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Old 18 January 2019, 03:30 PM
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Default Impreza Type R

As the title suggests I'm looking to find some information about them. Been looking at importing a car for a while now was between an evo or impreza type r. One thing that's putting me off the type r is the engine are they as unreliable as what people say especially when mildly modified? Also what sort of power can be expected from a remap, exhaust etc would like something around 330 similar power to my brothers evo 6.

Sorry if this has been covered before but been searching online for weeks now with loads of contradicting statements from various sources.

The model in question would most likely be a v5 or v6 if that makes a difference. Thanks in advance.
Old 18 January 2019, 03:38 PM
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Well Evos can and are unreliable too, the Type R can and will be very reliable IF it’s been correctly mapped for your fuel you have. Get it fully checked for DET etc and it’ll treat you well, just common sense tbh lots of it. Gearbox in the V6 is strongest of the GC8s too, but as I’ve said, fueling check is essential buddy. Hope this helps a little.
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PS, 330 is the limits of the VF28/29, ok, folks may have seen more but it’ll be pushing the turbo hard.
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The youngest type R's are getting on for 20 years old.
They're better built and stronger than most (I suspect most modern 300 bhp 2 litre hot hatches won't last as long), but given their age you need to be careful about how they've been treated before expecting them to make big power.
If you're after big power I'd go for a newer JDM import, or budget for engine work.
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Fully agree. With the age as mine is gaskets start to go, pipes start to wear out. If you have a fixed budget go for a newer car. If it will be a daily imagine you will be replacing parts on regular basis. Same goes for evo.


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The youngest type R's are getting on for 20 years old.
They're better built and stronger than most (I suspect most modern 300 bhp 2 litre hot hatches won't last as long), but given their age you need to be careful about how they've been treated before expecting them to make big power.
If you're after big power I'd go for a newer JDM import, or budget for engine work.
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Car won't be used as a daily at all, it will be used only as a fair weather / summer car and being in Ireland it can be quite limited how often that kind of weather happens!
So basically it's the same story as with any older car things can an will go wrong / need fixing.
As for tuning them to around 330ish is it just an exhaust and remap to run on the kind of ron petrol available here No aftermarket ecu's needed ?
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I was chatting to a very respected tuner the other day and he told me that the strongest 5 speed gear boxes Subaru ever made in the standard cars were TY752vB5BA, TY752vB5CA. and TY754VB1EA...these are MY97-97 Type R /Type RA short ratio boxes and MY99-00 Type RA/S202.
In terms of reliability I've never had any bad experiences with Subaru. I think the only problems are cars that have been poorly modded or poorly mapped. As others have said, a modestly tuned 300-350hp) Type R is a beast on a B road. The combination of light weight, short ratios, traction and power are very difficult to beat. Plus imho, the 2 door GC8 is the nicest Subaru ever made,,
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Originally Posted by funkyrimpler
I was chatting to a very respected tuner the other day and he told me that the strongest 5 speed gear boxes Subaru ever made in the standard cars were TY752vB5BA, TY752vB5CA. and TY754VB1EA...these are MY97-97 Type R /Type RA short ratio boxes and MY99-00 Type RA/S202.
In terms of reliability I've never had any bad experiences with Subaru. I think the only problems are cars that have been poorly modded or poorly mapped. As others have said, a modestly tuned 300-350hp) Type R is a beast on a B road. The combination of light weight, short ratios, traction and power are very difficult to beat. Plus imho, the 2 door GC8 is the nicest Subaru ever made,,
I had a version 6 close ratio box in my lardy newage, ran 355bhp/365ftlbs no problem for a few years then I sold the box to my mate who ran similar power through it for a few years. Awesome feeling box
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Fully agree, heard people say how unreliable they are. The problem is there a high performance car. Most of its life is going to be hard driven. So it needs to be looked after. It's a high stressed engine. I've seen so many abused ones out there.

Non turbo models are abit different as the engines aren't high pressured and stressed with big turbos. Last classic non turbo we bought had 80k on and ran it up to 120k only had few wheel bearings done in bout 3-4 years and servicing.

Bought a newer Vauxhall and spent over £1500 in same amount of time.


Originally Posted by funkyrimpler
I was chatting to a very respected tuner the other day and he told me that the strongest 5 speed gear boxes Subaru ever made in the standard cars were TY752vB5BA, TY752vB5CA. and TY754VB1EA...these are MY97-97 Type R /Type RA short ratio boxes and MY99-00 Type RA/S202.
In terms of reliability I've never had any bad experiences with Subaru. I think the only problems are cars that have been poorly modded or poorly mapped. As others have said, a modestly tuned 300-350hp) Type R is a beast on a B road. The combination of light weight, short ratios, traction and power are very difficult to beat. Plus imho, the 2 door GC8 is the nicest Subaru ever made,,
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I’ve had my version 5 type r for nearly 3 years imported myself had no major issues with it

first job was replace the fluids . Fuel pump and get it mapped on v power. Runs 317 bhp on standard gearbox and it’s been fine
got me to the Nurburgring and back. Just costs a fortune in Petrol with the close ratio box
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Originally Posted by neil97rs
Just costs a fortune in Petrol with the close ratio box

'smiles per gallon'...
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A good condition Type R imported will be north of £10k and as much as the high teens for an exceptional example. Being a three door body panels are a little harder to come by and they still rust like most Subaru's.
Version 6 - VF29
Version 5 - VF28
Version 4 - VF24
MY 97 - VF23
MY 98 WRX Type R V-Ltd - VF22

It maybe a three door chassis but the Type R is the heavier of the GC8 chassis cars. 1240 to 1260 kgs. No big deal but the whole "lightweight" thing is a bit of a misnomer. The DCCD can bite if you have not used a similar system before. Push, Push, Push and snap out.

Find a good one, leave as standard as possible and keep it.

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Thanks for the replies guys ,
I know rust can be an issue that's why I'm going for a fresh jap import as there's less chance of it being a rust bucket.

plans Are to keep it pretty much standard, exhaust and a remap for UK petrol just. Do the v5 and v6s need an aftermarket ecu or can the standard one be mapped?
Old 24 January 2019, 09:33 AM
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Standard ECU can be mapped with EcuTek.
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I've had mine 3 years now, running 315bhp with now issues. First thing I did was get it remapped and removed the pesky maf sensor. Mine is still on the original engine, but I think with any classic impreza these days. If the engine hasn't already been rebuilt, then you are best off factoring that in to the cost of buying one.
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Thanks for the replies folks, glad to hear they're not as bad as some internet rumours would lead you to believe like any performance car it's just down to servicing and maintenance.

Hopefully will get my hands on one in the next few months all being well.
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Originally Posted by The Trooper 1815
A good condition Type R imported will be north of £10k and as much as the high teens for an exceptional example.

Find a good one, leave as standard as possible and keep it.
This. Version V incoming, just waiting for prep now.


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