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Old 03 July 2010, 07:52 PM   #1  
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Angry car tax hike !!

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just thought id browse the dvla web site..
im still in shock i have a 2004 sti was 118.00 for 6 months duty.
ok i thought..when i go to tax it again..134.00 for 6 months wtf!!!$&
fu5king day light robbery...the roads are pot holed...wheres the money goinghow can they 16.00 pounds increase!!
not a happy chappy
your thoughts on this pls
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Old 03 July 2010, 07:54 PM   #2  
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Your a motorist, bend over and take it like a good boy

Seriously, cars are easy targets and no ones going to give up theirs. Hence why my new 1 is a derv, 155 a year tax
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Old 03 July 2010, 07:55 PM   #3  
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Heh, even worse is the new act they brought in in April, which is every newly registered car has to pay 2 years tax upon registration... for my cs400 that was nearly a grand! absolute joke, but there's nothing we can do about it. Don't know about you, but I need my car to get to work etc, and with petrol going up too, getting more and more costly.
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Old 03 July 2010, 07:57 PM   #4  
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hi
everyone
just thought id browse the dvla web site..
im still in shock i have a 2004 sti was 118.00 for 6 months duty.
ok i thought..when i go to tax it again..134.00 for 6 months wtf!!!$&
fu5king day light robbery...the roads are pot holed...wheres the money goinghow can they 16.00 pounds increase!!
not a happy chappy
your thoughts on this pls
yep thats what mine was 2001 bugeye
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Old 03 July 2010, 08:15 PM   #5  
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count yourself lucky i paid 400 for my road tax
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Old 03 July 2010, 08:52 PM   #6  
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My Civic Diesel costs me 110 a year ..... and it has more torque than most Scoobies

The futures bright, the future smells of diesel!
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Old 03 July 2010, 09:05 PM   #7  
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Takes the **** doesnt it, keeps going up and up!!!

What i dont get is, i taxed my 406 hdi thurs, 112 or sumert for 6 months but then if the cars was a 51 plate (mines a X reg) then it would 68 ITS THE SAME FOOKIN ENGINE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Old 03 July 2010, 09:20 PM   #8  
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The futures bright, the future smells of diesel!
Does it, i dont know, im not behind one long enough

(and not because the diesel has pulled away LOL)
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Old 03 July 2010, 09:21 PM   #9  
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Does it, i dont know, im not behind one long enough
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Old 03 July 2010, 09:27 PM   #10  
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i cant believe when i taxed mine. its a flipping joke
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Old 03 July 2010, 09:29 PM   #11  
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Just re-newed the RB's tax 435.....ouch, but worth every penny whenever I press the loud peddle, lol
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Old 03 July 2010, 09:32 PM   #12  
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buy a new fiesta thats what im buying the wife 20 pounds a year
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Old 03 July 2010, 09:32 PM   #13  
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Thank goodness the government who brought in the tax bands is gone.
The fact that they sold it to us as a green tax makes it impossible to scrap now.

110 for a diesel Civic to tax? My neighbour has a 116D which is far superior to a Civic and its 35 per year tax. RWD for a start....then there's the interior quality...Oh and before the BMW she had a Civic, which Honda took back due to "issues".
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Old 03 July 2010, 09:34 PM   #14  
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i wish 425 road tax 375 insurance roll on september
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Old 03 July 2010, 09:36 PM   #15  
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It's a joke a 600cc bike pays 50 a year. At least my gas guzzler can transport five people at once...

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Old 03 July 2010, 09:48 PM   #16  
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Last time I looked.... fuel was around 70 a tank full, makes the VEL look insignificant IMHO.

I spend 700 on insurance, and around 1700 a year on fuel alone.

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P.S. Man-up you whinny wimp...
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Old 03 July 2010, 09:56 PM   #17  
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My Civic Diesel costs me 110 a year ..... and it has more torque than most Scoobies

The futures bright, the future smells of diesel!

You should have waited for the Civic Hybrid later this year.

