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Old 28 September 2018, 08:34 AM
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Default Fitting subaru 4 pots to rear of sti v3

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looking at changing brakes on my sti v3 1997 as they are poor.
currently have 4 pots on front (I think) and one pots on rear.

brakes have no progressive feel- I have to stamp in pedal then it tries to bite. Does not stop instantly!

i run standard 16” wheels and looking for most cost effective upgrade.

Has anyone ever put Subaru 4 pots on the rear - rather than upgrading to the two pots?

Would this be a better upgrade than putting good discs and pads in front?

car currently has new icp disks and pads all round and a 5.1 fluid change. My 2006 Mazda 6 brakes feel lightyears ahead of the impreza but runs a third of the power

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Old 28 September 2018, 10:13 AM
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V3 are a nightmare best way is to change the rear hubs to V4 on then the world is your oyster.
Old 28 September 2018, 11:40 AM
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Cheers mate. What are limitations of v3 hubs?
Old 28 September 2018, 11:53 AM
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No limitations their an oddball size f**k all fits them. V4 onwards you can fit brembos as long as wheels fit Subaru 2pot etc etc. If you have DCCD chances are you'll need R180 hubs.
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No dccd mate. Should standard brakes have a progressive feel or a All or nothing feel ?
Old 28 September 2018, 12:01 PM
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Get your brakes refurbished pins are probably seized in the rears and pistons in the front. If you wish to keep it standard that is. There not great but do the job.
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Originally Posted by 1509joe
No limitations their an oddball size f**k all fits them. V4 onwards you can fit brembos as long as wheels fit Subaru 2pot etc etc. If you have DCCD chances are you'll need R180 hubs.
can you expand a bit more please?

I refurbed my front 4 pots but havent touched the rears yet (****in bolt through the hub is a joooooke!)

What are the options with regards to rears? The V3 STI doesnt have DCCD so do all I need is V4 rear hubs and they will bolt straight on?

Tempted to just refurb the rears and see how overall baking is. The fronts are decent.

Cheers,

Ash
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Different mounting points for the calipers if the two of you haven't R180 hubs (DCCD) ring Alyn at AS Performance as I think there is an option for the R160 hubs
Old 28 September 2018, 03:24 PM
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Joe your mixed up slightly, think your getting the V3 R180 STi RA & Type-R hubs / brakes confused with the std STi's, etc. that simply use the common smaller sliding brakes.........
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Originally Posted by stockcar
Joe your mixed up slightly, think your getting the V3 R180 STi RA & Type-R hubs / brakes confused with the std STi's, etc. that simply use the common smaller sliding brakes.........
Thought that hence the reply thought they meant the ra
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Any ideas of who does refurbs on standard brakes and the cost?

Thanks
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We can offer various solutions depending on budget.

Reconditioned rear 1 pot calipers with stainless steel pistons , new seals and nipples , powder coated any colour you want are £195 a pair inc vat.

We could also offer you a complete 2 pot kit with reconditioned 2 pot calipers , larger grooved 290mm discs , pads , and mounting bracket kit for £495 , this kit is a complete bolt on kit

Cheers Ian
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Thank you. Do you take the 1 pot rear callipers for a small discount?
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Also consider a brake stopper,I have one for my v3(not fitted it yet),it's supposed to make the brake feel better by reducing the flex on the firewall
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Originally Posted by mellinator2k
Thank you. Do you take the 1 pot rear callipers for a small discount?
Hi
Sorry should have mentioned , the £195 is on an exchange basis , you can either send yours in and its £195 plus P&P back to you , or we can send you a pair already done , you swap them and send yours back , we take a deposit this way and refund you once we get your old calipers back
Cheers Ian
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Mines the same as your bud, brand new front calipers and same as the old ones, although I've fitted Brembo pads and brakes are the same no progressive feel until you end near the end of the peddle, but then if you hammer your foot down it stops really well.










Originally Posted by mellinator2k
No dccd mate. Should standard brakes have a progressive feel or a All or nothing feel ?

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Originally Posted by Godspeed Brakes
We can offer various solutions depending on budget.

Reconditioned rear 1 pot calipers with stainless steel pistons , new seals and nipples , powder coated any colour you want are £195 a pair inc vat.

We could also offer you a complete 2 pot kit with reconditioned 2 pot calipers , larger grooved 290mm discs , pads , and mounting bracket kit for £495 , this kit is a complete bolt on kit

Cheers Ian
Originally Posted by mellinator2k
Thank you. Do you take the 1 pot rear callipers for a small discount?
Originally Posted by Godspeed Brakes
Hi
Sorry should have mentioned , the £195 is on an exchange basis , you can either send yours in and its £195 plus P&P back to you , or we can send you a pair already done , you swap them and send yours back , we take a deposit this way and refund you once we get your old calipers back
Cheers Ian
Ian, I think he's asking if you'll knock money off the price of the 2 pot set up, if he sends you his, in my opinion worthless, 1 pot rear calipers.

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Originally Posted by jaygsi
Mines the same as your bud, brand new front calipers and same as the old ones, although I've fitted Brembo pads and brakes are the same no progressive feel until you end near the end of the peddle, but then if you hammer your foot down it stops really well.
I don't rate Brembo pads in the slightest. My car stopped better on it's original 2 pot/1pot set up with Pagid pads, than it did with Brembo pads with 4Pot/2pot set up.
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Thanks lads!!
Would a sti v3 have 2 pots up front as standard or 4?
Old 28 September 2018, 11:45 PM
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Originally Posted by mellinator2k
Thanks lads!!
Would a sti v3 have 2 pots up front as standard or 4?
Both, early ones had 2 pots, the later ones had 4 pots - mine has the 4 pots.
Old 29 September 2018, 08:21 AM
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Mine was a march 97 model. I think mine is 4 pot up front as well as can see two circles for piston on front of calliper. Presume back is the same
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As above four pots.
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from the V3 STi> the cars had the Subaru 4pot caliper
Old 29 September 2018, 05:55 PM
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I'm sure they were brembo pads. Not sure what I put on the rear got them done at Demon Tweeks. Stop really well.


Originally Posted by mickywrx
I don't rate Brembo pads in the slightest. My car stopped better on it's original 2 pot/1pot set up with Pagid pads, than it did with Brembo pads with 4Pot/2pot set up.
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Brembo wise the stopping power is greatly effected by the size of the brake servo , i have one set of brembos on an Fsti work ok possibly better on track but greatly improved by eurocarparts 40£ pagid pads which were much better than the ebc red stuff on there before, similar in the stopping department as the standard subaru 4 pot 2 pot set up , second Fsti blow on the pedal and you are kissing the windscreen again pagid pads fitted either car stops well but a lot of difference in it
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I believe that could be due to the red stuff pads being for track use.



Originally Posted by Vxr2010
Brembo wise the stopping power is greatly effected by the size of the brake servo , i have one set of brembos on an Fsti work ok possibly better on track but greatly improved by eurocarparts 40£ pagid pads which were much better than the ebc red stuff on there before, similar in the stopping department as the standard subaru 4 pot 2 pot set up , second Fsti blow on the pedal and you are kissing the windscreen again pagid pads fitted either car stops well but a lot of difference in it
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I think the yellow stuff are more track based , the newer red stuff does not need warming up , but the pagid ones around 40£ or so work very well and cost a lot less , i found the brembo pads a bit lacking in feel, they do a cosworth pad that’s ok too
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