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Old 28 September 2007, 07:12 PM
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Default Type-R with DCCD in rain = Dangerous

Last night on my way home i was accelerating to change lane and over take a car, i was in 4th and as i hit boost the back end started to come out
Proper scared me, as i was not even messing about or driving hard
I soon wound the DCCD forward a few notches
Old 28 September 2007, 07:18 PM
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Type-R's sound like fun, may have to check one out in the future!

I sold my STi to a mate a couple of weeks ago, motoring around in his tuned up E30 325i Sport and it's a bit crazy in the rain.

Was leaving the work car park, turning left heading up to join the road, unintentionally on purpose power slided round and joined the queue of car's at the lights - had a big grin for ages
Old 28 September 2007, 08:22 PM
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I don't feel safe in my car in the wet after some scary aquaplaning moments. On brand new tyres I have fewer worries in the wet but otherwise I take it very easy.
Old 28 September 2007, 08:27 PM
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I'm always very easy in the wet. Just to easy for the boost to take you by surprise at the wrong time and you find yourself going in a different direction to the one you intended.
Old 29 September 2007, 12:24 AM
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Wait untill you up the power beyond 400.

Mine is constantly trying to swap ends on me, even in a straight line.

Have a look here - https://www.scoobynet.com/drivetrain...riend-foe.html
Old 29 September 2007, 12:40 AM
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DCCD is fantastic, in the wet or in the dry.

It transforms the Impreza, in my opinion, but it also puts you directly in control of one of the mechanisms which makes it such a confidence inspiring tool. If you don't understand what difference it makes compared to a standard model, and alter your driving accordingly, you could well find the car doing something you don't expect it to.
Old 29 September 2007, 01:12 AM
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I find the DCCD good in the dry with it wound open
When you give it stick going round a bend you can feel the back end steping out ever so slightly, which helps the car not understeer, altho in the wet its usless imo
Old 29 September 2007, 09:26 AM
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I never had a problem with my DCCD-A. Don't get me wrong in manual and set to rear the back would step out quite happily but in automatic mode it was spot on in all weather conditions.
Old 29 September 2007, 10:07 AM
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Could we change the thread title to

''Type-R with DCCD in rain + a driver who doesn't understand what it does and adjust it accordingly = Dangerous ''
Old 29 September 2007, 10:09 AM
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What tyres are you running?

May be partly down to that factor as well.
Old 29 September 2007, 01:15 PM
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I have no DCCD, but in the wet the wheels spin enough on boost to change lanes unintentionally. Nearly side swiped a van not long ago
Old 29 September 2007, 01:20 PM
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I feel 100 times safer in a RWD car when the rear end steps out then a 4WD with loss of traction!.. I hate it when I get 4wheel drift, completely and utter lack of control! :| Just got to let the car sort its self out, very disconcerting!

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Old 29 September 2007, 02:03 PM
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Things could be worst you could have a rwd car with a turbo, my god how hard are they to keep on the staight and narrow, i owned a S13 200sx had many scary moments it that thing!
Old 29 September 2007, 05:26 PM
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at least with rwd you hav a a bit of control,with the typeR the back end kicks like a rwd but the front then grips throwing you at whatever is at the side of the road if you have even the slightest steering on,in the wet im always extra careful with mine ad ive had 2 very lucky escapes
Old 29 September 2007, 06:20 PM
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I dont think dccd = a crash in the rain! maybe a different style than a non dccd car? i dont have many scary moments in mine classic ra with 420hp its my daily car so gets all weather conditions on toyo t1r tyres,i normally drive in the 1st orange in the rain which is fine, scrables around for traction in the lower gears and can at times make low speed understeer but my rear diff is slightly locked so wont help lol! maybe some people with this over steer problem should change there lead boot for a plimsole
Old 29 September 2007, 06:42 PM
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Well i know i had my s13 for 10months and sold it mainly as the engine was beging to develop a fault also the whole experiance of rwd and turbo wasnt a great one, on the 200sx its like an on-off power delivery and nearly got caught out big time 2/3 occasions im glad i sold it otherwise it would of been stacked somewhere.

I too drive with first orange triangle on in the wet and had no 'moments' so far but i do try to drive more senisibaly in the rain anyway.
Old 29 September 2007, 07:31 PM
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all this talk of the subaru handling + trickery DCCD in the rain im not sure about sti subarus but the car iv got is easy to drive in the rain wrx bugeye 300+ bhp
although the front is prone to understeer but all in all its a doddle to drive even in a spirited mode .

now if your talking scarey try a e30 bmw now that was as sly as a box of monkeys and it had you paranoid and taught me a hard lesson once or twice .
rain rain = wetter the better .
Old 29 September 2007, 07:43 PM
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Originally Posted by mozzaITA
Things could be worst you could have a rwd car with a turbo, my god how hard are they to keep on the staight and narrow, i owned a S13 200sx had many scary moments it that thing!
Yes its easier to lose traction in an RWD car as there is only one pair of driving wheels to put the power down with BUT the front wheels keep traction and you can still steer... With a permenant 4WD car if you lose traction due to wheel spin your screwed until you back off the power, ridding out a 4 wheel slide isnt particularly a good idea where as ridding out a RWD slide is very possible
Old 29 September 2007, 10:00 PM
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you should buy a 2wd cosworth.........
Old 29 September 2007, 10:19 PM
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Originally Posted by automodellistagt
you should buy a 2wd cosworth.........
i wouldnt advise that ~# might be to much to handle
Old 29 September 2007, 11:20 PM
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i sold my skyline because it was fookin deadly in the wet...these cars are ***** cats compared to that, dccd or no dccd. get the geometry setup and good tyres on it ! ..you lot are spoiled !
Old 30 September 2007, 04:35 PM
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My tyres arnt the best i have ever had, there are a set of Falkens on atm
I was having a play in the rain again, and with the diff wound up a cupple of notches its fine.

@Gutman pig, go for it! lol


@ Growler Grrr, the Dccd is great in the dry, it helps loads with the understeer, just give it beans and rather thn the car trying to drag you across in a streight line, the back end steps out and helps you around
Old 30 September 2007, 04:56 PM
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Originally Posted by automodellistagt
you should buy a 2wd cosworth.........


nah no thanks that was the last sierra cossie i was in (not mine)
Old 30 September 2007, 05:00 PM
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Originally Posted by Gutmann pug
Could we change the thread title to

''Type-R with DCCD in rain + a driver who doesn't understand what it does and adjust it accordingly = Dangerous ''
Spot on, if you know how it works and have practiced what to do with it, it's a superb bit of kit. It's nothing like driving a 'standard' Impreza with 60f:40r split and viscous coupled centre, completely different car.
Old 30 September 2007, 07:27 PM
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66:34 split isn't it? One of the reasons I sold my typeR sti5 and bought a P1, everyday car driving.
Old 30 September 2007, 07:50 PM
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std impreza is 60-40 i believe and dccd ones are 67-33 or 66-34??
Old 30 September 2007, 08:26 PM
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I thought standard Impreza was 50:50 and the typeRs were 66:34.
Old 30 September 2007, 08:42 PM
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hmmm i not so sure anymore...... anybody clarify splits?
Old 30 September 2007, 09:03 PM
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Standard is defo 50:50...
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really - wow the type r is a totally different car then!!

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