money split, if ferrari wont accept it, doors that way, please let it hit you in the *** on the way out.
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they also need to have one supplier of fuel (and maybe oil if it is still being used as a fuel) and let the teams work to that,
Horner recently said they had spent millions, just on the development of fuel for a few extra horses.



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