My late fiancée's broken Sport Special.
23 September 2018, 08:10 PM
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My late fiancée's broken Sport Special.
Hi folks,
I'm hoping for some advice re: the title.
Firstly some background info - my Emma was a renal transplant patient for the last 30 odd years of her life and in November 2015 she fell seriously ill and died in the following January from sepsis at the age of 42.
So to the point - for the last 5 years the car has been sorned and is parked off road in a communal "parking bay" big enough for about 6 cars if everyone parks properly. The land doesn't belong to anyone nor the council and a friendly neighbour has parked his sorned car behind the sport special. The car belongs to Emma's "estate" and her father is the sole executor of the estate - even though I did all the associated admin when Emma passed away. He cut off all contact with me after her funeral (understandable, but his choice) so I left it as it was.
I've been slowly removing the modified parts from the car (lots of them) I've got everything off apart from the unequal manifold, full decat section, brakes, wheels and suspension (all upgraded parts).
So what I want to know is can I arrange for the car to be scrapped even though I'm not the registered keeper (its Emma's name on the V5) ?
Any advice would be appreciated,
Thanks in advance,
Andrew.
I'm hoping for some advice re: the title.
Firstly some background info - my Emma was a renal transplant patient for the last 30 odd years of her life and in November 2015 she fell seriously ill and died in the following January from sepsis at the age of 42.
So to the point - for the last 5 years the car has been sorned and is parked off road in a communal "parking bay" big enough for about 6 cars if everyone parks properly. The land doesn't belong to anyone nor the council and a friendly neighbour has parked his sorned car behind the sport special. The car belongs to Emma's "estate" and her father is the sole executor of the estate - even though I did all the associated admin when Emma passed away. He cut off all contact with me after her funeral (understandable, but his choice) so I left it as it was.
I've been slowly removing the modified parts from the car (lots of them) I've got everything off apart from the unequal manifold, full decat section, brakes, wheels and suspension (all upgraded parts).
So what I want to know is can I arrange for the car to be scrapped even though I'm not the registered keeper (its Emma's name on the V5) ?
Any advice would be appreciated,
Thanks in advance,
Andrew.
Last edited by dark_angel; 23 September 2018 at 09:05 PM.
23 September 2018, 09:25 PM
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Hi folks,
I'm hoping for some advice re: the title.
Firstly some background info - my Emma was a renal transplant patient for the last 30 odd years of her life and in November 2015 she fell seriously ill and died in the following January from sepsis at the age of 42.
So to the point - for the last 5 years the car has been sorned and is parked off road in a communal "parking bay" big enough for about 6 cars if everyone parks properly. The land doesn't belong to anyone nor the council and a friendly neighbour has parked his sorned car behind the sport special. The car belongs to Emma's "estate" and her father is the sole executor of the estate - even though I did all the associated admin when Emma passed away. He cut off all contact with me after her funeral (understandable, but his choice) so I left it as it was.
I've been slowly removing the modified parts from the car (lots of them) I've got everything off apart from the unequal manifold, full decat section, brakes, wheels and suspension (all upgraded parts).
So what I want to know is can I arrange for the car to be scrapped even though I'm not the registered keeper (its Emma's name on the V5) ?
Any advice would be appreciated,
Thanks in advance,
Andrew.
I'm hoping for some advice re: the title.
Firstly some background info - my Emma was a renal transplant patient for the last 30 odd years of her life and in November 2015 she fell seriously ill and died in the following January from sepsis at the age of 42.
So to the point - for the last 5 years the car has been sorned and is parked off road in a communal "parking bay" big enough for about 6 cars if everyone parks properly. The land doesn't belong to anyone nor the council and a friendly neighbour has parked his sorned car behind the sport special. The car belongs to Emma's "estate" and her father is the sole executor of the estate - even though I did all the associated admin when Emma passed away. He cut off all contact with me after her funeral (understandable, but his choice) so I left it as it was.
I've been slowly removing the modified parts from the car (lots of them) I've got everything off apart from the unequal manifold, full decat section, brakes, wheels and suspension (all upgraded parts).
So what I want to know is can I arrange for the car to be scrapped even though I'm not the registered keeper (its Emma's name on the V5) ?
Any advice would be appreciated,
Thanks in advance,
Andrew.
23 September 2018, 11:28 PM
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Thanks again.
Andrew.
24 September 2018, 12:12 AM
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You can get it transferred to your ownership with or without the logbook, you need to write a letter to the DVLA explaining the death and then once registered to yourself you can get it scrapped.
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24 September 2018, 10:11 AM
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Sorry for your loss. That's really rough.
One thing I don't understand, if the car belongs to Emma's estate, aren't you effectively nicking the bits you're taking off it?
