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Old 11 August 2006, 10:04 AM
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Does anyone know how much it is to have air-con retro fitted to a classic impreza ? either at a Subaru Dealer or by an independant garage etc.
Thankyou in anticipation...
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Old 11 August 2006, 01:21 PM
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Classics were always done at the dealership whe a/c was ordered as an optional extra. From memory, I think I paid £1500 fitted.

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Old 11 August 2006, 01:24 PM
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typical cost at dealers is £995...
you can get it done cheaper if you source the parts yourself.
Old 11 August 2006, 01:46 PM
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cost me nothing to fit mine, and about 200 quid for all the bits needed, and 40 quid for re-gassing

It is actually very easy to fit
Old 11 August 2006, 01:50 PM
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Originally Posted by *Sonic*
cost me nothing to fit mine, and about 200 quid for all the bits needed, and 40 quid for re-gassing

It is actually very easy to fit
Please tell!
Old 11 August 2006, 10:16 PM
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(posting as *Sonic*)

I do have a list of all the parts and fitting instructions somewhere, I fit it all myself, hardest part was getting all the bolts from the dealers cos they were never in stock LOL

I have a picture too somewhere of all the bits laid out on the carpet

Ill see if I can find that too

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Old 11 August 2006, 10:54 PM
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Most breakers can put tpgether a kit of parts for you... I bought one from HDC Subaru a few years back for a Legacy for ~ £200, got an incomplete one from ebay ~ £45!

Most of it not too tricky to fit - wiring should all be in place already...

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what about the switch for the cabin?
Old 12 August 2006, 12:51 AM
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(posting as Sonic again ) I got the switch from the dealers even got the refrigerant sticker from the dealers too

all the wiring is in place, you need the relays tho, if you do a search under my name *Sonic* from over a year ago, there should be a thread about it with parts somewhere

Ahh here it is


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what you should have are the following components

1. Compressor (big heavy pump thing, that sits next to the alternator, along with pulley and tensioner)
2. Compressor Bracket (you need to remove the alternator to fit this
3. Exchanger /Drier , this sits on the passenger side inner wing against the strut (looks like a silver cannister)
4. Condensor, sits in front of the radiator
5. Heater Matrix as pictured above
6. 2 small diamter pieces of pipework (one long one short, short one goes from drier to matrix, long one goes from drier to condensor)
7. 2 large diameter pieces of pipework (the longer one goes from the compressoor to the matrix, the shorter one from the compressor to the condenser)
8. Air Con Belt
9. All necessary bolts, washers, rubber grommits etc
10. the dashboard switch
11. 4 Relays that go in the main fusebox (might only be 3)
12. 2nd Fan to go on the rad

once fitted take it along to your local air con specialist, and they will re-gas it for you, takes about an hour, as they have to vacuum the system first, then fill with gas and oil, then add the dye

Gas is R134a and is approx 0.55-0.65kg quantity, Compressor Oil (should say on the compressor) volume is 150cm3

Hope this all helps

Steve
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I know this is a massive thread-resurrection, from 8 years ago, but when I was searching for how to do this, this was the post that had the most useful information and that I kept finding in the search results, so I thought I'd add some extra info to it.



I've just finished retrofitting AC to my MY97 Turbo 2000. I fitted all the components that were listed earlier in this thread which appeared to be everything you need, and got my local garage to vacuum and gas it yesterday. All looked good, and it held pressure fine (to my surprise), but the AC compressor clutch simply wouldn't engage.

When pressing the AC button, the secondary fan would kick in (as expected) and the relays in the fuse box all clicked, but the AC clutch did nothing. I checked the pressure switch and the thermo sensor and all these checked out OK. The AC clutch just wasn't getting the 12v signal sent to it. If I manually jumped it to 12v, the clutch would engage, so the compress works, it just simply wasn't getting the signal.

So... after spending a large amount of today stripping bits of the car, studying wiring diagrams and trying to trace wires, I've finally solved it. Turns out there is another component missing from the list that's not at all obvious when removing or installing AC, as it isn't anywhere near the rest of the AC bits. It's an extra relay (the AC Cut Relay) in the engine bay, on the offside bulkhead in the corner by the brake servo. It has a blue connector and is not at all obvious unless you know (which I didn't!). It is controlled by the ECU to engage/disengage the compressor clutch and is labeled B16 on wiring diagrams and I believe the part number is 82501AA140.

Anyway - I just wanted to add this to the list of components needed, in the hope that it will help someone else in the future who tries to do this job.

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