Stef

Ooh, it must have worked 'cos some bloke called Mike has just challenged me at Santa Pod on Sunday!!!!
Where's me pills?????

Stef.

Stef

Does anybody know how to post a reply on the RS Owners BB?
Some guy was just asking what a Prodrive Performance Pack was, after his 283bhp Escort Cossie got stuffed by a PPP'd Impreza.
He signed it 'Hanging Head'!!!!!

Stef.

Diablo

Its easy, just open the message, scroll down and follow the instructions.

(Why not tell him its the "tuned for economy" special with power restrictor.

D.

Stef

I did all that, but three times now it's failed to post the reply!

Stef.

blubs

Thats what I like about those guys at the RS Owners Club. They enjoy a real test of your driving ability.

Diablo

Stef,

It probably took three goes 'cos the RS owners club site appears to automatically delete ANYTHING that shows the Scoob in a better light than the Cossie.

I'm surprised they didn't delete the original post!!!

The bloke in question has a 411 BHP Saphire, but then its probably only got about 100 lbs ft of torque........

Still, I suspect you'd get stuffed at Santa Pod. Gees, must be a real test of car and driver, though

D.

CAB

Why do these people feel the need to challange others to races at places like Santa Pod. I would like to go there, but more out of curiosity for my own cars performance rather than to race it against done up Cosworths driven by people.......no, I am not going to go down that road. Each to there own I guess.
The world would be boring if we were all the same. Long live the 400BHP Cossies with Thunderbird 2 bodykits

grief

I own an XR4X4, anybody want to make anything of it ? Come on, I'll take you all on !!! And I've got biggggg mates who'll come round, take a blow torch and a pair of pliers to your Scoobysport tail pipe....

Seriously, though, why rise to the bait ? If the RS BBS can't stomach any criticism of the cars, then why bother to aggravate them. If they're that interested, they'll search a few posts on this BBS and all will be revealed to them.

Would've been even better for a non Prodrive badged 5 door to do the business.

Ex XR4X4 owner (yes, really, so watch what you say ! )

Richard

I have an unbagded 5-dr with a PE phase 1 Scooby with SS backbox, janspeed centre section and twin dump front pipe. I'd be quite prepared to show them up in my humble 5dr.

DavidG

And to add insult to injury, do it with a week's shopping and a couple of big dogs (preferably pit bulls...) in the back.

steve McCulloch

I used to own an xr2, rs turbo and then escort cossie. I can assure you that theres a few pissed people in the RS Club, who are having a big cry cos they realise their cars are just too slow. (i.e most of my mates)

However, I must say that I got more driving enjoyment out of the Cossie, anyway thats in the past, its sold and I cant be bothered buying one just to have to uprate it again.

I dont think anyone should slag off the club - I used to be a member and theres a lot of serious people who dont rise to the challenge of a slagging match (my 1st two paragraphs excluded!)

Theres some fine examples out there and not everyone resorts to a bodykit, etc - most Subaru owners cant comment - as the first thing they do is put on bigger alloys, kevin exhaust, etc

By the way, theres a lot of cars faster than the scooby - My escort cossie would blow away my standard sti5 in any gear, at any speed (though modded heavily, just like the fuel consumption and the size of the bank overdraft)

The reaon I sold it you may ask is that I wanted a newer car - simple as that

I'm not trying to slag anyone off in this post

IanF

Cossie owner and a type R couldn't wait for Santa Pod and were both going for it at Slough last night.

The Cossie I believe is heavily modified, although the guy wouldn't tell me what he has had done.

It looked fairly even. I think the Type R owner is on here (P3 WRX) so perhaps he could comment.

Regards
IanF

In posting this I am not condoning racing on the public road, just merely commenting on what I saw.

chrisp

I to posted on the RS BBS and got a message from one of the RS guys thanking me for my posting and was glad to hear from a fellow petrolhead. My posting just tried to clear the air. He invited me to come to santa pod. These guys love their cars as much as we do. Look what happens on here when some posts about the evo 6 being better than a scooby.

