Saxo VTS vs UK Turbo Impreza??
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Saxo VTS vs UK Turbo Impreza??
I was challenged on another forum, that a Saxo VTS could give me a 'good run for my money'.
The guy has a full exhuast system on his car at the min, don't think theres any other major mods at present. Yet he said by the summer (when he is hoping to have 160bhp) he will be able to sit with mine & the bf's UK Turbo Impreza with full stainless exh system, decat, induction kit, dump valve.
If you read the posts in the thread below there is about 4 pages of crap!
http://www.jon44w.co.uk/forum/viewth...=63894&page=17
What do you make of this...personally I dont think a 160bhp saxo would perform anywhere near the scooby and theres no room for comparison in the two cars! The fact he doesnt even have 160bhp in the saxo yet, but is making these claims already, is more the laughable matter!!
The guy has a full exhuast system on his car at the min, don't think theres any other major mods at present. Yet he said by the summer (when he is hoping to have 160bhp) he will be able to sit with mine & the bf's UK Turbo Impreza with full stainless exh system, decat, induction kit, dump valve.
If you read the posts in the thread below there is about 4 pages of crap!
http://www.jon44w.co.uk/forum/viewth...=63894&page=17
What do you make of this...personally I dont think a 160bhp saxo would perform anywhere near the scooby and theres no room for comparison in the two cars! The fact he doesnt even have 160bhp in the saxo yet, but is making these claims already, is more the laughable matter!!
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Just read that. well..
having owned a saxo.. yes i know!! anyway i only had a VTR. it was a quick little car. THe VTS is a lot quicker but i would say about as fast as a sport.
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having owned a saxo.. yes i know!! anyway i only had a VTR. it was a quick little car. THe VTS is a lot quicker but i would say about as fast as a sport.
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Originally Posted by stilover
too bored to even read it.
Some of the BULL****E!!.......
Originally Posted by some wanna be
in short bursts saxo vts could defo get up to 100 very quick were as vtec has more top end grunt
u can take alot of big cars down a B road vts on very good setup will nail them an thats not using 2 sides of the road either but come the day a vts whips a very healthy civic vtec hitin 160hp+ on a straight an a type r i would sell the type r on for defs crx 16vtec is the equivalient to a type r civic due to the weight cam'd an remapped vts will stand a chance tho
an putting my vts against my old glanza boost limiter removed and was std i would say vts would beat it to about 110mph but my glanza had a bigger topend due to no speedlimiter which i clipped 149mph before having to break for other private road users
u can take alot of big cars down a B road vts on very good setup will nail them an thats not using 2 sides of the road either but come the day a vts whips a very healthy civic vtec hitin 160hp+ on a straight an a type r i would sell the type r on for defs crx 16vtec is the equivalient to a type r civic due to the weight cam'd an remapped vts will stand a chance tho
an putting my vts against my old glanza boost limiter removed and was std i would say vts would beat it to about 110mph but my glanza had a bigger topend due to no speedlimiter which i clipped 149mph before having to break for other private road users
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PMSL @ that thread
A Saxo is a car that most of us real performance people would use to go to Tesco's with
Can't be bothered to respond tbh, so sick of idiots who ain't got a clue and spend thousands of pounds just so they can keep up with our standard cars
A Saxo is a car that most of us real performance people would use to go to Tesco's with
Can't be bothered to respond tbh, so sick of idiots who ain't got a clue and spend thousands of pounds just so they can keep up with our standard cars
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He's talking about beating cars at the 110 to 149mph mark....please, this isn't really driving...what about in the twisties etc.
I had a VTR before my Impreza...loved it to bits, nice bit of grunt, responsive steering, and you can chuck it about a bit, lots of fun, but an Impreza it ain't!!
I had a VTR before my Impreza...loved it to bits, nice bit of grunt, responsive steering, and you can chuck it about a bit, lots of fun, but an Impreza it ain't!!
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I like how he says he would compete up to 110mph. I have been known to corner at 110mph, so come the straight where will his $h!tty little french biscuit tin be
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Originally Posted by SCOS
PMSL @ that thread
A Saxo is a car that most of us real performance people would use to go to Tesco's with
Can't be bothered to respond tbh, so sick of idiots who ain't got a clue and spend thousands of pounds just so they can keep up with our standard cars
A Saxo is a car that most of us real performance people would use to go to Tesco's with
Can't be bothered to respond tbh, so sick of idiots who ain't got a clue and spend thousands of pounds just so they can keep up with our standard cars
Exactly...Ive got a vtr saxo which I use as a runabout aswell as having the scooby!
So much ****e being spouted on that thread it is unreal!
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Originally Posted by SCOS
PMSL @ that thread
A Saxo is a car that most of us real performance people would use to go to Tesco's with
Can't be bothered to respond tbh, so sick of idiots who ain't got a clue and spend thousands of pounds just so they can keep up with our standard cars
A Saxo is a car that most of us real performance people would use to go to Tesco's with
Can't be bothered to respond tbh, so sick of idiots who ain't got a clue and spend thousands of pounds just so they can keep up with our standard cars
And I use a Scooby to go shopping in so my real performance car doesn't get ruined.
