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We all know wrx's are **** for mpg compared to n/a's....why is this
Now before you start....I've had fast'ish turbo cars before ie 9000 Aero (225hp standard), T5 again, 225, MR2 240ish, all did decent mpg if driving "normal" and returned about 25-30 to a gal, if you opened them up, then you'd be in the early 20s. But what causes the wrx's to be greedy from the word go compared to them (well from I've found), is it the way the ecu's are mapped from the factory....what exactly is it because the Aero and T5 are bigger and heavier, ok they're (wrx's) awd but surely that cant be what causes it in itself, or is it
Now before you start....I've had fast'ish turbo cars before ie 9000 Aero (225hp standard), T5 again, 225, MR2 240ish, all did decent mpg if driving "normal" and returned about 25-30 to a gal, if you opened them up, then you'd be in the early 20s. But what causes the wrx's to be greedy from the word go compared to them (well from I've found), is it the way the ecu's are mapped from the factory....what exactly is it because the Aero and T5 are bigger and heavier, ok they're (wrx's) awd but surely that cant be what causes it in itself, or is it
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You must be boosting it all the time, takes a bit of getting used to if you want good MPG, I average 28mpg going steady and 33+ on a motorway run.
Don't get me wrong though I can get 18mpg if I try but I mostly pootle and as above 25/28 is normal over a tank full, if your consistently getting low 20's and it bothers you, then you need to change your driving style, a boost gauge really helps.
Don't get me wrong though I can get 18mpg if I try but I mostly pootle and as above 25/28 is normal over a tank full, if your consistently getting low 20's and it bothers you, then you need to change your driving style, a boost gauge really helps.
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You must be boosting it all the time, takes a bit of getting used to if you want good MPG, I average 28mpg going steady and 33+ on a motorway run.
Don't get me wrong though I can get 18mpg if I try but I mostly pootle and as above 25/28 is normal over a tank full, if your consistently getting low 20's and it bothers you, then you need to change your driving style, a boost gauge really helps.
Don't get me wrong though I can get 18mpg if I try but I mostly pootle and as above 25/28 is normal over a tank full, if your consistently getting low 20's and it bothers you, then you need to change your driving style, a boost gauge really helps.
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I dont find the newage cars that bad, I can get a good 30+ on a motorway run in my blob jdm which isnt far away from other ten year old petrol cars, but can drain the tank in twenty minutes if required
My old Type R v4 was brutual though, barely managed 20+ on a motorway mollycoddling it...
My old Type R v4 was brutual though, barely managed 20+ on a motorway mollycoddling it...
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You must be boosting it all the time, takes a bit of getting used to if you want good MPG, I average 28mpg going steady and 33+ on a motorway run.
Don't get me wrong though I can get 18mpg if I try but I mostly pootle and as above 25/28 is normal over a tank full, if your consistently getting low 20's and it bothers you, then you need to change your driving style, a boost gauge really helps.
Don't get me wrong though I can get 18mpg if I try but I mostly pootle and as above 25/28 is normal over a tank full, if your consistently getting low 20's and it bothers you, then you need to change your driving style, a boost gauge really helps.
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I'm getting 5/l, which is 22-23mpg.
The reason for the apparent thirstiness is efficiency, or rather lack of it.
Firstly, I say 'apparent' because the engine doesn't have design faults etc. that mean it has to use more fuel to run than any other 2.0l engine.
The issue is that to get the car to perform to its spec then engine has to be used far more than the others you've mentioned.
All engines have to propel the car, which involves mainly pulling the weight, overcoming road friction and air resistence. All the power gets sent to two wheels, losing some due to the laws of physics and mechanics along the way, so-called transmission losses.
In a Subaru power is required to all four, so the engine has to overcome more transmission losses than the others and it does this of course by working harder, enabled in a number of ways, such as increased boost.
And a harder working engine means more fuel per second, and hence more fuel per mile etc. etc.
The reason for the apparent thirstiness is efficiency, or rather lack of it.
Firstly, I say 'apparent' because the engine doesn't have design faults etc. that mean it has to use more fuel to run than any other 2.0l engine.
The issue is that to get the car to perform to its spec then engine has to be used far more than the others you've mentioned.
All engines have to propel the car, which involves mainly pulling the weight, overcoming road friction and air resistence. All the power gets sent to two wheels, losing some due to the laws of physics and mechanics along the way, so-called transmission losses.
In a Subaru power is required to all four, so the engine has to overcome more transmission losses than the others and it does this of course by working harder, enabled in a number of ways, such as increased boost.
And a harder working engine means more fuel per second, and hence more fuel per mile etc. etc.
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Dont have a subaru if you are worried about fuel consumption! As i have said numerous times before i get 100-125miles to a full tank, Id get a polo bluemtion if i was worried about fuel lol
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It seems the older one's are the worst and there's nothing you can do about it then apart from regular servicing ect, being careful and choosing the journeys. Yes I know you have sub turbo when mpg's a concern, but it'd still be helpful to get decentish mpg
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[QUOTE=JGlanzaV;11216429]Dont have a subaru if you are worried about fuel consumption! As i have said numerous times before i get 100-125miles to a full tank,
Wow lol that's not many that's half what I get, is your take half the size or your injectors tripple the size
Wow lol that's not many that's half what I get, is your take half the size or your injectors tripple the size
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I'm a firm believer that you use as much fuel as your right foot allows, I managed East London to Lake Windermere on £55 albeit off boost. Hooning is going to cost you in our motors but if you want to get a decent mpg you can.
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Even Sub must have realised they'd better redesign the engines due to people tightening their belts or they'd lose sales, hence the newer ones being better
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Some do or they (Sub) wouldn't have made new ones a bit more fuel efficient....some people still want to be able to drive them but not to just so greedy.....that's my tuppence worth
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As the above, but would add, if you dont want to hoon it, why have a scooby? defeats the entire object of having a 4wd 2.0 turbo car...
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