I guess a lot of scooby owners have had RS's in the past and still have a soft spot for them .

Cheers

Chrisp

Diablo

Stef,

Just a bit tongue in cheek following your post regarding torque!

I'd have been very surprised if a turbo'd car with that power didn't have huge torque.

I'm sure Mike Rainbird's saphire is awesome.

(If you're reading this Mike R its all a bit of fun - or at least should be )

D.

Stef

Diablo.
I've been requested by the 'bloke in question' to tell you that his car actually has 419bhp and 401lb/ft @ 3500rpm.
Before his latest conversion it was 389bhp and at Bruntingthorpe he managed 172mph before running out of room. Over the same distance a Lotus Carlton managed 163mph and a Prodrive Impreza 141mph.
I guess it's safe to say his car's pretty quick!
Don't think I'll be running against him on Sunday, not that I'm scared or anything!
I'm gonna go just for the crack. Perhaps build some better bridges with these guys. Lets face it, the're so much fun to play with at track days!!

Stef.

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Mike Tuckwood

Can't we get the guy from Scotland with the 480bhp hill climbing Impreza to do the honours for us?

Firefox or John Stewart know who I mean.

Perhaps the club (SIDC) could fund his attendance to defend our honour?

Mike.

Craig H

I agree with Steve. Most are petrolheads like us - it's a v.small majority that posted all the crap.
Cossies were designed to blow everything away on circuits, Scoobs on rallies.
It's nigh on impossible to modify a Scoob as much as a Cossie.
But, if Steve goes for that 5k 360/360 upgrade, that should be a fair match for the 400+ Cossies.
Reliability will be interesting though.

iaindean

I heard the car now has 500bhp+ and spins in fourth if you carent careful with the (obviously expensive) clutch!

WOW!

9mpg tho' aint too good, but 0-60 in around 3 secs is!

firefox

Hi guys...

The formula is

BHP = TORQUE * RPM/5252 (I think)

The 480bhp Impreza is a bloody quick car... its power comes in from midway to redline... it is torquey!! And handles/stops like you wouldnt believe.... Thanks to full HKS race suspension..and 360mm AP brakes..(18" wheels required). It is still a 2litre..but upgraded internals..and high boost!

Although the turbo is one the way out (knackered).. and I'm/was discussing options with the owner...for a replacement unit.

Alot of the old cossies where built for straight line performance....some were 2.2 or 2.4 units....and running 500bhp.... although not for long until the engine blew....

The impreza isnt a straight line car... remeber..theres always someone with a quicker car out there... *bugger them*

J.

MarkCSC

We could ask Nightmare to take his Diablo and put a Scooby sticker on the back. I'm sure no body would notice!

Mark

steve McCulloch

Craig

You've got a good memory!

I'm waiting on Dave Morgans rolling road figures after having driven the 'beast'. I must say the Interpro conversion is the fasted car I've ever been in (no snide remarks here please) and the delivery was so smooth. Not sure about the Dumpvalve though - very loud!

I would say that the modest conversion is at least equal to 400hp on a cossie - probably more!

Anyway I've started to get miserable now talking about Cossie's - I miss my last car (starts crying....)

Steve

Craig H

Steve,
If/when you get it done, I think you'll have queues of us wanting to go out!

steve McCulloch

Craig

Get enough queues already!

Theres very few meets around Bristol, and down to Weston Super Mare - is too far away for me (where theres a few more meets), on North side of Bristol.

I also go to W Yorkshire often, few meets and low numbers.