35 to tax, same mpg, peak torque just above tickover and doesn't sound like farm machinery.
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i had leaflets through today tempting me to buy a honda **** that lol
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Old 03 July 2010, 10:11 PM   #19  
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My Civic Diesel costs me 110 a year ..... and it has more torque than most Scoobies

The futures bright, the future smells of diesel!


And all of your torque arrives in a lump and you need to change gear at around 4,500rpm if not sooner.

And as already mentioned it sounds like a cement mixer from the outside.

I am actually quite happy as the car tax on my Spec C is going down from 435 per annum to around 220 due to the recent alignment of the manufacture date instead of import date.
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Old 03 July 2010, 10:29 PM   #20  
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Just paid 435 for 12 months.........Happy days!!!
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Old 03 July 2010, 10:43 PM   #21  
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hi
everyone
just thought id browse the dvla web site..
im still in shock i have a 2004 sti was 118.00 for 6 months duty.
ok i thought..when i go to tax it again..134.00 for 6 months wtf!!!$&
fu5king day light robbery...the roads are pot holed...wheres the money goinghow can they 16.00 pounds increase!!
not a happy chappy
your thoughts on this pls
fuel 12000 a year 3200
VEL & INS 800
Tyres 400
Servicing wear n tear brakes etc 500

go faster bits this year map 550 + e bay bits 550

Hmmmmm 16 at the end of the day you cant take it with you and if you live to 70 + and you need to go to a care home and you have savings that will cost you 900 a week but if you have no saving goverment will pick up the tab. Payback, spend it all on fun stuff . BTW was this a wind up 16 works out at under 5p a day a tank of fuel has gone more than 16 in the last year

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Old 04 July 2010, 09:45 AM   #22  
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Just paid 245 for the year on my WRX300.
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Old 04 July 2010, 12:57 PM   #23  
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Whats this i heard about tax on high band post 06 cars going up to 800
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Old 04 July 2010, 01:20 PM   #24  
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I think they make the rules up as they go along !!!!!!!
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Old 04 July 2010, 01:49 PM   #25  
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My Civic Diesel costs me 110 a year ..... and it has more torque than most Scoobies

The futures bright, the future smells of diesel!
So does a waterwheel! You wouldn't get very far try to pedal it down the high street though.

I am quite impressed with PD or common rail diesels, I have to admit.

I reckon my P1 has a power band from around 4K rpm to 7.5-8K RPM. Peak power is apparently 6.5K. My Skoda VRS has a power band from say 2K rpm to 4K rpm with the peak somewhere around 3.75K. The diesel's power range is only narrow in absolute terms. I could decat the P1 and remap to spool the turbo earlier but then I could do similar with the Skoda.

What impresses me about modern diesels is that your can go from quietly cruising to high power just by flexing your right foot. A significant portion of peak power is available all the time, should you need it.

In theory the same is true of modern petrol turbos. But the game seems to have moved on past Subaru for the time being. Where are their direct injection petrol engines to rival VW, Mazda, Mitsubishi etc?

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In theory the same is true of modern petrol turbos. But the game seems to have moved on past Subaru for the time being. Where are their direct injection petrol engines to rival VW, Mazda, Mitsubishi etc?

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Have you ever driven an Impreza with a twin scroll turbocharger?
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Have you ever driven an Impreza with a twin scroll turbocharger?
It'll still get humped on emissions (and therefore road tax) and fuel economy.
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It'll still get humped on emissions (and therefore road tax) and fuel economy.
Well my Spec C has gone down to 230 ish (still waiting for renewal document), it is certainly a lot better than my previous Impreza's (Hawkeye WRX and an S202).

I would say that due to the nature of how the boost is developed on a twin scroll engine that they do not need to be driven as hard in order to get even better performance than an equivalent single scroll engine.

I mean nobody buys an Impreza for the fuel economy but I was quite pleased that I could develop better and more useable power and get more MPG.

I know that direct injection engines do give lower emission levels but Subaru have not yet brought this technology into their engines and that is why the Mitsubishi Evo is probably in a lower banding than my car, but has anyone bought their Impreza based upon it's tax banding?
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