(I appreciate her father is not contactable, which obviously makes things difficult in that respect.)
One thing I don't understand, if the car belongs to Emma's estate, aren't you effectively nicking the bits you're taking off it?
(I appreciate her father is not contactable, which obviously makes things difficult in that respect.)
24 September 2018, 10:21 AM
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Sorry for your loss. That's really rough.
One thing I don't understand, if the car belongs to Emma's estate, aren't you effectively nicking the bits you're taking off it?
(I appreciate her father is not contactable, which obviously makes things difficult in that respect.)
One thing I don't understand, if the car belongs to Emma's estate, aren't you effectively nicking the bits you're taking off it?
(I appreciate her father is not contactable, which obviously makes things difficult in that respect.)
I have only took off the upgraded parts which I paid for - I have the documents to prove I paid for them. There is still a number of parts that I paid for on the car - all quite major upgrades.
Thanks.
Andrew.
24 September 2018, 10:22 AM
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25 September 2018, 07:07 AM
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Andrew.
Last edited by dark_angel; 25 September 2018 at 07:10 AM. Reason: I'm crap.
25 September 2018, 07:09 AM
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Top advise as usual.
I would like to apologise for any bad feeling and crap comments I've made in the past.
Andrew.
25 September 2018, 10:34 AM
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Surely the V5 just proves who the registered keeper is, not who the owner is?
I'd contact the DVLA and get the registration changed into your name and get it scrapped. Clearly the father has no interest in it and it seems highly unlikely that he's going to suddenly demand the car back, after 5 years of ignoring it. It sounds like he doesn't want anything to remind him of his daughter's loss.
I have a mate who had an Alfa 156 sat outside his house for months. It was just after the New Year Tsunami and he figured maybe the owner had died. He contacted the DVLA and got the V5 transferred into his name. Then armed with the V5, went to Alfa to get a key cut. Got it cleaned up and working and then advertised it for sale. He then got a call from the “owner”, who turned out to be a trader who had his stock parked all around the local residential roads and had forgotten where he’d left the Alfa. A deal was struck to “sell” the V5 back (mate’s expenses plus a sweetener).
So it can be done. I’d contact the DVLA in the first instance. Alternatively, the land where the car is parked HAS to belong to someone. Find out who and then report the car as abandoned and pressure them to deal with it. Or claim the land as your own and start issuing the father parking fines…..
I'd contact the DVLA and get the registration changed into your name and get it scrapped. Clearly the father has no interest in it and it seems highly unlikely that he's going to suddenly demand the car back, after 5 years of ignoring it. It sounds like he doesn't want anything to remind him of his daughter's loss.
I have a mate who had an Alfa 156 sat outside his house for months. It was just after the New Year Tsunami and he figured maybe the owner had died. He contacted the DVLA and got the V5 transferred into his name. Then armed with the V5, went to Alfa to get a key cut. Got it cleaned up and working and then advertised it for sale. He then got a call from the “owner”, who turned out to be a trader who had his stock parked all around the local residential roads and had forgotten where he’d left the Alfa. A deal was struck to “sell” the V5 back (mate’s expenses plus a sweetener).
So it can be done. I’d contact the DVLA in the first instance. Alternatively, the land where the car is parked HAS to belong to someone. Find out who and then report the car as abandoned and pressure them to deal with it. Or claim the land as your own and start issuing the father parking fines…..
26 September 2018, 09:31 PM
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I suppose like with any abandoned car, bits get nicked and nobody knows who, what, where, when, why or how? No face, no case as they say...
Very sorry to hear of your loss and subsequent dilemma mate.
Very sorry to hear of your loss and subsequent dilemma mate.
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27 September 2018, 02:05 PM
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I’ve not read all the post but if you are trying to get ownership of a vehicle , contact the dvla saying it’s abandoned which in effect it is , they will contact the current keeper who ( no disrespect intended ) can’t and won’t respond , they will send you a new v5 out in your name , if no one contests it the car is yours , when you are the new owner the previous owner ( again no disrespect intended ) has a right of civil appeal with in one year , the opening line on a v5 is this is not proof of ownership , the above route is a lawful legal route to obtain a car , i would speak to land owners to make him aware as a matter of courtesy as that is the only twist to the situation but i expect land owner is happy for the car to go too ?
28 September 2018, 07:23 AM
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that's really sad news 
but it also shows you the need to be married in these situations as you have no legal say on any thing relating to Emma
but it also shows you the need to be married in these situations as you have no legal say on any thing relating to Emma
29 September 2018, 08:53 AM
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yes he does, but not being next of kin means he has no say on what happens, it's out Andrew's hand.
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