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Old Oct 22, 2009 | 11:07 AM
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Any body tried this stuff by millers. Ment to be enough for 10 fill ups and its under 10 quid a bottle. So £1 a tank. Hell of a bargain if its any good.

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Old Oct 22, 2009 | 11:16 AM
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I was using the Diesel Version in my Mondeo ST TDCI (now sold), and can vouch for this particular product. Really does make a difference in the diesels so I would imagine the petrol version would be as good.

Worth noting that you would need to run it for 2 or 3 tanks to actually feel the difference.
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Old Oct 22, 2009 | 06:08 PM
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Noticed it says adds up to 2 octane numbers, I don't think this is the same as 2 RON. Infact I'm sure its not.
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Old Oct 22, 2009 | 10:11 PM
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I use the ordinary stuff as insurance, the problem with that product will be accurately measuring such small quantities.... like the new fangled detergents at home.

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Old Oct 23, 2009 | 03:23 PM
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Does the car need to be mapped for Octane Booster?

Will it have any benefits to a car mapped to V-Power?

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Old Oct 23, 2009 | 07:29 PM
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Improving the RON value with an additive will allow the ecu to dial in more ignition advance.
Mine loves the stuff, once the ambient air temp. drops to around 10 degrees it's utterly ballistic.

Or just good insurance to avoid problems.....

IMHO

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P.S. No mapping required.
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Old Oct 23, 2009 | 07:53 PM
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sounds good.......................
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Old Oct 23, 2009 | 08:01 PM
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Originally Posted by dunx
Improving the RON value with an additive will allow the ecu to dial in more ignition advance.
Mine loves the stuff, once the ambient air temp. drops to around 10 degrees it's utterly ballistic.

Or just good insurance to avoid problems.....

IMHO

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P.S. No mapping required.
Cheers dunx.

Any particular brand?

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Old Oct 23, 2009 | 10:54 PM
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I get Millers CVL-turbo, it SHOULD be three bottles to a full tank

But that adds four points, ( to 102 RON ! ), so I get away with one bottle for a 1.3 RON improvement, in V-Power.

Always have one in the boot just in case they are out of SUL if I go for run out.

HTH

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P.S. I add two bottles for track use as extra det. protection....
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Old Oct 24, 2009 | 08:57 AM
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Nice one, as I'm cat-less the CVL should do me too.

Not running as big mods as you YET, so I will see if there is a difference.

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Old Oct 25, 2009 | 05:04 PM
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Originally Posted by timmy2take
Noticed it says adds up to 2 octane numbers, I don't think this is the same as 2 RON. Infact I'm sure its not.
Yes, 2 octane numbers is 2 RON 2 octane points is 0.2 RON
I find it difficult to believe it could add "up to" 2 octane at a fuel/additive ratio of 1000:1 I'll give it a go, though. I normally only use booster for a margin of safety when using the car hard.

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Old Oct 25, 2009 | 09:49 PM
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Where do you guys get yours from?

And, how much a bottle?

I order 10 at a time and get it for ~£4 ea from AS Performance

Group Buy?

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which magazine recently tested most octane boosters including millers and they didnt get any find any increase in performance at all on any of them!, but i always noticed a difference using them maybe my imagination? lol
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Old Oct 26, 2009 | 12:29 PM
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Originally Posted by bunsofsteeeel
which magazine recently tested most octane boosters including millers and they didnt get any find any increase in performance at all on any of them!, but i always noticed a difference using them maybe my imagination? lol
I would say that most people on here don't use O/B for increased performance, but as a safety precaution against det.

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Old Oct 26, 2009 | 12:36 PM
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Originally Posted by bonesetter
Where do you guys get yours from?

And, how much a bottle?

I order 10 at a time and get it for ~£4 ea from AS Performance

Group Buy?
Let's clarify - The OP is talking about the new Millers Ecomax, not any of their existing additves.

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Originally Posted by JohnD
Let's clarity - The OP is talking about the new Millers Ecomax, not any of their existing additves.

JohnD
Ooops Thanks for pointing that out

Here's a review on the stuff
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Old Oct 26, 2009 | 04:40 PM
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Just mix in Methanol at a 5%-10% mix ratio per tank so on average it's basically a gallon per fill up.

Go to the fuel station, stick your gallon of Methanol in and then fill up with V-Power or Tesco 99RON. On a bog standard unmapped car it will give you full std mapped timing all the way gaining you several bhp increase and lots of torque with absolutely no chance of det.

On modified cars you could be looking at increases of 30-40bhp if mapped for 10% Methanol. Easiest way to permanently run a methanol mix is to carry a gallon of Methanol in the boot all the time or if on a long journey a couple of jerry cans if need be, and even if you couldn't find a 99RON fuel stop Methanol will make sure 95RON never ever causes you an issue.

BTW...Methanol is much cheaper than petrol and you can purchase any quantity you like i.e. 1000ltr IBC container for £500 or less so 50ppl. That's cheap!! Average your savings over a year's worth of fuel and you'll save about £220 a year off your normal yearly petrol bill and your scoob will go like stink. Add up how much it will cost you in Octane Booster on top of your yearly fuel bill and methanol makes a lot of sense not to mention its environmentally firendly. Don't know what it tastes like though

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Old Oct 26, 2009 | 04:49 PM
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What are you hoping to achieve? Are you doing this before a remap?

Most use NF Octane Booster or Methonal if storage/handling isn't a problem.
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Old Oct 26, 2009 | 04:57 PM
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sorry for going off topic would you have to change fuel lines etc for using methanol and can you use it everytime you need to fillup and where can you get it?
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Old Oct 26, 2009 | 05:02 PM
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Normal fuel lines will be fine as it's just a small part mix.

If you were using pure methanol or Ethanol (E85) to run your car you might need to change some bits as Methanol/Ethanol tends to absorb water from the air and can be corrosive.

You can buy it from eBay and there are plenty of other sources online.
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Old Oct 26, 2009 | 05:13 PM
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Thanks for the info
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Old Oct 26, 2009 | 05:26 PM
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so for normal imports unmapped i.e still mapped for 100 ron fuel

you can just use some methanol with v power to get it up to 100 ron?

ive never really trusted octane boosters, to do the job.. any proof?
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Old Oct 28, 2009 | 12:47 PM
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Thieving Halfords are charging £12.99 for the Ecomax!

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Old Oct 28, 2009 | 01:32 PM
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typical halford there only good for go fast stripes lol
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Old Oct 28, 2009 | 02:02 PM
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off topic again sorry
But on ebay methanol is advertised as virgin grade biodiesel?. is this the stuff to go for?
or should you buy from a race fuel site. confused.
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Old Oct 28, 2009 | 05:29 PM
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Methanol is used in the production of Biodiesel. So long as it is pure 99.85% min Virgin Methanol everything should be OK.

eBay isn't a bad source, you should be able to get hold of 25Lt containers minimum, 250ltr contaners works out a reasonable price. If you don't want to buy off eBay just do a search in your usual search engine under Methanol Suppliers UK and it should come up with loads. All a race fuel site will do is sell you the same amounts of exactly the same stuff for double the price.
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Whats everyone paying for Millers CVL Turbo (500ml)?

I was offered it for £65 delivered for 10 - anywhere cheaper?
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Old Oct 28, 2009 | 07:59 PM
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i dont see the need for this stuff any more? you can get v power or tesco super 99.
why would you want to go over that in a road car?
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anyone used this one?

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Old Oct 30, 2009 | 10:04 AM
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Be careful if using methanol without mapping.

Methanol is oxygen rich and could possibly make the engine run lean if not mapped.
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