help please handaling
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help please handaling
I have just had alignment done as my Scooby 2004 wrx it feels like you hitting white line every time you corner at speed or eased off throttle on slightly bump road I have coilovers with adjustable camber plates adjusted to about 3cm off top of my wheels to the arc also bump steer correction kit (whiteline) 24mm arb on the way
alignment is bang on still don't no what's up any help be grateful
front toe 0.00 both sides
front camber -1.40 - 1.43
rear toe -0.02 -0.03
rear camber -1.21 -1.28
alignment is bang on still don't no what's up any help be grateful
front toe 0.00 both sides
front camber -1.40 - 1.43
rear toe -0.02 -0.03
rear camber -1.21 -1.28
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Sounds to me like you want another 0.5 degrees of camber on the rear, I run -1.75 on the rear it's crap at slow speeds and feels weird but when you load it up in the twisties it comes alive.
As for your suzzy not sure as I run standard shocks with some sort of after market spring, don't know what they are as they were on the car when I bought it.
I have super pro steering rack and roll bar bushes as well as camber bolts all round and your settings are close to mine apart from the rear, I like it, has nice direction changes, goes where you point it and feels well balanced when pushing on, but it's a road car not a track car so I won't fit coilovers on that basis.
Another point is scoobs don't like to be too low and you need to get the height right at the front and rear as well as the rebound and damping and spring rates, i'm not a coilover man so can't help with that aspect, PM bonesetter and he might be able to help.
P.S: my daily is a 54 plate wrx wagon ppp
Also i'd check everything is tightened up properly top mounts etc.
As for your suzzy not sure as I run standard shocks with some sort of after market spring, don't know what they are as they were on the car when I bought it.
I have super pro steering rack and roll bar bushes as well as camber bolts all round and your settings are close to mine apart from the rear, I like it, has nice direction changes, goes where you point it and feels well balanced when pushing on, but it's a road car not a track car so I won't fit coilovers on that basis.
Another point is scoobs don't like to be too low and you need to get the height right at the front and rear as well as the rebound and damping and spring rates, i'm not a coilover man so can't help with that aspect, PM bonesetter and he might be able to help.
P.S: my daily is a 54 plate wrx wagon ppp
Also i'd check everything is tightened up properly top mounts etc.
Last edited by ditchmyster; 18 January 2014 at 10:05 PM.
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Im not a coil over man nether but evry 1 said best thing since slice bred at the mo don't agree if i keep my foot planted seems be ok and im loosing confidence in it
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It could be the ride height or the spring rates, what coilovers are they and what are your spring rates.
The reason I don't like them is 90% of the time they're shoite and only come into their own on really smooth tarmac in the dry, and I don't seem to ever be able to find any.
does it clunk or knock?
The reason I don't like them is 90% of the time they're shoite and only come into their own on really smooth tarmac in the dry, and I don't seem to ever be able to find any.
does it clunk or knock?
Last edited by ditchmyster; 18 January 2014 at 10:15 PM.
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hsd mono pro damper set to the softest and thick that what you said about smooth tarmac true and might be the problem
Impreza GDB 5x100 MP 8kg/mm 6kg/mm Camber adjustable, pillowball Camber adjustable, pillowball Inverted front and rear dampers
Impreza GDB 5x100 MP 8kg/mm 6kg/mm Camber adjustable, pillowball Camber adjustable, pillowball Inverted front and rear dampers
Last edited by alan101; 18 January 2014 at 10:20 PM.
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Mine doesn't seem any lower but it's definitely firmer than my old 04 WRX saloon, like I said before Impreza's don't respond well to being lowered too much and you have to maintain the difference between front and rear in ride height and spring rate.
I have very limited knowledge on the dynamics of suspension set up, but I do know how I like my car to handle, I have gleaned what little knowledge I have off here and followed other peoples settings with a bit of a twist of my own until I found something I was happy with, my next mod will be 22mm rear anti roll bar followed by some more caster on the front.
I think you may be just feeling the harshness of coilovers on the bumpy uk roads.
I'd go back to the place that did the geo and get them to check all is well.
I have very limited knowledge on the dynamics of suspension set up, but I do know how I like my car to handle, I have gleaned what little knowledge I have off here and followed other peoples settings with a bit of a twist of my own until I found something I was happy with, my next mod will be 22mm rear anti roll bar followed by some more caster on the front.
I think you may be just feeling the harshness of coilovers on the bumpy uk roads.
I'd go back to the place that did the geo and get them to check all is well.
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think you right with bumpy a and b roads don't have a decant road for miles lol fancy doing the caster on mine the white line kit but my arb is out of stock and will be with me 2-3 weeks I went for the 24mm and heavy duty mounts
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There's your problem. Totally different grip characteristics from both tyres. Get a matching set with equal levels of tread and then look at your suspension/geometry settings if you still have issues, which I doubt you will.
At present, it sounds like your Toyo's are gripping better than the Pirelli's on the front, which is causing understeer like you say.
Personally, i'd recommend some Good Year F1 Asymmetrics. Transformed my car.
At present, it sounds like your Toyo's are gripping better than the Pirelli's on the front, which is causing understeer like you say.
Personally, i'd recommend some Good Year F1 Asymmetrics. Transformed my car.
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