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Originally Posted by Clare85
question is here, is a 160bhp saxo going to stand a chance at keeping up with the uk turbo scooby??
The dreaded power to weight will come into play!
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Originally Posted by scoobyboy1
I cant see a uk scooby with 208/215bhp absoloutly wasting it to be fair, It would be a good race, but dont expect to kick his ****.
The dreaded power to weight will come into play!
The dreaded power to weight will come into play!
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Agreed, a 160bhp lighter car with less transmission loss will stand a chance in a straight line, BUT from a stand still or round any sort of corner, the Saxo will be out performed again and again.
Just all this talk of Scooby slaying really pisses me off. I've had faster cars than my current Scoob, but I hate all this pub talk from little boys who think an exhaust and air filter makes them the fastest thing on the road.
They should also learn to drive.
Just all this talk of Scooby slaying really pisses me off. I've had faster cars than my current Scoob, but I hate all this pub talk from little boys who think an exhaust and air filter makes them the fastest thing on the road.
They should also learn to drive.
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Originally Posted by SCOS
They should also learn to drive.
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Originally Posted by Scooby-Doo
Not a very nice comment. Scooby owners spend thousands modifying their cars and then take on Porsche/Ferrari's so why is this any different ?
And I use a Scooby to go shopping in so my real performance car doesn't get ruined.
And I use a Scooby to go shopping in so my real performance car doesn't get ruined.
Was having a pop at these boy racer types who really don't understand what makes an all round performance car. People need to educate themselves before popping into Halfords for another big bore 4 .
Trying to keep up with a better, more expensive car is what modifying is all about, but you can't say a Saxo with loads of mods is in any way better than a fully developed 4x4 rally slag?
I find that in all car clubs, there are many people who give absolutely false bhp claims and claim they can keep up with the Starship Enterprise, when in fact, they ain't got a clue about what makes a very fast road car.
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hate break this to you all, my old vts was 133@wheels and i used to play with my mates 02 plate bug eye... wrx type uk or dummit like that...
and from say a 25mph rolling start i wud be still up close to 100mph
which considering the difference in cars it was a laff ..
i reckon a normal 220bhp ish scoob will struggle against a lightly modded saxo. saxo = made out of paper tissue and plastic - hance its light weight..
and from say a 25mph rolling start i wud be still up close to 100mph
which considering the difference in cars it was a laff ..
i reckon a normal 220bhp ish scoob will struggle against a lightly modded saxo. saxo = made out of paper tissue and plastic - hance its light weight..
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So an impreza carnt keep up with the starship enterprise
Dont underestimate citroens. like it says above tissue paper and sticky back plastic. I had an ax gt and that would surprise a lot of bigger cars. My favorite was the finance kids in there saxo vtrs
Dont underestimate citroens. like it says above tissue paper and sticky back plastic. I had an ax gt and that would surprise a lot of bigger cars. My favorite was the finance kids in there saxo vtrs
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Originally Posted by Clare85
i realise power to weight is an issue here, but would the mods ive listed in the first post of mine not add a few bhp to the std 218bhp?
I dont think you will have a problem against a 160bhp Saxo, all I was saying is that you wont waste him, But the lad in the Saxo has nothing to lose really, if he beats you, you wont hear the last of it, and if you beat him, at least he lost to a faster car with more power.
To be fair I would tell him to F**k off. and take it to a track or down Santa Pod in a safe environment.
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all issues ...... wait till he has 160bhp then book the track day of your choice.
Out of interest I watched several 172/182's realing in and passing scoobs at Bedford on Saturday. Does it mean they are quicker, no not really just might be better drivers.
Gary
all issues ...... wait till he has 160bhp then book the track day of your choice.
Out of interest I watched several 172/182's realing in and passing scoobs at Bedford on Saturday. Does it mean they are quicker, no not really just might be better drivers.
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Having owned a 106 GTi (VTS in disguise) a couple of years ago I could honestly say that they are rapid little beasts and would give a good race in the hands of a capable driver.
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Originally Posted by ewanrw
Having owned a 106 GTi (VTS in disguise) a couple of years ago I could honestly say that they are rapid little beasts and would give a good race in the hands of a capable driver.
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hate break this to you all, my old vts was 133@wheels and i used to play with my mates 02 plate bug eye... wrx type uk or dummit like that...
and from say a 25mph rolling start i wud be still up close to 100mph
which considering the difference in cars it was a laff ..
i reckon a normal 220bhp ish scoob will struggle against a lightly modded saxo. saxo = made out of paper tissue and plastic - hance its light weight..
and from say a 25mph rolling start i wud be still up close to 100mph
which considering the difference in cars it was a laff ..
i reckon a normal 220bhp ish scoob will struggle against a lightly modded saxo. saxo = made out of paper tissue and plastic - hance its light weight..
What mods did it have to make 133 atw?
Not suprising as a bugeye is probably only 200 atw and a damm site heavier than the saxo