May see you sometime


Regards

Steve

DAZ

steve get it done :-)

any figures yet on bhp torque

later daz

weve got a meet at derby its on the way to yorkshire well allmost :-)

Davy

NICE TO SEE THAT THERE ARE SOME SENSIBLE SCOOBY OWNERS ON HERE, THE RS BB SEEMS JUST TO ATTRACT IDIOTS AT THE MINUTE, I CURRENTLY OWN A 4X4 SAPP WITH 290 BHP, I DROVE A STANDARD SCOOBY THE OTHER WEEK AND WAS VERY IMPRESSED WITH IT, I ALSO THINK THAT ALL THIS TALK OF ROAD CARS RACING ON BENDY ROADS IS A TOUCHY SUBJECT, I MEAN ANY 4 WHEEL DRIVE CAR WITH POWER WILL STICK WELL TO THE ROAD THUS MEANING THE PERSON WITH LEAST REGARD FOR THEIR CAR AND THEMSELVES WILL ALWAYS WIN COSSIES AND SCOOBY BOTH GO FAR TO FAST TO RACE ON BENDY ROADS.
I HAVE DONE A FEW TRACK DAYS MYSELF AND THE LEVEL OF GRIP ON A TRACK AND THE SPEED YOU CAN CORNER ARE AMAZING SOMETHING YOU CANNOT DO ON THE ROAD, I WAS AT CROFT RACE TRACK LAST WEEK AND THERE WAS A VERY QUICK BLACK SCOOBY, ANYWAY ENOUGH OF THAT DEBATE I THINK YOUR WEBSITE LOOKS GREAT AND VERY WELL ORGANISED , REGARDS DAVE.

Anders

We have it on good authority that the type setter for Redline is a sad Cosworth owner!

He had a good chuckle stating we are the Subaru Impreza Hair-driers club!

Stef

Diablo.
Mike turned up in his '419bhp' Cossie, but to be honest I wasn't very impressed, considering the power. I think he had probs. It's a very nice example, but he only managed 13.4s or thereabouts. I managed 13.5s, so there wasn't much in it.
He did say he'd just fitted a paddle clutch though, he wasn't used to it and that's why he was slower! Unfortunately, his car died after a couple of runs. Don't know what the prob' was, but it looked like it may have been the clutch. I think a few of his comrades crashed and burned too! I actually think some of them have got too much power, they literally just can't get it onto the tarmac.

Dave.
Good to see another Cossie owner without tunnel vision!

Stef.



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Diablo

Stef,

Thanks for the info.

Mike seems like an OK guy, but this clutch thing sounds like another "excuse" to me. I would have thought a paddle type clutch better suited. I agree that power isn't everything.

Can I take it you were able to drive home in your humble scooby?

D.

Stef

D.
Absolutely. When it comes to reliability, a relatively unmodified Scoob' will always get you home afterwards, which is more than can be said for at least three Cossies at the Pod!
In fact, the more I take her on track days and these sprints, the looser and quicker she seems to get........I love her to bits (my car's not bad either! )

Stef.

Mike Rainbird

Dear Diablo et al,
At last I can reply myself! What Stef neglected to tell you was that I was going through the lights at 115 mph, so although it may have seemed close (as in his time of 13.5 against mine of 13.4), he was only doing 0-99 mph in 13.5s and I was doing 0-115 in 13.4! Obviously as you can see by this, it was purely a traction problem off the line that I was suffering from!

However, I would not wish to take anything away from Stef, as not only was he the SOLE Scooby owner to be brave enough to take part (out of five or six cars that turned up), he also beat fair and square, quite a few supposed "faster" cars. You will all have to come along on the 31st to see us in action again (and maybe take part if you're not all talk!). Especially to witness the launch of Stefs car off the line - it is like watching a plane being launched from a steam catapult! And as for Francis' three-door Cossie which did an 11.86s run at 114mph, now that is something else altogether - Oh to have the advantages of 4wd!

Anyway, as you know my diff gave up after only a few runs (the problem with doubling your car's power and torque output - I'd like to see any car that can survive that unscathed!). But I will be back next time, where you WILL get to see the car do a 12s run - and that's a promise! (Providing nothing goes bang again.....)

Hope to see some more of you there next time!
Best regards
Mike Rainbird
Norfolk RSOC Chairman